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Fed up: Anger rising across America
Fox ^ | 7/7/14 | K.T. McFarland

Posted on 07/08/2014 4:59:07 AM PDT by workerbee

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To: ripley

Rather, we are badly divided as a country.


41 posted on 07/08/2014 8:27:56 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: madprof98
the only possible solution is dissolution of the country.

Please elaborate. What exactly do you mean, and what would it solve?

42 posted on 07/08/2014 8:45:52 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: maine yankee
Every day I’m more convinced ALL elections are rigged.

Welcome, you are not alone.

If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

Mark Twain -


43 posted on 07/08/2014 8:46:06 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: workerbee

It’s how Che, Fidel, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. all got their start.

Promise to take from the evil rich and give to the virtuous poor.

After all has gone to hell in a handbasket, rev up the storm troopers, snitchers, and internment camps.


44 posted on 07/08/2014 8:48:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: defconw

In 1775 we didn’t have peaceful, constitutional means to press our demands to the rights of Englishmen.

The Framers gave us Article V to address the current crisis, to reestablish republican freedom.


45 posted on 07/08/2014 8:50:40 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: Jacquerie
Dude, the Constitution is so 238 plus years ago. ;)

Sorry couldn't resist.

46 posted on 07/08/2014 8:55:25 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Jacquerie
I do not believe that Article V was the intended remedy. Indeed, the present unrestricted suffrage, with enough bribed voters, to block anything worthwhile, practically eliminates anything even mildly constructive, coming out of one of the Amendment processes, at this time.

America's Founding Fathers would never have imagined that things would drift to this point, without a complete upheaval and new start.

William Flax

47 posted on 07/08/2014 9:10:00 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: maine yankee
Every day I’m more convinced ALL elections are rigged.

I absolutely believe that for national offices.

48 posted on 07/08/2014 9:28:20 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: liberalh8ter
I think we need to starve the beast.

I don't know that there's a viable way to do that.

49 posted on 07/08/2014 9:29:07 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks, I’ll be checking out your links.


50 posted on 07/08/2014 9:29:50 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Biggirl

“Rather, we are badly divided as a country.”

Totally by design.

Insidious Progressive indoctrination has taken its toll and the international Progressive movement is on the march.

IMHO


51 posted on 07/08/2014 9:32:36 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Jacquerie

It’s hard to not be pessimistic — doesn’t everything the Framers left us for peaceful resolution rely on the understanding of, and commitment to, following the rules as laid out?


52 posted on 07/08/2014 9:33:27 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: ripley

.....And it will come back to haunt the progressives bigtime.


53 posted on 07/08/2014 9:34:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: workerbee
I know...I've been struggling with this equation for years.
54 posted on 07/08/2014 9:37:03 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: workerbee; defconw
Neither the Framers, nor attendees to the various state ratification conventions ever thought of relying on the good nature of those we elect. This concept is fundamental to understanding the constitution of 1787.

What promoted republican freedom was the division of power, of which first and foremost was the vertical division, that between the states and the government they created.

The 17th Amendment pulled the keystone from the arch of American freedom. Overnight, all constitutional powers devolved to one president, 535 popularly elected members of congress and nine blackrobes.

Absent the states in the senate, no force was present to secure the 9th and 10th amendments.

The convulsions of 2014 can be traced to the snake oil of democracy which the Left sold an unwitting nation in 1913.

In short, the 17th denied the states their legitimate and necessary place in our government. It denied them consent of the governed, and our republic is paying dearly for that mistake.

The 17th Amendment and Consent of the Governed.

55 posted on 07/08/2014 10:12:22 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: Biggirl

“And it will come back to haunt the progressives bigtime.”

Please explain that delightful scenario.

Thanks.

IMHO


56 posted on 07/08/2014 10:17:24 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Ohioan

The Framers were quite familiar with wild democratic state assemblies, yet left elector qualifications to the federal House of Reps up to the states. In 1787, northeastern states were moving toward universal white, free suffrage, less so as one moved south.

The key to keeping a lid on the expected democratic mob was a Senate of the States.

The system worked. It kept the genie of democratic tyranny, mob rule in her bottle.


57 posted on 07/08/2014 10:23:14 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: workerbee

I would have to disagree with the article and say that we are almost at the boiling point. This situation will not be resolved at the ballot box.


58 posted on 07/08/2014 1:57:43 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: painter
Tojo gave us Pearl harbor and got ‘A day that will live in infamy.’ AQ gave us 9-11 and G W Bush gave us ‘A religion of peace.’ What does one expect with semi-Quislings at the top sounding a very uncertain trumpet.
59 posted on 07/08/2014 7:43:24 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: MrB
‘My libinlaw once stated that “60% of the people are too dumb to make their own decisions”.’

Was this person a school teacher or educrat or some other form of government employee. Government types certainly believe that because the programs they administer are such Rube Goldberg structures that they can't explain them to any normal taxpayer and get very angry and defensive that the taxpayers don't have a properly respectful attitude towards the administrative class.

60 posted on 07/08/2014 7:46:24 PM PDT by robowombat
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