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Blame weak gun laws for holiday violence, Chicago's top cop says
CNN ^ | July 7, 2014 | Michael Pearson

Posted on 07/08/2014 1:55:27 PM PDT by Q-ManRN

Chicago's police superintendent lashed out at what he called lax state and federal gun laws after a violent Fourth of July weekend that saw more than 60 people shot and nine killed in a city already known for frequent shootings.

"There has to come a tipping point where this changes," Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said Monday of the violence. "The illogical nature of what's happening here -- that government can intercede and prevent this from happening is overwhelming. And I refuse to think otherwise in a great country like America that we can continue to allow this to happen -- not just on a state, but on a federal level."

McCarthy said the violence unraveled a string of successes by police in suppressing gun violence this year. The city saw 21 shooting incidents on Sunday alone, he said, although three of them may have been self-inflicted.

"These offenders need to be held fully accountable for violent behavior to prevent them from ending up back on the street too soon," he said, adding, "There's too many guns coming in and too little punishment going out."

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Will the endless charade of Chicago liberals trying to make it sound like their failed gun control policies will work ever stop?

Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy says "The illogical nature of what's happening here -- that government can intercede and prevent this from happening is overwhelming." What's happening here according to Superintendent McCarthy is the federal & state governments are not passing gun control legislation which is illogical to him.

However, Chicago has passed an abundance of gun control laws rivaling cities like NYC & San Francisco. The Federal government created a national background check system with federal laws mandating it's usage at the point-of-sale back in the mid-1990's. Many states also run state-level criminal background checks for firearms purchases.

Have these initiatives stopped violent crime in Chicago? Apparently not. Have they protected Chicago's law-abiding citizens? Definitely not. Why? Criminals do not obey the law and they use illegal means to obtain guns.

Nevertheless, Superintendent McCarthy assures us that the government has the power to stop criminals with more laws. It is a fact that no law has ever stopped a criminal. Another fact is that no government in recorded history has ever been able or willing to protect every individual citizen from violence. Then, there is the fact that countless individuals have historically suffered violence at the hands of governments.

Consider what Superintendent McCarthy considers successful in Chicago- supposedly decreased rampant violence in the streets of Chicago, gangs running amok, high levels of illegal drug abuse, staggering political corruption and a disarmed law-abiding populace completely dependent on the government for protection. I shudder to consider what constitutes his idea of failure!

He end his comments with the right idea of individual accountability for violent behavior, but then denies his own citizens the ability to be accountable for protecting themselves against thugs with guns. Meanwhile, he says "There's too many guns coming in..." admitting that the criminals in Chicago remain well armed despite his city's numerous gun control laws.

I pray for people that live in liberal-run cities like Chicago.

1 posted on 07/08/2014 1:55:27 PM PDT by Q-ManRN
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To: Q-ManRN

It’s not guns, it’s culture.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 1:56:35 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: Q-ManRN

The murder rate in Chicago is so bad, Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is asking residents to carry chalk on them at all times.


3 posted on 07/08/2014 1:57:51 PM PDT by Nachoman (libertyarmstx.com is now open!)
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To: MinuteGal; M Kehoe; mcmuffin; Matchett-PI; Seeking the truth; JulieRNR21; surfer; Bob Ireland

More Chicago gun control foolishness.


4 posted on 07/08/2014 1:58:24 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN
Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy

Dear garry mccarthy ...
Whose payroll are you on?

5 posted on 07/08/2014 1:58:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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6 posted on 07/08/2014 1:58:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: mrmeyer

You wouldn’t have much gun crime if you had the Singapore Solution for crimes committed with guns. Cane them to within an inch of their lives, lock them up, throw away the key.

Instead, liberals want to choke of the supply of stolen weapons by disarming the law abiding, coincidentally leaving them helpless against aggression by criminals... or those in authority. A stupid argument, and a policy that would take scores of years to work, while leaving the law abiding as defenseless prey.


7 posted on 07/08/2014 2:00:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Q-ManRN

Typical government employee - gets a boatload of money, tons of laws - and when he screws up, he says he needs MORE money and laws.

Government is the Peter Preinciple of steriods.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 2:02:48 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Q-ManRN

It’s way easier to bitch about gun laws than it is to actually do what he was hired to do.Suppress crime.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 2:02:51 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Nachoman

lol!!


10 posted on 07/08/2014 2:02:57 PM PDT by albie
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To: mrmeyer

“It’s not guns, it’s culture.”

Really.

I was recently in a three-gun competition. Everyone had a pistol, rifle, and shotgun. A fair amount of full autos, even.

Hundreds of people.

Nary an improper round fired.

No one hurt (except my wife got a hot shall casing in her bra as she emptied her Glock on target, which created a bit of cussing, but didn’t cause her to lose the target.)


11 posted on 07/08/2014 2:03:45 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Q-ManRN

The carnage would have been worse over the holiday weekend except for Chief Cop McCarthy assigning extra police forces to potential trouble spots (all of Chicago?). Unfortunately, the carnage happened outside doughnut shops, bars, and cathouses where the extra patrols were stationed.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 2:04:24 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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To: Q-ManRN

Garry McCarthy is a dismal failure.

When your police chief fails to control crime in your city, you boot his azz to the curb and put someone competent to take his place.

McCarthy is fellow Commie scum like his boss Rahmbo.

Birds of a feather. They both need to go for Chicago to survive.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 2:04:47 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Nachoman
The murder rate in Chicago is so bad, Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is asking residents to carry chalk on them at all times.

And if you have your own body bag, you'll be assigned one of the newer, more spacious, freezers at the morgue.

14 posted on 07/08/2014 2:05:25 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Q-ManRN
Well, it is Chicago, where what doesn't work has to be tried again and again.
Just add some more pointless gun laws and see if it fixes the problem *this* time.

15 posted on 07/08/2014 2:05:50 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Q-ManRN

Lock up dirtbag thugs and murderers and your problem will go away, you moronic cop.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 2:06:12 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Weak gun laws? how about immoral people?


17 posted on 07/08/2014 2:06:16 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: mrmeyer

In the North GA. Mtn. over the same weekend no shootings and there is a hell of a lot of guns. Could it be a population of hard working, G_D fearing, right wing people?


18 posted on 07/08/2014 2:06:35 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: Nachoman
The murder rate in Chicago is so bad, Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is asking residents to carry chalk on them at all times.

The murder rate is so bad, funeral homes are offeringing volume discounts!

19 posted on 07/08/2014 2:06:56 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Q-ManRN

So of course their solution is to take guns from honest, law-abiding, non-violent people and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


20 posted on 07/08/2014 2:07:48 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Q-ManRN
Well, good luck with all that.

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21 posted on 07/08/2014 2:07:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Maybe its because their top cop in in-cop-etent


22 posted on 07/08/2014 2:09:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Q-ManRN

To paraphrase Menechem Begin, when democrats kill democrats they blame the conservatives.


23 posted on 07/08/2014 2:09:59 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: mrmeyer

I’ll bet the vast majority of shooters and victims were blacks and Hispanics. But of course the media wants to blame the person with the AR-15 who has never shot anything other than paper plats and tin cans.


24 posted on 07/08/2014 2:12:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Q-ManRN
No! The problem is not enough “Gun Free Zone” signs. Chi-Congo has to put up more. Then too, some “Attack Free Zone” where people can run to so they're safe from an attacker chasing them. Doesn't the CPS know any thing about how to curb violence?????
25 posted on 07/08/2014 2:22:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Q-ManRN

Weak gun laws in Chicago were the cause? Then all of Indiana and downstate Illinois should be absolutely covered in blood by now.


26 posted on 07/08/2014 2:22:58 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Q-ManRN
Oh and PS - I know that Chi-Congo has the weakest gun laws of any city, bar none.
27 posted on 07/08/2014 2:23:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Q-ManRN

Chicago is still no closer to figuring out what their problem is.


28 posted on 07/08/2014 2:24:09 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Q-ManRN

How many of the guns used were bought and carried legally?


29 posted on 07/08/2014 2:28:47 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Cane them to within an inch of their lives, lock them up, throw away the key repeat.
30 posted on 07/08/2014 2:30:55 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Those evil guns just jump into innocent peoples hands, causing death and chaos. Oh, the hugh manatee!

/sarc>

CC


31 posted on 07/08/2014 2:36:37 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: ex91B10

They have no criminals just a lotta guns that kill people!
I was near Chicago in the early 2000’s my wife asked if I wanted to go into Chicago? I said are you crazy and you want to go! She said no I have no need I just didn’t wanna hold you back! Screw Chicago!


32 posted on 07/08/2014 2:36:41 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: Q-ManRN

Garry McCarthy, member of the IACP, (International Association of Chief’s of Police)a liberal, anti-gun organization. The IACP is committed to anti-gun legislation. It’s a Trojan Horse organization that I believe will take a lead in the militarization of police forces that some here say they see.

An example is the practice of giving college graduates preference over military veterans for jobs on the police dept. This did not used to be the case. In my opinion more college graduates are indoctrinated at liberal run universities, less so in the military.

There have been articles written about the IACP but I do not think most people are aware of exactly who they are and the danger they pose.


33 posted on 07/08/2014 2:40:42 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Q-ManRN

NOT too many guns... there’s too many criminals.


34 posted on 07/08/2014 2:41:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Remember the oath is to “support and defend the Constitution” not the President.FRrfreedom4u)
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To: Q-ManRN

,,,,,,, mayhem ,,,,, an 0bama dream come true .


35 posted on 07/08/2014 2:48:34 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Nachoman
Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is asking residents to carry chalk on them at all times.

The problem is lawless out of control black males. Period. Take that group out of the equation and you've got an average American city.

If cops are tired of babysitting the Chicago black community they need to switch policing incentives. How?

Charge people for police service by zip code. Add it on to their electric bill.

When people have to pay for out of control thugs they'll drop the 'no snitch' game. They'll drop the 'cop is my marriage counselor' game. They drop 'cop is a stand-in father' game.

The non-black community is forced to buy home security systems so cops can concentrate where the crime is... we pay for nothing. Non-blacks have become part of the perverse incentive system. And this police chief... I doubt he's spent an hour thinking outside the box in his life. Switch incentives.

36 posted on 07/08/2014 2:49:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Remember the oath is to “support and defend the Constitution” not the President.FRrfreedom4u)
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To: Q-ManRN
The "top cop" is an ignorant moron. The problem is violent blacks. Period. The "top cop" lacks a brain and balls.
37 posted on 07/08/2014 3:16:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Q-ManRN

McCarthy is a joke. He is utterly despised by a majority of citizens. I have NEVER heard anyone say anything positive about him.


38 posted on 07/08/2014 4:24:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Q-ManRN

THE BROKEN RECORD STRIKES AGAIN!

“...need more gun laws...” click,
“...need more gun laws...” click,
“...need more gun laws...” click,
“...need more gun laws...” click,


39 posted on 07/08/2014 4:24:27 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: TigersEye

“Chicago is still no closer to figuring out what their problem is.”

Oh, Chicago knows fully well what the problem is, and Chicago politicians and liberals are knowingly encouraging that problem. They WANT it, so they can use it as an excuse to grab even more power over the people.


40 posted on 07/08/2014 4:32:01 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Q-ManRN

It’s all a corollary of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Overwhelm the public with violence and then demand that the only solution is government intervention beginning with firearm confiscation.


41 posted on 07/08/2014 4:36:28 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ought-six

That is the case and every POS “Topcop” has repeated the same solution for so many years, “We have to get guns off the streets”. Idiots.


42 posted on 07/08/2014 5:12:57 PM PDT by X-FID
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To: Cap'n Crunch

Liberals put education over experience especially in higher level positions because they value indoctrination.

Thank you for the heads up about the the International Association of Chief’s of Police (IACP). I had also read a police officers comments some time ago pointing out that police chiefs are political appointees beholden to the politician that appointed them; whereas, sheriffs are elected and therefore they are accountable to the voters.

Cap’n Crunch wrote:
“Garry McCarthy, member of the IACP, (International Association of Chief’s of Police)a liberal, anti-gun organization. The IACP is committed to anti-gun legislation. It’s a Trojan Horse organization that I believe will take a lead in the militarization of police forces that some here say they see.

An example is the practice of giving college graduates preference over military veterans for jobs on the police dept. This did not used to be the case. In my opinion more college graduates are indoctrinated at liberal run universities, less so in the military.

There have been articles written about the IACP but I do not think most people are aware of exactly who they are and the danger they pose.”


43 posted on 07/08/2014 6:28:39 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Fungi

My point precisely! I wish folks would spend as much time worrying about criminals & psychopaths as they do worrying about guns. I wish we spent half as much time talking about better monitoring and care of the mentally ill or violent offenders as we do talking about guns.


44 posted on 07/08/2014 6:38:55 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Your welcome. I was in a bit of a rush when I wrote about the IACP, here is an article that was published by the NRA back in 2007 with more detail about the IACP.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2007/follow-the-money.aspx

They are funded by big money gun-grabbers like Bloomberg, Obama once sat on one of their foundations, the Joyce Foundation. The IACP is in nearly every police dept. across the country.


45 posted on 07/09/2014 4:02:30 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: TheThirdRuffian
No one hurt (except my wife got a hot shall casing in her bra as she emptied her Glock on target, which created a bit of cussing, but didn’t cause her to lose the target.)
Was she using the HoMeBoy NiTe SyTeS or just terribly unlucky?

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46 posted on 07/09/2014 4:12:36 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Gun prosecutions under Obama down more than 45 percent

Despite his calls for greater gun control, including a new assault weapons ban that extends to handguns, President Obama’s administration has turned away from enforcing gun laws, cutting weapons prosecutions some 40 percent since a high of about 11,000 under former President Bush.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969934/posts

FUBO


47 posted on 07/09/2014 4:45:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Q-ManRN

The top cop is lazy.

Rather than stop and frisk he does nothing.

People kill people.


48 posted on 07/09/2014 4:47:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Obama’s Chicago Dead Last In Federal Gun Prosecutions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3003455/posts

heckuva job, juggears!


49 posted on 07/09/2014 5:21:58 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Told her it’s because they’re big targets. Ha


50 posted on 07/09/2014 7:38:18 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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