Skip to comments.The real reason gun control is failing
Posted on 07/08/2014 12:29:58 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
Americans are still OK with guns, and until we can change that, Michael Bloomberg's millions won't mean a thing
The Michael Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Gun Safety announced on Monday a new gambit for creating pressure on candidates to move, finally, in the direction of stricter gun laws: the group will offer them a survey. Everytown one of several sane competitors playing the long game against the National Rifle Associations stranglehold on violence in America will make politicians put their positions on firearm restrictions, however convoluted, on the record. As the head of the organization, which has $50m in Bloomberg backing to the NRAs untold millions, pronounced: Now were going toe-to-toe with the gun lobby.
This has the feel of a good idea, because it is one one already employed, simply to opposite effect, by the NRA itself. Everytown isn't offering a counterweight to the NRA's rating system, it is duplicating it
just without the grades. What information could an anti-gun voter would find in the Everytown questionnaire that the NRA hasn't ferreted out itself? It will tell you who to vote for as surely as a National Right-to-Life rating will direct a voter concerned about preserving the right to choose.
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
“Americans are still OK with guns, and until we can change that, Michael Bloomberg’s millions won’t mean a thing “.
And, why would that NEED to be changed. Despite all the BS currently going on, America is still the only country of consequence that has this kind of freedom. We don’t need some assclown from the UK (is she?) trying to aid in creating the same kind of utopia currently seen in the UK. i.e. bugger off lady.
No, the problem is that there is a liberal trying to describe something without popping her denial bubble.
This is clinical insanity, folks. Nothing less.
Do you agree that we can do more to both keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people and protect the rights of responsible, law-abiding people?
Do you support requiring all gun buyers to pass a criminal background check?
Do you support a law that would prohibit convicted stalkers, people convicted of abusing a dating partner, and people subject to a domestic violence restraining order against a dating partner from having guns?
Do you support a law that would require a criminal background check for every gun sold between strangers who meet through an online gun classified website?
Do you support increased funding for the programs that help states submit records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to block severely mentally ill people from buying guns?
Do you support a law that would close the terror gap and block people listed on the federal governments terror watch lists from buying guns?
Do you support a federal gun trafficking law that would increase penalties on gun traffickers and make it easier to prosecute and convict them?
Do you support banning the sale of high capacity ammunition magazines, or magazines that hold more than 10 bullets at a time?
Do you support a law that would allow a prosecutor to bring charges if a gun owner stores a firearm negligently, a minor accesses the gun, and harm results?
Do you oppose national concealed carry reciprocity, which would overturn state laws that determine who may carry a concealed loaded gun in public, and force every state to recognize concealed carry permits from every other state?
I'm keepin' that one ;)
Blah, blah, BS, blah, blah. Hits nail on head. Blah, BS, BS, blah.
The whole article is in this one paragraph.
Fine don’t call them “illegal” call them “criminal foreign invaders”
Gracious! This creature "reasons" like some sort of third-world pantheistic heathen. It's an inanimate object, not some sort of evil totem or talisman.
Bad products kill many great marketing campaigns.
Gun control is a bad product and a bad idea.
No matter how much they spend to tell us otherwise.
Having accepted her serfdom, the author impugns liberty.
Human beings are violent, aggressive creatures, capable of unspeakable horrors. Her solution to this violence is the absurd raving of a confused mind.
If preventing free men from gun ownership is the solution to man’s violence, what happened to the Tutsis?
NO x 10.
But why would any same legislator even bother to fill out a questionnaire compiles by a fascist enemy of civil rights? I’d piss on it, then toss it in the dumpster.
IOW, the gun is the nexus of evil in a "situation." The humans are just along for the ride.
Americans know very shortly they're going to need them for their original purpose.
Total British casualties from battle and disease in the Revolutionary War: around 24,000
Seems like the limeys haven’t learned their lesson from the last time they tried to take our guns.
Pretty much a bunch of “No”s there, but I do like how many are couched in a manner of ‘When did you stop beating your wife?’
It’s failing because you gotta use both hands...
It’s not about guns, it’s about control.
Guns are tools, and as such are value neutral. Guns values, like any tool is based on how a person uses it, and even then are more a reflection of the person using it than anything intrinsic to the tool itself. Guns are not good or evil. guns are an extension of an individual. if a individual is good, healthy and lawful and has a gun then that gun is likely to be used in a lawful way, and vice versa. I know this sounds simplistic, but it is an argument I have successfully used against those who believe guns are intrinsically evil or bad. the analogy i have used is this: suppose you have a toaster. nobody believes toasters are evil or dangerous, right? It’s a device that toasts bread. If, however you were to drop said toaster into your spouses bath while they were bathing it would be quite lethal. Is that toaster now “evil”?. No, almost all people respond that the person who dropped the toaster in the bath are “evil”. It is the same with guns. They do not create violence. People create violence. Now guns can certainly facilitate violence if misused. However if properly used guns can also deter and stop violence. I think some of the issue with guns is the naive belief by liberals that somehow if they were able to magically make all of them disappear tomorrow that violence and crime would stop. But the truth of that is humans were beating the shit out of each other long before guns came along. I think it’s easier for liberals , who tend to be secular humanists to blame things rather than people for problems.If you take away the thing, however and the problem persists then by process of elimination the cause of the problem is people. Its true: people suck. but the first step in solving any problem is understanding the cause.
Its important to keep an eye on what your opponent is thinking and this is their latest thrust - the mental health issue.
In real fact, most people with mental problems are more afraid of you than you are of them. How dangerous are the average mentally impaired? They are more of a threat to themselves than to other people.
Dangerous, unstable people are not necessarily clinically “insane”. And dangerous, unstable people are the kind of individuals who pull off a Sandy Hook, etc. The problem is making sure such individuals can’t acquire a firearm. And there is the conundrum. You can’t. Most people with hot tempers are not Sandy Hook types.
What the evil left is not saying here, but IMPLYING, is that by giving the state, through selected mental health “specialists” the power to determine who is sane or not, you are giving government the right to determine who can have a firearm based on factors other than prior criminal behavior - and THAT is a very dangerous thing. Far more dangerous than the few Sandy Hooks we have had.
Ask a few of those people Stalin or his successors locked up in insane asylums for political crimes.
***Americans are still OK with guns, and until we can change that, Michael Bloomberg’s millions won’t mean a thing ***
They have been trying ever since 1962 and picked up steam in 1968, then the citizens wised up to this power grab and reject it at every turn.
Stopped reading right there. Lost interest totally.
In that this is an “al-Guardian” article, it deserves a rewrite to make slavery the issue, not gun control. Doing so really makes it abundantly clear what is the mindset of such people. Here it is:
The real reason slavery is failing
Americans are still OK with freedom, and until we can change that, Michael Bloomberg’s millions won’t mean a thing
The Michael Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Slavery announced on Monday a new gambit for creating pressure on candidates to move, finally, in the direction of legalizing slavery: the group will offer them a survey.
Everytown one of several sane competitors playing the long game against the Abolitionists stranglehold on black liberty in America will make politicians put their positions on negro restrictions, however convoluted, on the record.
As the head of the organization, which has $50m in Bloomberg backing to the Abolitionists untold millions, pronounced: “Now were going toe-to-toe with the Abolitionist lobby.”...
I suspect this disconnect between pro-slavery advocates and the average, not-very-concerned voter has to do with the very tactic that Everytown and its ideological brethren believe to be their most effective pitch: We need slavery to stop black people from becoming “uppity”. We need slavery to protect our children from black people who are little more than animals...
The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right
to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out
for them in the last two decades...
And in the last two months... (Nov. 2012 and Dec. 2012)
And it continues...
And there is more...
MOLON LAVE! WE'LL BUY MILLIONS MORE. ;-)
“In the “bad guy with a gun” versus a “good guy with a gun” scenario, the problem isn’t who’s bad and who’s good, it’s that there is a gun involved, period.”
“And there we have a core part of leftist thought. The idea that people have no moral agency, make no moral choices, have no responsibility for their actions.”
Liberal elites should move to Dubai - now there's a county where the elites rule and the common people are treated like animals.
Zuckerberg and Bloomie, Michael Moore, Al Gore, John Kerry and all the other 'oh so superior liberal elite' assh*les would love it there.... shove-those-little-people-around paradise....
They basically BLEW THEIR CHANCE in the past...now, probably, twice as many people owned guns as did 30 years ago (even accounting for population growth).
Gun owners are DANGEROUS PEOPLE to liberals - they will vote to keep their guns, and that generally doesn’t help Democrats much (except in some parts of the country, where enough people are already unarmed).