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Chicago: 82 shootings in 84 hours
Chicago Tribune ^ | 08 july 2014

Posted on 07/08/2014 3:18:03 AM PDT by rellimpank

"The solution does not just include policing — although we'll continue to look for ways to put more police where they're needed. We also have to give our young people alternatives to the street, and as a community we need to demand more of ourselves and our neighbors."

— Mayor Rahm Emanuel, on Chicago's blood-soaked Fourth of July weekend

As Sunday night crept (no doubt cautiously) to Monday morning, residents of the South Chicago neighborhood endured a firefight. They witnessed a tide of mayhem worthy of urban war zones worldwide. This is not how Chicago wants to build its reputation as a global city. Imagine the terror of children and adults in homes on those besieged streets:

The Tribune's Peter Nickeas reported from the scene that police officers responding to frequent shootings kept interrupting one another on their radios to report still new bursts of gunfire. So-called weapons wagons — SUVs loaded with lockers of rifles — delivered fresh throw-weight to cops who at times ran down streets toward the percussion of flying bullets. SWAT teams dressed in green walked the streets with regular officers dressed in blue. Overhead, a law enforcement helicopter circled in a futile attempt to quiet the rampage.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; deadfish; rahmemanuel; rkba; takeittothealley; warzone
--well-surprise--not even a call for more "gun control"--
1 posted on 07/08/2014 3:18:03 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

In the ‘60’s we had summer recreation at our elementary school where we practiced Dodge Ball control.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 3:23:18 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: rellimpank

If they’d set up gun ranges the perpetrators would kill more. So we must conclude the authorities are keeping the death count down. /s


4 posted on 07/08/2014 3:32:17 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: rellimpank

As long as they don’t blame it on gang violence, then gangs won’t be the problem.

Now that’s real journalism for you. And real political leadership.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 3:32:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

It’s easy enough to blame it on gangs but, in reality, you can blame it all on decades of democratic party influence. Same as Detroit. This story will be repeated over and over in all the cities that drank the Democrats poison.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 3:36:53 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: rellimpank

They need to call up the National Guard like they do when there are riots. This apparently is too much for the local cops to handle.

I wonder how this plays to the rest of the world?


7 posted on 07/08/2014 3:37:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: RC one

The dem policies produced the gangs, it’s true. They made a hopeless commieland ghetto plantation wasteland that is fertile ground for gangs to grow in.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 3:38:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: rellimpank

gangland...this is what community action will get you Mr. Obama.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 3:46:42 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: hoosiermama

“So we must conclude the authorities are keeping the death count down. /s”

Yes; these aren’t “lives lost” - this is a story of all the other lives saved...


10 posted on 07/08/2014 3:46:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: rellimpank
This has to all be an elaborate lie. Inventor of the Internet, AlGore solved the problem of violence in cities like Chicago with the "Midnight Basketball" program.

(/sarc if it's needed)

11 posted on 07/08/2014 3:57:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: samtheman

The community 0 organized was control by a Muslim street gang that was founded by a Mexican drug cartel. The were also involved in murder for hire, male and female prostitution and domestic terrorism/gun running funded by Kadaffi
Jesse Robinson Jackson’s half bro is doing life for his involvment. (That’s Robinson as in MO— She wore the gang colors to several inaugural events)
Reports were they were all close until Noah’s arrest
More information linked starting here: 749 begins research in earnest.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151323/posts?q=1&;page=741


12 posted on 07/08/2014 4:06:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: rellimpank
"The solution does not just include policing — although we'll continue to look for ways to put more police where they're needed. We also have to give our young people alternatives to the street, and as a community we need to demand more of ourselves and our neighbors."

In a nutshell, this shows the lunacy of liberal "problem solving"; do more of what has not worked. This problem has a deep underlying psychology which highlights the difference between liberal and conservative philosophy. Conservatives believe in the individual and individual responsibility with primary regulation being self-regulation of behavior. Liberals believe in the group and controlling people thru external regulation. No amount of policing can make up for a lack of self-control and personal responsibility in individuals.

13 posted on 07/08/2014 4:11:19 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: rellimpank

Not impressed. They couldn’t get 84 in 84 hours. Big time fail..../sarc.


14 posted on 07/08/2014 4:11:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rellimpank
as a community we need to demand more of ourselves

Chicago is not a community. The use of the pronoun "we" by Mayor Rahm is inapropos, unless HIS community is shooting up the streets, which is unlikely.

Demanding more of the community in question, while an excellent idea, has no practical application in the US political world post-1964.

The only thing peaceful Chicagoans need to demand are moving trucks.

15 posted on 07/08/2014 4:17:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: rellimpank
not even a call for more "gun control"--

Not true - I saw an article where some dipsh!t in the Chicago government was doing just that. It's liberal logic. When something fails or has the opposite effect that was advertised, then you don't do something else or, horrors, admit you're wrong, you double down on the failed policy. (I know it it's stupid, but it makes sense to liberals)

16 posted on 07/08/2014 4:18:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: dalebert
gangland...this is what community action will get you Mr. Obama.

Aren't gang leaders "community organizers?"

17 posted on 07/08/2014 4:19:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

See 12

It’s the vetting the national media ignores


18 posted on 07/08/2014 4:23:38 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: rellimpank

“We can empathize with police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, who on Monday questioned whether a “fatigue factor” among officers contributed to the carnage. “

Blame the police officers - lets not hold accountable the street thugs - low educated - drop outs... no no no...let’s not blame the very people that put Obama into office several times....geez...


19 posted on 07/08/2014 4:26:22 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: rellimpank

“Michelle Obama: For us, it’s the values. The thing that we try to do is make sure — the residence is on the second and the third floor of the White House. And what we want to have happen is when they get off that elevator and walk in to our residence that it feels like the south side of Chicago, the same values, the same rules, the same sense of responsibility”

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/20/michelle_obama_we_teach_our_kids_south_chicago_values.html


20 posted on 07/08/2014 4:28:49 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: rellimpank

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/


21 posted on 07/08/2014 4:31:49 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: rellimpank

So they try to take guns away from the normal, non-violent people, and leave them in the hands of the violent criminals.


22 posted on 07/08/2014 4:34:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: BCW

“Blame the police officers - lets not hold accountable the street thugs - low educated - drop outs... no no no...let’s not blame the very people that put Obama into office several times....geez...”

The cops aren’t going to risk their lives, jobs, and pensions for this vermin. When NJ police were censured for their (very effective) police work along the New Jersey Turnpike years ago (which was misrepresented as simply a racial issue rather than sound, proven police tactics), they simply stood down and let the flow of drugs and guns proceed northward to the NYC metro area (which includes Newark, NJ). Those cities immediately reported sharp increases in gun crimes that haven’t slowed yet.

Cops now make accident reports, and at the end of the day they go home to their loved ones. The ethnic malcontents got what they wanted (and then some).


23 posted on 07/08/2014 4:37:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: rellimpank

I guess midnight basketball was a failure.


24 posted on 07/08/2014 4:39:53 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: kearnyirish2

which is why I left LE for good - it’s not worth it!


25 posted on 07/08/2014 4:42:19 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: BCW

“which is why I left LE for good - it’s not worth it!”

In my area most stuck with it; they just don’t risk anything anymore. It is extremely lucrative pay, many of them aren’t really qualified to do anything else (often getting the easiest associates degrees possible just to get the jobs), and the cost of living here is high. As we’ve started laying off cops due to budget issues, those who are laid off often have to leave the area for work; the economic stagnation here is long-term (in part due to the government workers who survive layoffs, as well as the retirement packages of previous cops), and other parts of the country are willing to hire officers who have already been through the academy.


26 posted on 07/08/2014 4:48:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: hoosiermama
Here's a great FR article from over the weekend. Read the accompanying article from chicagomag.com. I have to admit, I was even believing the murder numbers were coming down in Chicago. What's the old saying..."lies, damn lies and statistics"?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3176235/posts

27 posted on 07/08/2014 4:49:21 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

Will as to the Chicago crime thread


28 posted on 07/08/2014 4:52:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: rellimpank

Looks like another Democrat mess. They create welfare, food stamps, etc. and keep minorities subservient, living in the hood with no hope for a better life, waiting for the gub’ment check (in exchange for the vote). The only way out is through crime and drugs. Democrats have treated minorities as second-class citizens for years. Too bad most blacks haven’t figured that out.


29 posted on 07/08/2014 4:53:22 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: rellimpank
Have they tried Midnight Basketball? The city could probably also scam out some federal money for that one as well.

It would be a win-win!

30 posted on 07/08/2014 4:55:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: rellimpank

In the early 60’s my dad used to purchase surplus WWII guns from a store in Alexandria, VA. No prior approval, no background check. Just send in your money and the gun, even a handgun, was mailed to you. So we changed the law and made guns harder to get and we now have more shootings. Seems to me politicians should be looking at the real causes of society’s ills: like a lack of jobs, common language, pockets of poverty and crime, excess leisure time giving rise to crime thanks to an overly generous welfare system, etc.


31 posted on 07/08/2014 5:03:12 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: rellimpank

“—well-surprise—not even a call for more “gun control”—”

Really?

Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy calls for tougher gun laws
Jonn Lilyea | July 7, 2014

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=53407&cpage=1

July 7, 2014
Chicago must pay legal fees in gun store lawsuit

ISRA Press Release:
Unfair Actions Against Firearm Retailers Prove Expensive To Municipalities

CHICAGO, July 5, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

Municipalities planning to inhibit the lawful commerce in firearms, ammunition and accessories had better think twice in light of a ruling against the City of Chicago handed down by a federal judge last Thursday. In that ruling, the judge ordered Chicago to reimburse nearly $1 million in legal fees to plaintiffs in a lawsuit decided against the city in 2010. The case in question struck down the city’s ban on the operation of gun shops and target ranges within city limits.

The judge’s decision to award reimbursement of legal fees in the Chicago case comes just days before the Niles, Illinois Village Council will rule on whether to approve a proposal to establish and operate a gun shop and target range in the village’s industrial area. The village zoning board had earlier approved the proposal but pressure from a New York City based gun control group caused the Village Council to reconsider the proposal. The full Niles Village Council will take the matter up on Monday, July 7th.

“Bans on gun shops and ranges will prove to be expensive propositions for municipalities,” said ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. “Gun control groups ride into town and bully public officials into passing unconstitutional ordinances then quickly leave town before the legal trouble begins. When the smoke clears, the municipality is left footing the bill and the gun controllers are nowhere to be seen.”

“The Niles Village Council should ponder well Chicago’s experience,” continued Pearson. “Jeopardizing the village’s bank balance so that some out-of-state gun control group can put a mark on the wall is not good public policy. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel could have patched a lot of potholes with the million bucks he has to pay out.”

The ISRA is the state’s leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. For more than a century, the ISRA has represented the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.

This press release was issued on PRNewswire. (external link)

Posted Sat Jul 5 10:32:40 CDT 2014

http://www.isra.org/


32 posted on 07/08/2014 5:20:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rellimpank
“...We also have to give our young people alternatives to the street, and as a community we need to demand more of ourselves and our neighbors.”

Explain to me what those alternatives might be, Rahm, and how the administration you helped bring to the White House is addressing this? Do you think it's ‘boredom’ that leads to this? When youth grow up with no respect for human life - including their own, there is something very, very wrong - and it's not just the lack of ‘alternatives’.

33 posted on 07/08/2014 5:35:18 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Less than one per hour. Progress?


34 posted on 07/08/2014 6:04:37 AM PDT by mykroar (This is an insult to the nation's intelligence and these days, that isn't easy.)
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To: hoosiermama

Save


35 posted on 07/08/2014 6:11:47 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: rellimpank

A great paragraph from the article:

“The easy diagnosis, in many Chicagoans’ eyes, is that the Chicago Police Department needs more officers. Maybe so. But that’s asking for more dollars from a City Hall that is drowning in debt after decades in which politicians spent money Chicago couldn’t realistically anticipate as revenue on costly obligations Chicago couldn’t afford. Whatever it took to get re-elected. Thursday’s decision from the Illinois Supreme Court — a ruling that retiree benefits promised by the pols are sacrosanct — suggests that the city may have to slash policing and other services before it ever can dream of hiring more cops.”

It’s hard to believe that was in the Tribune. Chicago’s bankruptcy will make Detroit’s failure look good.


36 posted on 07/08/2014 6:12:40 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: from occupied ga

they certainly are...they organize to their profit. just like Obama


37 posted on 07/08/2014 6:52:11 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: rellimpank

This doesn’t even scratch the surface. ...the 40 person brawl at Navy Pier...the fist fights in Wriglyville. ..the fighting at North Avenue beach...not just blacks either. I was was on LaSalle and Division around midnight and it was chaos.


38 posted on 07/08/2014 9:24:04 PM PDT by Blackirish
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