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Only 47.7% of adult Americans are working full time, This is a huge problem
Against Crony Capitalism ^ | 7/7/2014 | Nick Sorrentino

Posted on 07/08/2014 4:20:59 AM PDT by markomalley

When everyone checks out of the labor market the unemployment rate goes down. It’s not unlike the management of “medical populations” we reported on over the weekend. If enough sick people die the overall population becomes healthier.

The truth is many people are scraping by. People are going into debt to buy food. Those who don’t have access to credit at all are often on food stamps, roughly 46 million Americans. Millions of people have pursued disability benefits as a way to make ends meet. Overall wages have been declining in a serious way since 2008 when adjusted for inflation. The average American household brings in 7% less in real terms than it did 6 years ago. Many recent college graduates still can’t find jobs. Those who do are often underemployed. A good number of these former students are also carrying tens of thousands in student debt.

But the stock market is going up. So everything is cool right?

Wrong. Big time wrong.

The markets are a valve for the easy money produced by the Federal Reserve. The perception is that even if all hell were to break loose the Fed wouldn’t let the stock market crash completely (assuming it still has the power to stop a crash). So those who have access to the easy money put their money in equities. It’s a way better bet than putting money into capital equipment for example – which would create real jobs – but which is much more exposed to any economic downturn.

No, much better screw around in the markets. Let the government (funded by taxpayers) throw some crumbs to the peasants and keep all that easy money where it can be protected, the stock market.

The truth is the people who run the show don’t really care about jobs so long as the malcontents can be salved with the welfare state. They, both Republicans and Democrats, just want to see their portfolios expand.

(From Real Clear Markets)

The data suggest a permanent rise in the number of Americans who expect to be supported by either family members or the government. Policy makers probably should put more effort into determining how the nation can afford all these millions of new non-workers. Entitlement reform and personal financial responsibility appear to be high priorities if our future is to be secured.

If you want a simple, clear explanation of why so many people seem to be struggling financially even if they have jobs, these numbers provide a pretty good answer. Each worker has to support more people than they used to: through taxes to fund welfare and entitlement programs or in their families where perhaps only one spouse is working, unemployed grown children have returned home, or elderly parents need financial support.

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1 posted on 07/08/2014 4:20:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
I read these articles but try to balance them with what I observe. And what I observe is this: There are still traffic jams going to and from work. There are strips of malls and casual eating joints around where I live and work and they are slammed just about every night. You can't even get a table on a Friday night without an hour wait. And I'm talking places like Longhorns, Olive Garden or Red Lobster, where it will cost over $100 easy to take a family of four to dinner.

Makes me wonder, if things are this busy now, imagine how it will be should we ever get full employment again? I still have a 2-hour commute sometimes to go 25 miles and during the go-go 1980s, I never had much trouble getting a table at a restaurant if I wanted to go out to eat.

I'm in process of relocating to southern CT and the housing prices are insane. I'm talking half a million dollars just to get a basic home. Yet somehow they are finding people to pay these prices - otherwise they would come tumbling down.

I'm not saying people are not having a tough time of it but is it really as doom and gloom as some of us are making it out to be?

2 posted on 07/08/2014 4:28:58 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: markomalley

“But the stock market is going up. So everything is cool right?”

At this point the performance of the stock market is inversely related to the well-being of American workers; the surest way to drive up a stock’s price is to announce layoffs in the US. The reduced forecasted costs drive up the profitability of the company.


3 posted on 07/08/2014 4:30:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

And the other 52.3% vote.


4 posted on 07/08/2014 4:35:30 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: SamAdams76
I drive for a living and I see the same as you do, Sam. Then I remember, I'm in the Retirement State (Florida). All of the vehicles I see in the packed restaurant parking lots are nice, fairly new (or new) cars: retirees.

Most of the people I know working part-time, low-wage jobs do not go out except for very special occasions. And their cars are older. The retirees are keeping this mid-Florida area going.

Also, the only restaurant to build another store in this area is Chili's. There is only one Olive Garden, Outback, Carrabba's, Red Lobster, etc. and they have all been here for years. Yes, they're packed on weekends and most nights, but if so, why not build more stores? IDK.

5 posted on 07/08/2014 4:38:58 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: markomalley

47%, There it is again. Mitt is starting to sound prophetic.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 4:42:55 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: SamAdams76
Read kearnyirish2's comment after yours. The main st economy is crap and has been going down hill since the 60's with a brief interlude under Reagan. What you are looking at, housing in southern CT, is the Wall St economy. Massachusetts also has a lot of that along with defense work which still has a big spigot turned most of the way on.

The difference is rather simple, on Main St people rely on lasting value in the dollar and employment in production rather than services. Sure there are always services but they are not the mainstay of Main Street. On Wall St they rely on the debasement of the dollar, every single investor on Wall St makes money when the dollar is bebased, although some more than others. That debasement kills investment on Main St by mortgaging our future during each boom and bust. Meanwhile Wall St outsources all the production to China.

7 posted on 07/08/2014 4:52:04 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: markomalley

Everyone across the board needs to reject this bogus DOL “unemployment rate”. Because of all the meddling and trickery with how unemployment is counted, it’s high time to demand that the only acceptable metric is SELF-EMPLOYED/EMPLOYED ADULTS WORKING 40 HOURS A WEEK OR MORE AND PAYING INCOME AND SS TAXES.

We need to count the makers, the creators, the productive... and we need to let the takers, the destroyers, the parasites STARVE.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 5:18:21 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: markomalley

How many of that 47 percent employed are federal, state, county and city employees?


9 posted on 07/08/2014 5:32:50 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SamAdams76
Pay attention to the number of occupants in each car during rush hour. Here in the Denver area the early morning commute is way less traffic than 2007. But the evening rush is far more crowded than 2007. The cars in the evening rush are full of people, not single occupant commuters.

These are people on unemployment or welfare, driving on gas paid for with an EBT card. Where does a mid 20's person get the money for an Escalade with eight grand worth of 22" wheels? From the taxpayer. The same place they get their food and housing.

10 posted on 07/08/2014 5:45:09 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: markomalley

America imports far too much crap from elsewhere, particularly from China.

America really, really needs to bring back manufacturing.


11 posted on 07/08/2014 5:48:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: markomalley

Food has gone through the roof.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 5:56:18 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: SamAdams76

It must be your area. Last SUNDAY our Applebees had two customers the whole day. Or two tables I should say.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 5:57:47 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Sooner or later, there will no longer BE money to support the welfare program handouts as fewer and fewer people pay taxes. Perhaps it would be best if the entire nation decided to NOT PAY ANY taxes and shut the whole damn train wreck down.


14 posted on 07/08/2014 6:00:12 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SamAdams76
"I read these articles but try to balance them with what I observe. And what I observe is this: There are still traffic jams going to and from work. There are strips of malls and casual eating joints around where I live and work and they are slammed just about every night. You can't even get a table on a Friday night without an hour wait. And I'm talking places like Longhorns, Olive Garden or Red Lobster, where it will cost over $100 easy to take a family of four to dinner."

There are a quite a few people that I've become aware of that have been living in their house for a couple years, but not paying on their mortgage. I attribute the above to this phenomenon. But I hear ya re: the restaurants...I wonder where all that money is coming from sometimes. There is a Portillos in my area with a drive thru...its ALWAYS packed with cars. I sometimes wonder if they are secretly accepting EBT cards.

15 posted on 07/08/2014 6:48:49 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Economy says: White House worse than expected.)
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To: markomalley

There was this hippie looking dude in the Post Office yesterday, loud. Asking if all his social security paperwork was ok in one box (mid 40’s, healthy)

The guy at the counter assured him it was fine. The guy turns to the line on the way out, “I hate the friggin’ government’.

If they can get social security disability and smoke pot all day, why work?


16 posted on 07/08/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: markomalley

The government manipulation of numbers is a shame and proves how corrupt the government is. I came across an older quarter today and it reminded me how our money was recently full silver. The debasement of our currency is another indication of corruption. Corruption and tyranny go hand in hand.


17 posted on 07/08/2014 7:16:03 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America really, really needs to bring back manufacturing.

How?

18 posted on 07/08/2014 7:39:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus; SamAdams76

Official statistics would only encapsulate official employment. Unofficial employment...not so much.

Look at it this way: dear leader has done an awesome job growing the economy. The shadow economy that is.


19 posted on 07/08/2014 8:58:19 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
But I hear ya re: the restaurants...I wonder where all that money is coming from sometimes

From what I've read and seen the economy still stinks in many areas of the country. However, that doesn't mean all economic activity has stopped in those areas. Let say you live in area where wages have stagnated. People might give up expensive hobbies and activities in order to maintain their regular lifestyle like going out to eat.

20 posted on 07/08/2014 9:16:56 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: DaveA37
Sooner or later, there will no longer BE money to support the welfare program handouts as fewer and fewer people pay taxes.

That's old-style thinking. They borrow and print to fund programs now. All governments do. True, the cycle has to end at some point but it hasn't yet.

21 posted on 07/08/2014 9:36:10 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Kenny
(mid 40’s, healthy)

Did you do a full workup with chart history, labs and physical? If not, how did you determine he is healthy?

Most medical conditions, even serious ones, do not present so conspicuously that a casual observer would know what was wrong. Being able to walk and talk does not necessarily give one a clean bill of health.

22 posted on 07/08/2014 9:42:22 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Guess I just assumed he was scamming the system since I know four people in my small circle who received ssa disability even though they were as healthy as me.


23 posted on 07/08/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: steve86
Yep, I became one of them. I started my social security, and am not working much if at all. Husband will work for another 18 months, part-time, then will retire again and draw ss. What is going to happen when all of us baby boomers drop out of the work force? Who is left to support us?(sarcasm)
24 posted on 07/08/2014 9:59:30 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home.....)
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To: OneWingedShark

Could relate to your list, possibly.


25 posted on 07/08/2014 10:50:10 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SamAdams76

“I’m not saying people are not having a tough time of it but is it really as doom and gloom as some of us are making it out to be? “

People thought everything was great before the crash of 2008 too. Running up credit card bills, refinancing houses, etc. to fund a lifestyle they were not earning.


26 posted on 07/08/2014 10:52:23 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: DaveA37

“Perhaps it would be best if the entire nation decided to NOT PAY ANY taxes and shut the whole damn train wreck down.”

I’m doing exactly that next year! Hubby will retire early, at forty-nine, and we will buy some rural property in liver self-sufficient lifestyle. And I’m keeping my income at $20k, so between personal exemptions and the standard deduction, my taxable will be near zero.

I encourage everyone to figure out a way to join us!


27 posted on 07/08/2014 10:56:02 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..

CWII Spark — Lack of work, due to government meddling, combined with confiscatory taxes is a real recipe for civil unrest.


28 posted on 07/08/2014 1:50:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

There’s jobs here, folks.

http://www.indeed.com/l-Lewisville,-TX-jobs.html

http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=76208&rs=1&fromage=last


29 posted on 07/08/2014 1:52:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: SamAdams76
I thought about this and came to a conclusion: We measure horrible economic times by comparing them to images of the great depression. But I'll bet that these images were only the worst of the worst. Unemployment was at 25% but there was nobody (At least not for while) feeding off the teat of government. That means 3/4 of Americans were working and were relatively well off....or at least able to have food and shelter.

The media today is shielding us from seeing the "worst of the worst". I've noticed a definite increase in my well to do area of beggers on the corners. They were never there during gwb times..but now they're a fixture. But the media will never focus on them.

30 posted on 07/08/2014 1:59:46 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

The only reason things don’t look horrible today is that the govt is using 40% fake money to fund entitlements.
When that goes away, as it inevitably must, the real trouble will be evident.


31 posted on 07/08/2014 2:01:44 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SamAdams76

Maybe you are seeing such traffic because most people work two jobs so they travel between them. Plus, they take anything they can get so that means travelling when before they weren’t so desperate as to travel so much.


32 posted on 07/08/2014 2:04:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: expat_panama

Ping-a-Ling!!!


33 posted on 07/08/2014 2:08:48 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

These are people on unemployment or welfare, driving on gas paid for with an EBT card.


I know little of how EBT cards work but I find it hard to believe people can purchase gas with one. How does that work?


34 posted on 07/08/2014 2:54:33 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata
Go to the grocery store. Imagine the money you just spent went back in your wallet because the taxpayer paid the bill.

There was an article in Denver media about an ATM in a retail pot shop that accepted EBT cards. Strip clubs have ATM machines that accept EBT cards.

I implied that the card worked in the gas pump. It does not. My bad.

35 posted on 07/08/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SamAdams76

Wonder what the number of restaurants both chain and single ones, that were in business in ‘07 compared to now?

I have never seen the level of fear people have about losing their job as I do now.

My rose colored glasses stopped working a long time ago.


36 posted on 07/08/2014 3:25:52 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

The government and media praised the replacement of 500,000 full time jobs with 700,000 part time jobs.


37 posted on 07/08/2014 3:28:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Don’t you know that working part time gives you the time to let your artistic side bloom? Don’t you listen to Nancy? I have taken up making corn shuck dolls as one of our governors recommended out of work coal miners should do in the Carter years. Wish I could afford to buy corn so I could get the shucks, I just know I am another Grandmaw Moses in the making.


38 posted on 07/08/2014 3:38:08 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

lol.


39 posted on 07/08/2014 3:39:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Thanks for the clarification.


40 posted on 07/08/2014 4:03:02 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: markomalley; pallis; lee martell; Chgogal
Only 47.7% of adult Americans are working full time, This is a huge problem

47%, There it is again. Mitt is starting to sound prophetic.

How many of that 47 percent employed are federal, state, county and city employees?


Huh, some how that 47.7% number snuck in under the radar, it'd be interesting to know where it came from.  It's not in the article-

--but it's in the BLS numbers...

41 posted on 07/08/2014 6:41:45 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: SamAdams76
I'm in process of relocating to southern CT ...

Connecticut ain't big enough to have a southern part. ;-)

42 posted on 07/09/2014 5:43:26 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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