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Legal Marijuana Goes on Sale in Washington
CNS News ^ | July 8 2014 | GENE JOHNSON

Posted on 07/08/2014 11:00:17 AM PDT by PoloSec

BELLINGHAM, Wash. (AP) — Washington on Tuesday became the second state to allow people to buy marijuana legally in the U.S. without a doctor's note as eager customers who lined up outside stores made their purchases and savored the moment.

People began buying marijuana at 8 a.m. at Top Shelf Cannabis, one of two Bellingham stores that started selling the drug as soon as it was allowed under state regulations. Several dozen people waited outside before the doors opened at the shop in this liberal college town of about 80,000 north of Seattle.

The first three customers in line were residents of Kansas, in Bellingham for their grandfather's 84th birthday. Sarah Gorton, 24, of Abilene, Kansas, came with her younger brother Robbie, as well as her boyfriend.

"It's just a happy coincidence and an opportunity we're not going to have for a long time," said Sarah Gorton, a 24-year-old with dreadlocks and homemade jewelry. "I'm really thrilled to be a part of something that I never thought would happen."

Gorton's boyfriend, 29-year-old Cale Holdsworth, made the first purchase: two grams of pot for $26.50. As customers applauded, he held his brown bag aloft and said, "This is a great moment."

The start of legal pot sales in Washington marks a major step that's been 20 months in the making.

Washington and Colorado stunned much of the world by voting in November 2012 to legalize marijuana for adults over 21, and to create state-licensed systems for growing, selling and taxing the pot. Sales began in Colorado on Jan. 1.

Washington issued its first 24 retail licenses Monday. An Associated Press survey of the licensees showed only about six planned to open Tuesday: two in Bellingham, one in Seattle, one in Spokane, one in Prosser and one in Kelso.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; wod
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1 posted on 07/08/2014 11:00:17 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

They will all soon have the IQ of Spiccoli, if not already.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 11:07:08 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Already there...why else would these idiots in my home state make it legal?


3 posted on 07/08/2014 11:09:46 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

Just another reason I left Seattle (after 45 years) in 2011.

How’s that big dig west going. :-D


4 posted on 07/08/2014 11:12:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

http://www.livescience.com/26247-does-pot-lower-iq.html

Still a real bad idea for adolescents to us MJ, causal effect on IQ or not.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 11:13:51 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: cuban leaf

I felt like leaving WA after queer marriage was legalized, but since then one state after another has gone down due to liberal judicial activism anyway.

Legal MJ doesn’t bother me, but I recognize that chronic use and adolescent use is a really bad thing.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 11:19:24 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Just Lori; Libertina; Publius; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping


Uhhh, like PING, or whatever.

7 posted on 07/08/2014 11:20:11 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: PoloSec

If adults decide to smoke something that grows out of the ground (like tobacco) why shouldn’t they? It’s not processed like alcohol or other hard drugs, a bud is clipped off a plant, dried and lit up - what’s your problem? God grew it, I smoke it, and that settles it. William F. Buckley was a toker and it didn’t seem to affect his intellect.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 11:21:10 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: steve86

It is not the judges decisions that bother me. They do what they do. But when the people of the state do it, that is different.

I left Seattle for two reasons: Politics and traffic.

We voted to build the kingdome by Southcenter. It went to Dearborne. We voted to not build Safeco Field, so they built it anyway.

To be fair, being in commercial real estate in Seattle in the early 80’s I was exposed to so much cronie politics that it turned my stomach.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 11:22:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
I left Seattle for two reasons: Politics and traffic.

We really don't have those local issues in SE WA so I guess I'll stay put.

10 posted on 07/08/2014 11:28:21 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: PoloSec

As opposed to legal alcohol which is good for you. Never caused a problem.


11 posted on 07/08/2014 11:29:15 AM PDT by jrg907
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To: PoloSec

A victory for states’ rights & the free market.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 11:33:35 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: steve86

Yeah. Spent a fair amount of time in Dayton and Moses Lake...

I just wanted more of a change and I really like green.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 11:34:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: dainbramaged
If adults decide to smoke something that grows out of the ground (like tobacco)

I'm not completely comfortable with that argument due to plants like opium (poppies), coca, really intoxicating mushrooms, etc. With the first two, the temptation to process/refine is great due to tolerance effects. That's not so much the case with cannabis, fortunately.

14 posted on 07/08/2014 11:35:54 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: cuban leaf
I really like green.

Well, then you'd like our new pot store in Prosser!

15 posted on 07/08/2014 11:36:54 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Resolute Conservative

And will vote en masse for Dems.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 11:43:08 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Why? Some day I might purchase a small amount of MJ but I certainly won’t be voting for dems. Back at the time of the referendum, the vote did not split along party lines. Pro-legalization votes came from all factions.


17 posted on 07/08/2014 11:47:37 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Smoking dope makes one a liberal.


18 posted on 07/08/2014 11:51:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: steve86
Opium, coca and mushrooms are all medicinal and beneficial when used responsibly. Even poison ivy, poison oak and stinging nettle have medicinal value. God gave us all these plants to use as tools, not imprison people who touch them.

Cannabis is a highly medicinal plant with more active compounds than any other. Our body uses internal cannabinoids for practically every function and the cannabis plant is very symbiotic with mammals and birds.

Banning the medical research of cannabis was a crime against humanity. Of course it all could have been the intent of the opium industry since dozens of cannabis medications touted as opium alternatives were patented just 1 year before hemp prohibition.

19 posted on 07/08/2014 11:54:14 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: dainbramaged

William F Buckley was not a dope smoker.

I know what you are referring to and your representation of it as Buckley as a pot head is typical of the delusional thinking that dope smoking induces.


20 posted on 07/08/2014 11:54:39 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

I’ll bet drinking whiskey makes one a conservative.


21 posted on 07/08/2014 11:55:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: ifinnegan

no it doesnt. i know plenty of conservatives who choose a natural plant over the demon alcohol.

$26.50 for 2 grams is some pricy weed, grow your own.


22 posted on 07/08/2014 11:55:53 AM PDT by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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To: varyouga

You are repeating hippie New Left propaganda from the 60’s and 70’s.

You probably don’t even know it.

And importantly, it is not true.


23 posted on 07/08/2014 11:56:44 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

You sound rather delusional, have a doobie.


24 posted on 07/08/2014 11:58:01 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: ifinnegan
Name one thing I said that is not true.

Cannabinoids regulate practically every body system. Banning cannabis effectively banned the study of plant cannabinoids. A crime against humanity to prop up the opium industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system

25 posted on 07/08/2014 12:00:07 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Finatic

“no it doesnt. i know plenty of conservatives who choose a natural plant over the demon alcohol.”

I don’t believe you.

I believe you are deliberately lying. When not, you are mischaracterizing conservative.

I know Tim Leary, Bill Ayers hippie New Left propaganda because I’ve heard it my whole life.

Having people spew it forth on a conservative forum doesn’t make it anymore true now than it ever was.


26 posted on 07/08/2014 12:00:21 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: varyouga
Opium, coca and mushrooms are all medicinal and beneficial when used responsibly.

I don't deny that (but the argument is pretty variable when applied to various species of mushrooms). The problem is always abuse, and dependency or even addiction in the case of the first two.

27 posted on 07/08/2014 12:03:04 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: ifinnegan
Smoking dope makes one a liberal.

You're just spouting ideological rhetoric.

28 posted on 07/08/2014 12:04:39 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: varyouga

This entire sentence is pabulum, no truth in in at all because there is no substance:

“Cannabis is a highly medicinal plant with more active compounds than any other. Our body uses internal cannabinoids for practically every function and the cannabis plant is very symbiotic with mammals and birds.”

It is rhetoric without understanding or knowledge.

It is the stoner fantasy. Dope is good for everything. It’s magic, will save the world.

By the way, there are chemically no internal cannabinoids.

They are called that for the sake of description and categorization, but it is not meant literally.

Cannabinoid affect certain receptors that are wide spread throughout brain and body and disrupt the normal function of these receptors and various systems they regulate.

They are a toxin that does have a use in lowering intraoccular pressure in people with glaucoma.

The mental toxic effects, for which it is most abused, are insidious.


29 posted on 07/08/2014 12:07:58 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: steve86

No. I am not.

The drug epidemic that began in the 60’s was pushed by the New Left for a reason.

Does anyone seriously think dopers are conservative?

Smoking dope affects the brain and does increase susceptibility to certain types of thinking associated with left and liberal ideas.


30 posted on 07/08/2014 12:10:13 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: PoloSec

“...Several dozen people waited outside before the doors opened...”

The rest of the folk were sitting on the couch, hitting the bong, eating oreos, and watching cartoons.

KYPD


31 posted on 07/08/2014 12:10:57 PM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: ifinnegan
Smoking dope affects the brain and does increase susceptibility to certain types of thinking associated with left and liberal ideas.

Yes, it does seem to have long-term negative effects on still-developing brains. As far as "susceptibility to certain types of thinking associated with left and liberal ideas", I don't know. Maybe. College kids tend to be that way anyway.

If I try marijuana and lose my strong pro-life, traditional family, and Christian orientations, I'll let you know. At age 59 I doubt that is going to be the case. Not aware of any drug that would do this except for something like scopolamine that would make one extremely suggestible for a short period of time.

32 posted on 07/08/2014 12:19:55 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

I watched the opening on KING5 news.

I basically can take it or leave it.
But it is in fact a very good general purpose analgesic, and helps greatly with the aches and pains of getting older.


33 posted on 07/08/2014 12:20:47 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: dainbramaged

“William F. Buckley was a toker and it didn’t seem to affect his intellect.”

I could not find anything where it stated W.F. Buckley smoked pot...not to say he didn’t. But I did find this quote:

“Marijuana never kicks down your door in the middle of the night.
Marijuana never locks up sick and dying people,
does not suppress medical research,
does not peek in bedroom windows.
Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation
of the prohibitionists at face value,
marijuana prohibition has done far more harm
to far more people than marijuana ever could.”

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/William.F..Buckley.Quote.B1DA


34 posted on 07/08/2014 12:23:57 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ifinnegan
Does anyone seriously think dopers are conservative?

When you say "dopers" that implies chronic use and that recreational drugs are central to their lifestyle. That is bad regardless of political orientation.

I don't believe you can say that occasional users are all liberal. That just isn't true.

As an aside, I know of meth users who are very conservative on every other topic. They get caught up in an addictive drug and it doesn't matter what their political orientation is.

35 posted on 07/08/2014 12:24:12 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: djf
But it is in fact a very good general purpose analgesic, and helps greatly with the aches and pains of getting older.

That is why I want to purchase an amount of the Indica strain (which is best for that) and put it away until needed. But, unfortunately, I guess virtually all of the retail product being grown in WA legally is hybrid Indica/Sativa. Not sure about the medical marijuana strains.

36 posted on 07/08/2014 12:27:05 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: ifinnegan
Smoking dope makes one a liberal.

Supporting the War On (Some) Drugs turns so-called conservatives into hyprocrites.

37 posted on 07/08/2014 12:27:52 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: steve86

Your comments I think are well meant but rather specious.

If you were to begin smoking dope on a regular basis, it would definitely be due to a change in life and it would cause your thinking and worldview to change.

But given your life history and faith in Christ, it’s doubtful you’d fall apart like this.

BTW, scopolamine just puts one out if their mind for a large period of time at high doses. Not enough connection to reality is maintained for it to be used as you suggest.

But any drug can be used for brainwashing type applications.


38 posted on 07/08/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: djf

Regarding medical marijuana strains: Did you see the recent article where a person was denied her concealed permit somewhere in Washington State because she had a medical marijuana permit? So that’s not an option.


39 posted on 07/08/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

I will agree with a differentiation between dopers and occasional users.

Yet, I would still say the overwhelming majority of the latter are liberal.

It is a two pronged effect. An underlying liberal bias is associated with the decision to use the drug, and use of the drug reinforces and strengthens the underlying liberalism.

Interestingly, the dopers may have a higher percentage of what we could consider nominal conservatives than the occasional users.

Truth be told, there aren’t really many occasional users.


40 posted on 07/08/2014 12:33:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: PoloSec

Based on news reports from Colo, there’s big money to be made providing security, since all the transactions have to be made in cash.


41 posted on 07/08/2014 12:39:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: ifinnegan
There are 400+ compounds in cannabis that are very similar in structure to cannabinoids produced by the body. That is why cannabis has an effect when used. It is not a toxin like alcohol but instead works with the body. The natural compounds are 100% non-toxic. Even at impossible doses that can only be administered in a lab. Every other medicine in your cabinet is FAR more toxic.

So why are we allowed to study opium and countless other toxic compounds but cannot touch cannabis? The “dope” issue is not the reason since countless Rx drugs are infinitely more impairing, toxic and addictive than cannabis. This is not for safety. It is an obvious scam to make money for certain people.

Of course plants that are symbiotic to humans like opium and cannabis can be used as dope. They naturally have powerful effects on the body. However, they can also be used as medicine and the research possibilities are endless.

I'm not even talking about recreational use. Banning an entire class of natural compounds from research and screaming "dope!" whenever someone looks at them is pathetic groupthink and a crime against humanity.

42 posted on 07/08/2014 12:39:55 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

“There are 400+ compounds in cannabis that are very similar in structure to cannabinoids produced by the body.”

You don’t know anything about biochemistry, do you?


43 posted on 07/08/2014 12:51:49 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: steve86

“As an aside, I know of meth users who are very conservative on every other topic”

That makes sense.

Amphetamines, opioids, alcohol, nicotine, do not affect the mental aspects of the brain in the way marijuana and hallucinogens, do.

These latter drugs change thinking and world view.

The New Left always ragged against alcohol and nicotine while advocating use of hallucinogens.

There was and is a reason for that.

We still see the exact same New Left garbage being thrown out here in certain posts extolling weed in contrast to the “demon alcohol”.


44 posted on 07/08/2014 12:56:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
Truth be told, there aren’t really many occasional users.

And you base this "truth" on......?

45 posted on 07/08/2014 12:57:13 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: gdani

I don’t think that is true, either.


46 posted on 07/08/2014 12:58:26 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: varyouga

On a wider level, you can’t keep a coherent line of thought and are just factually wrong.

You seem to live in the doper make believe paranoid paradise.

Let ask you, what drugs do you use and how often?

What education do you have or are currently doing?

Have you ever passed a college level intro chemistry?

If so, have you passed organic chemistry?

Do you like old Freak Brother comics?


47 posted on 07/08/2014 1:01:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: varyouga
compounds in cannabis that are very similar in structure to cannabinoids produced by the body. That is why cannabis has an effect when used.

You can make that same argument for Opium derivatives, but not sure you want to. Endorphins ("endogenous morphine") are endogenous opioid inhibitory neuropeptides.

48 posted on 07/08/2014 1:01:39 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: ifinnegan

That ad hominem stuff isn’t very effective and is fallacious.


49 posted on 07/08/2014 1:03:24 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: gdani

On the fact that people generally begin using regularly or not at all.

Occasional use is a transient phase.

What, though, the legalization will do and is meant to do, will increase the number of occasional users, increase the length of time one is an occasional user and ultimately increase the number of chronic high frequency users.

Washington state has all ready had huge numbers of users and the utter leftism and irrationality of their politics reflects this.

Same for CA.


50 posted on 07/08/2014 1:05:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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