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The spoiler who could deliver NC Senate seat to Kay Hagan
americanthinker.com ^ | 7/7/14 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 07/07/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by cotton1706

By all rights, the GOP should easily pick up the North Carolina Senate seat currently held by Kay Hagan. Except:

Most evenings, Sean Haugh is a pizza deliveryman.

But every other week or so, the Libertarian Party’s Senate nominee in North Carolina opens a few craft beers on the counter of the bar in his campaign manager’s basement. He takes deep gulps from a pint glass bearing an image of Austrian-school economist Mur­ray Rothbard and expresses his Everyman frustrations with the current political system into a video camera.

So far, Haugh’s campaign barely exists anywhere but on YouTube. But it is doing surprisingly well in a high-stakes Senate contest in which candidates and outside groups have already spent more than $15 million.

Four polls lately put his support somewhere between 8 and 11 percent — not enough to suggest a realistic possibility of winning, but conceivably enough to affect the outcome of the race. The same surveys show the margin between incumbent Democrat Kay Hagan and her GOP challenger, state House Speaker Thom Tillis, at six points or less.

When I see a candidate who claims to be for small government but whose candidacy will hand a Senate seat to someone who will vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader, I see red. It’s time for people to denounce Haugh as the spoiler and egotist he is.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; libtardians
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1 posted on 07/07/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

I’d like to see the money trail between this hack and Hagan’s campaign.


2 posted on 07/07/2014 6:22:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: cotton1706

8-11 percent

Cut that by 3 - most cases people say will vote for 3rd party candidates

When time comes either fail to vote or vote for one of the major party

Lucky if gets more that 3 per assuming doesnt self destreuct as prone to do ........


3 posted on 07/07/2014 6:25:26 AM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: ScottinVA

If the money trail for this guy is anything like the Libertarian Candidate that gave the Virginia Governors race to the Democrat loook for a Soros Connected rich donor from Texas.


4 posted on 07/07/2014 6:36:18 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: cotton1706

Didn’t this guy get the memo that only members of the Washington Uniparty are allowed in the race? How dare this peon run in the race! If he does, it won’t be the GOP stooge’s fault when he loses, it’ll be this guy who just doesn’t know his place. Sheesh! The nerve of some people!


5 posted on 07/07/2014 6:41:17 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: cotton1706
More of the GOP entitlement mindset that those votes are theirs, dammit.

/johnny

6 posted on 07/07/2014 6:44:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ScottinVA

Probably Soreass.


7 posted on 07/07/2014 6:44:36 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: cotton1706

Expect to see Dem money flowing to this guy. When will we learn that the GOP needs to fund Progressive Kooks to run in our elections to split the Dem vote. Fire with Fire. Ya Think?


8 posted on 07/07/2014 6:45:35 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: cotton1706

Libtardians and Demonrats play for the same team, always have and always will.


9 posted on 07/07/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: cotton1706
A Losertarian garnered about 4.5 times the vote difference in the Utah district where future GOP superstar Mia Love (what's not to like about a drop dead gorgeous conservative black lady with a name like Love?) lost to the RAT by a few hundred votes.

Their only difference on issues was legalized pot. Which only confirms my suspicion that Losertarians smoke way too much.

10 posted on 07/07/2014 6:52:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cotton1706

No doubt he’s probably being funded by Soros.


11 posted on 07/07/2014 6:53:53 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: C. Edmund Wright

This just doesn’t pass the ‘smell’ test. This can’t be for real can it? A pizza delivery guy?!


12 posted on 07/07/2014 6:57:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cotton1706

This is bad, but in South Carolina is having a new Independent who is tea party going after Linda Graham so that might allow us to finally get rid of that jerk. Sometimes Independent candidates do help. I continue to thank Nader daily for his contribution to our electing George W. Bush.


13 posted on 07/07/2014 6:59:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Beagle8U
As the GOP continues to attack the base people look elsewhere. The LP is very good at putting people on the ballot. For decades Libertarians voted republican as the lesser of two evils.

Now the republicans openly attack conservatives. If smaller, less intrusive government is the goal, we need people running on small government.

Calling potential allies Libtardians is a great way to make friends and influence people.

14 posted on 07/07/2014 7:00:00 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Servant of the Cross

This just doesn’t pass the ‘smell’ test. This can’t be for real can it? A pizza delivery guy?!

Well in all fairness, we did have our plumber.


15 posted on 07/07/2014 7:02:02 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ScottinVA
I’d like to see the money trail between this hack and Hagan’s campaign.

Doesn't sound like there is one. If his campaign consists of You Tube videos then that's about as bare-bones as you can be.

16 posted on 07/07/2014 7:08:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: njslim
Lucky if gets more that 3 per assuming doesnt self destreuct as prone to do ........

But in a tight race 3 or 4 percent can be the deciding factor. Look at Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Nader took 1.6% of the vote and handed the state, and the presidency, to Bush.

17 posted on 07/07/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

“Calling potential allies Libtardians is a great way to make friends and influence people.”

They are allies of the Demonrats and no one else.

How many Libtardians are there elected to congress, house and senate? Zero?

If they never get elected to anything, what is their purpose?


18 posted on 07/07/2014 7:16:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What would your advice be: Hagan, Tillis, or Haugh? What should conservatives do in cases like this and how does it fit into a strategy for conservatives to gain power in both the Republican Party (or whatever conservative party replaces it) and the national government?


19 posted on 07/07/2014 7:19:00 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You beat me to it...”doing surprisingly well” is media-speak for having just enough money to do events and limited advertising to keep a candidate’s name in front of the voters, and siphon off GOP votes.

Incidentally, that “libertarian” in Virginia is at it again; Robert Sarvis has collected enough signatures to get his name on the Senate ballot in November, along with incumbent ‘rat Mark Warner and GOP challenger Ed Gillespie. Sarvis is listed as an “attorney, businessman and software developer,” but I have yet to see any evidence as to how he supports himself—other than the Soros money machine.


20 posted on 07/07/2014 7:19:00 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Beagle8U
Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson comes to mind. In two terms he vetoed more than 700 bills and saved New Mexico lots of money and grief. He ran as a Republican, but holds many Libertarian views.

Name calling is the tactic of a progressive.

21 posted on 07/07/2014 7:23:48 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Do the initials...’kiss my a$$’ mean anything to you?

He didn’t get elected as a Libtardian, and that wasn’t House or Senate.

You are batting zero, even your straw men are striking out.

What is their purpose?


22 posted on 07/07/2014 7:31:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: cotton1706

Well, I disagree 100% with “Easily” but it is a pickup opportunity. But some number pretty close to 45-49% want Hagen. Add to that that the GOPe is blowing it here and, well . . . this is a 50/50 pickup like the Senate.


23 posted on 07/07/2014 7:31:58 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: cotton1706

Isn’t the real story in this race how bad the GOP-E candidate is doing against Hagen, who I thought was toast.


24 posted on 07/07/2014 7:40:07 AM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: ScottinVA

Got that right, Scott...
I think we’ve seen this movie before....


25 posted on 07/07/2014 7:54:21 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Vigilanteman

So basically if the GOPers had given up on prohibition 2.0 they would have won the election? They must really love the nanny state and jack boots if they are willing to lose elections over them.


26 posted on 07/07/2014 8:13:09 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Beagle8U

Wow. Nice civil chat. Not.


27 posted on 07/07/2014 8:16:54 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Beagle8U
Libtardians..
--Republican Poster-Girl Beagle8U

Reason 843 why Republicans can suck my big ten inch.
(c'mon beagle, get your lips right up against it)

28 posted on 07/07/2014 8:21:41 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: centurion316
The candidate that is anti-abortion, pro-2nd amendment, against amnesty, against large government, and against socialized medicine.

Same as my advice always is.

And if no-one matches that, leave that line blank.

/johnny

29 posted on 07/07/2014 8:40:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I’m not aware that Mrs. Love advocated any jack-booted enforcement of marijuana laws. She was just unwilling to sign on to a petition which would allow potheads to, among other things, cruise the highways and byways stoned as if it were some kind of inalienable right like the 2nd amendment.


30 posted on 07/07/2014 8:52:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
Calling potential allies Libtardians is a great way to make friends and influence people.

Calling libertarians allies is a bigger mistake.

Runt Paul for President! Woo! Woo!


31 posted on 07/07/2014 8:55:07 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: cotton1706

Libertarians are RUINING this country along with the Democrats!!!! Are the Democrats PAYING this creep to run?? PROBABLY!


32 posted on 07/07/2014 8:59:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: laotzu; Beagle8U
Reason 843 why Republicans can suck my big ten inch. (c'mon beagle, get your lips right up against it)

Reason 844 why Conservatives reject Libertarians, they are crude and rude.

Washington State issued their first pot store license today, go there for a friendly chat.

33 posted on 07/07/2014 9:00:59 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: ScottinVA

Just like McAwful.

War on Women
Fund a libertarian to bleed R votes
Win with a Clintonian plurality.

Maybe the Koch Bros need to be sending laundered bucks to all the left wing whacko candidates in close races.


34 posted on 07/07/2014 9:03:34 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: cotton1706
This is why you need a 50%+1 run-off rule.

NC has a 40%+1 rule, which means Kay Hagan can win by splitting the nonliberal vote. She couldn't in a 50%+1 rule.

35 posted on 07/07/2014 9:08:22 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: njslim

In the Indiana senate race in 2012 the libertarian got 5.7%.

“Obama Joe” Donnelly won with the fabled “Clintonian plurality”


36 posted on 07/07/2014 9:11:51 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Vigilanteman

I doubt that a petition was the only factor causing her to lose support of libertarians but rather her (percieved or real) support of the status quo. There is a pot addled basement dweller constituency for Libertarian candidates who care about such petitions but they are votes taken from the Dem candidate. Republicans are losing principled small government libertarians sick of nanny staters on the right as well as the left.


37 posted on 07/07/2014 9:22:13 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: itsahoot
Wait your turn. Give me a chance to wash beagle stank off of it.

May I suggest swat-teaming a baby, or shooting someone's dog in the meantime.

Remember; nice people swallow.

38 posted on 07/07/2014 9:22:29 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: JRandomFreeper

I see that as a way of expressing your sentiments, but not as a way of gaining and exercising political power. If Hagan wins, we lose as she will vote for Reid as leader of the Democrats and may well be the seat that decides the control of the Senate. A vote for Haugh is the same as a blank ballot, neither candidate can win. A vote for Tillis could go either way. He could be a Hagan in trousers with an “R” by his or he could be like many politicians and ride along with the conservative wave.

Conservatives brought this dilemma upon themselves by letting whoever wanted to run go up against Tillis, giving him an unearned run. We have to learn how to cull the herd early so we don’t end up diluting our vote. We also need to learn how to win elections. I don’t see much evidence of that happening.


39 posted on 07/07/2014 9:35:06 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
That's short term thinking. In the long term, if liberal republican can't get elected, they will quit running.

This isn't going to be turned around in one election.

/johnny

40 posted on 07/07/2014 9:42:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ScottinVA
Four polls lately put his support somewhere between 8 and 11 percent

I'm in NC, and I pay attention to politics.

I've never heard of this guy. This article smells trollish. Maybe not the person who posted it....but certainly the author.

41 posted on 07/07/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: cotton1706

3rd parties=Socialism


42 posted on 07/07/2014 10:39:30 AM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: cotton1706
When I see a candidate who claims to be for small government but whose candidacy will hand a Senate seat to someone who will vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader, I see red. It’s time for people to denounce Haugh as the spoiler and egotist he is.

I disagree. Libertarians are not republicans. Republicans aren't even conservatives anymore, so many social conservatives stay away from Republicans. (That will happen in Mississippi.)

Let each man vote the way he sees it. His vote is his vote.

Being really honest: no one knows what the hell the republican party stands for anymore. They do everything from claim conservatives are racist to clamoring for a border fence. When out of power, they talk...and talk...and talk... When in power, they spend...and spend...and spend...

43 posted on 07/07/2014 10:44:01 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

With conservatives deciding to sit on the sidelines, it will be many, many elections before things turn around.


44 posted on 07/07/2014 10:57:23 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
With Republicans turning more and more liberal, there is no-one for conservatives to vote for.

Liberal republicans must be destroyed at the primary or in the general election.

/johnny

45 posted on 07/07/2014 11:29:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jocon307
Isn’t the real story in this race how bad the GOP-E candidate is doing against Hagen, who I thought was toast.

No. It's more fun to attack libertarians than take a look at why your candidate isn't providing people a reason to vote for him.

 

46 posted on 07/07/2014 11:56:42 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: nascarnation

It wasn’t the Libertarian that was the problem, it was the disgruntled Lugarite RINOs who voted for Donnelly.


47 posted on 07/07/2014 12:21:16 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

True to an extent, and Murdoch sh!t in his messkit in the debate.

Bottom line, another lost Senate seat for 6 long years.


48 posted on 07/07/2014 2:04:15 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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