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Top Obama official blasts Israel for denying Palestinians sovereignty, security, dignity
Times of Israel ^ | 7-9-2014 | Raphael Ahren

Posted on 07/08/2014 7:03:35 PM PDT by tcrlaf

How can Israel have peace if it’s unwilling to delineate a border, end the occupation?’ asks White House Mideast chief, Phillip Gordon, in a blistering Tel Aviv speech.

Israel’s ongoing occupation of the West Bank is wrong and leads to regional instability and dehumanization of Palestinians, a top American government official said Tuesday in Tel Aviv, hinting that the current Israeli government is not committed to peace.

In an unusually harsh major foreign policy address, Philip Gordon, a special assistant to US President Barack Obama and the White House coordinator for the Middle East, appealed to Israeli and Palestinian leaders to make the compromises needed to reach a permanent peace agreement. Jerusalem “should not take for granted the opportunity to negotiate” such a treaty with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who has proven to be a reliable partner, Gordon said.

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Delivering the keynote address at the Haaretz newspaper’s Israel Conference on Peace, Gordon reiterated Obama’s position that a final-status agreement should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


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YET AGAIN, The Obama Administration is attacking an ally, and supporting an enemy that wants all of us DEAD.....

1 posted on 07/08/2014 7:03:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

The so-called ‘Palestinians’ wouldn’t have the use of indoor plumbing without their so-called enemies.

Will those detestable mongrels ever figure out they are being used as cannon fodder by their Arab ‘brothers?’


2 posted on 07/08/2014 7:07:03 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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The Palestinian government is a terrorist government. As such, it does not deserve to be recognized as a legitimate world class government.

Swear off the inhalation of Israel (read that “ALL JEWS”). Live in peace side by side. Develop peaceful economic relations. Then ask for nation status and Israel will back you.

Until then go F yourself.

Europe, Obama administration, and anyone else, tell us you would back statehood for a nation on your border lobbing in missiles a few hundred times per day.

Until then, go F yourself.


4 posted on 07/08/2014 7:07:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: tcrlaf; All

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” -Barack Obama, “The Audacity of Hope”, page 261.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Because heaven knows there aren’t enough arab countries in the middle east already.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 7:10:35 PM PDT by marron
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To: tcrlaf
Top Obama official blasts Israel for denying Palestinians sovereignty, security, dignity

And in the meantime the Israelis are dodging rockets.

7 posted on 07/08/2014 7:10:41 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: wetgundog
And who continually violates cease fires over and over and over again.

It's ok to fire hundreds of rockets into Israel? It's ok to kill or injure innocent Israeli citizens?

Who kidnapped three young Israeli teens, then murdered them?

I could just chew nails and spitt’em out listening to these stupid damn liberals.

8 posted on 07/08/2014 7:12:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: tcrlaf
if it’s unwilling to delineate a border,

Paging Rick Perry, Paging Rick Perry...

9 posted on 07/08/2014 7:13:35 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: tcrlaf

President Obama’s new National Security Council coordinator for the Middle East, North Africa and the Gulf does not have much experience with Israeli and Palestinian issues, but observers said the White House will instead benefit from his extensive inside-the-beltway skills.

bringing with him years of federal government experience and a decade in Washington’s think tank world. Like some of his predecessors, Gordon’s strengths lie more in his knowledge of Washington than his familiarity with the meeting rooms of Jerusalem and Ramallah.

While most of his scholarship has focused elsewhere, Gordon has over the years penned op-eds on Israeli and Palestinian issues. During the Israel-Lebanon war in 2006, Gordon wrote in the Washington Post and the Financial Times that Israel’s bombing campaign was ill advised, as was the United States’ backing for it.

Press Here

10 posted on 07/08/2014 7:15:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: servantboy777

“I could just chew nails and spitt’em out listening to these stupid damn liberals. “

Liberals enjoy getting people killed. It fosters their agenda.


11 posted on 07/08/2014 7:16:20 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: tcrlaf

Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
Isaiah 5:20.

This administration is truly deranged and pure evil.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 7:17:52 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: tcrlaf

Hey Obama, what about OUR BORDER?


13 posted on 07/08/2014 7:17:57 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: tcrlaf

have you noticed whenever we start getting really crappy towards Israel bad things start happening in the US...look what happened after the Bush admin started pressuring Israel...Obama got elected twice!!


14 posted on 07/08/2014 7:18:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: tcrlaf

“dehumanization of Palestinians”

I am pretty sure they have self-dehumanized.


15 posted on 07/08/2014 7:21:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: tcrlaf

So let me get this correct Obama wants Israel to accept the borders of 1967. Yet Israel was attacked and is attacked regularly from Gaza which Israel relunctantly ceded. so Israel is not to protect its borders. Just like the USA is not to protect its borders.

okay I live near Michigans border with Canada (Sault Ste Marie). There is not a week that goes by that someone has tried and at times achieves getting someone across the border. The individuals believe they are clear, do a u turn to go back to the last rest area before the border and every time they get busted with the person or persons getting out of the trunk or the area where the suitcases cover over the person. They are clear from the border to lower Michigan or can go to Wisconsin, Illinois or other points west.

Obama denies the sovereign borders of the US but wants the muslims to have no borders so they can kill a nation Israel.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 7:25:07 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: doug from upland

Bingo!


17 posted on 07/08/2014 7:25:36 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: tcrlaf
US Congress 1939 records foreign Arab immigration into 'vacant land' of Palestine

The following is a remarkable speech given in 1939 by John William McCormack (1891 - 1980) of Massachusetts, Representative to the House, on a 'Jewish Homeland' in Palestine. Protesting harshly the British (White Papers) restriction on Jewish immigration while Arab immigration is allowed to flow. Citing the great approval by 5 presidents and an array of high officials all praising the great achievement done by the Jews in Palestine, uplifting and up-building the land. He notices the Arab immigration of at least 150,000 (equal to that of the Jews') from neighboring countries as well as an overall rise in Arab population (such as, an over 50% rise during 17 Years 1920-1937), all due to Jews' work in the "vacant land" of Palestine, that all of a sudden made it all attractive.

18 posted on 07/08/2014 7:25:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: tcrlaf
There's only one solution here, and I'll call it the "Final Solution" in the interest of irony:

Israel must ethnically cleanse Gaza, West Bank and the Golan.

Forcibly remove all Arabs except those who swear allegiance to Israel.

19 posted on 07/08/2014 7:26:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tcrlaf

Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah and Abbas
conveniently attacked Israel ... on Obama’s “green light”.


20 posted on 07/08/2014 7:26:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: tcrlaf

Obama is a traitor to this nation.

He knew of the children coming six months ago, and didn’t do one thing to stop it.

Congress should stop funding anything that this president has pushed. Just end it now.

We’ll see who has the power to create law, Obama or Congress.

The House can simply cut him off at the knees. Stop funding his projects. End it today.

http://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Power-of-the-Purse/


21 posted on 07/08/2014 7:26:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: RginTN

An observation well worth noting. TY


22 posted on 07/08/2014 7:28:03 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: tcrlaf

Philip Gordon’s family needs to spend a few nights in a bomb shelter like Israelis are doing tonight in order to understand that Hamas is evil.


23 posted on 07/08/2014 7:30:09 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: tcrlaf

To end the occupation, the arabs need to leave ISRAEL’S LAND!!


24 posted on 07/08/2014 7:32:49 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: tcrlaf

UGH!


25 posted on 07/08/2014 7:35:11 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: tcrlaf
Top Obama official blasts Israel for denying Palestinians sovereignty, security, dignity

Here's some indication of the personal sovereignty, security, and dignity allowed young girls in Hamas land.

Muhammad married a six year old bride. But Islam has evolved in 1500 years. In Hamas land, in 2009, the brides are almost seven.


26 posted on 07/08/2014 7:35:22 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: tcrlaf
There ya have it! Jews deserve to be murdered because they hurt the feelings of the fictitious Pali people. Jest as people who oppose agw (anthropogenic global warming) should be killed (25 million of us according to Obama's mentor, Bill Ayers). For the Obama administration, add the six million Jews of Israel to that number.

It is not for nothing that I call Obama the affirmative action Hitler. The real Hitler did build the autobahn and conceived the Volkswagen (with Ferdinand Porsch) while Obama did the Solindra boondoggle.

27 posted on 07/08/2014 7:36:57 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: doc1019
And in the meantime the Israelis are dodging rockets.

Yesterday I was discussing literature on an online forum, and one of our friends from Israel was posting the latest count of rockets and cities targeted.

Another person, an old friend of the family, a year ago sent us a photo of a building next to his... ten huge concrete panels were entirely gone, several apartments gutted, burned, several floors destroyed. Israelis are playing Russian Roulette every single day.

IMO, if Palestinians want war so much, they shall have it. They just shouldn't complain if it doesn't end well for them.

28 posted on 07/08/2014 7:36:59 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: tcrlaf

If a Israeli murders a Pali, Israel doesn’t name a street after the murderer.


29 posted on 07/08/2014 7:37:21 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Greysard

Half of Israel in bomb shelters??

http://www.truthrevolt.org/israel-revolt/4-million-israelis-half-countrys-population-bomb-shelters

and I am sure Obama is demanding Israel show restraint.


30 posted on 07/08/2014 7:38:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

The Obama Administration’s spreading chaos and evil around the world...


31 posted on 07/08/2014 7:39:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Remember the oath is to "support and defend the Constitution" not the President.FRrfreedom4u)
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To: tcrlaf

03.25.13
Why Obama Picked Philip Gordon For NSC Post

President Obama’s new National Security Council coordinator for the Middle East, North Africa and the Gulf does not have much experience with Israeli and Palestinian issues, but observers said the White House will instead benefit from his extensive inside-the-beltway skills.

Philip Gordon took over as special assistant to the president and coordinator for what is often referred to as the Central region at the NSC on March 11, bringing with him years of federal government experience and a decade in Washington’s think tank world. Like some of his predecessors, Gordon’s strengths lie more in his knowledge of Washington than his familiarity with the meeting rooms of Jerusalem and Ramallah.

Longtime peace process veteran Dennis Ross previously served as senior director for the Central region during part of Obama’s second term, and Gordon’s ascension to the role marks a shift from Ross’s familiarity with the area. With new secretaries of state and defense and widespread staff changes at the start of Obama’s second term, much about the peace process remains in flux. Gordon’s choice could signal a lower prioritization for Israeli and Palestinian issues compared to Syria or Iran—or at least less direct control from the White House, which may hand over the reins to Secretary of State John Kerry and the assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, a position currently vacant. Even as Obama comes off his first trip to Israel as president, during which he spoke fervently about finding an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it remains to be seen how the White House and the State Department will divide responsibilities for the region.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/25/why-obama-picked-philip-gordon-for-nsc-post.html


32 posted on 07/08/2014 7:39:41 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tcrlaf

Not sure why, but I love when Israel rolls up their sleeves and displays the beautiful blue and white flag on their tanks and starts lighting up the night skies. Its like the smell of Irish Spring in the shower.


33 posted on 07/08/2014 7:40:27 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: tcrlaf

Gordon talks out of both sides of his mouth throughout the entire article. Just as Alibama does....like two peas in a pod. No wonder at all BiBi has little interest in speaking to these two....

Can’t hardly believe he would say such things in Tel-Aviv conference.....stunning really!


34 posted on 07/08/2014 7:41:06 PM PDT by caww
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...”rise in Arab population (such as, an over 50% rise during 17 Years 1920-1937), all due to Jews’ work in the “vacant land” of Palestine, that all of a sudden made it all attractive”....

That whole area was a dust bin before Israel cultivated and built it up.

The Arabs are a jealous and hateful people even among one another. With all the oil wealth they could of cornered out a small land area any place else in the ME and let them go at it... but then of course they’d have no reason to chide Israel all the time...nor a place to get their suicide bombers from.


35 posted on 07/08/2014 7:42:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

Our so-called leaders in Washington are absolutely insane.


36 posted on 07/08/2014 7:43:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: tcrlaf

I heard that half of Israel is in bomb shelters and being told they need to be nice.


37 posted on 07/08/2014 7:46:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

This is when JUDGEMENT begins to fall on our land.
I happen to be one of those old fashioned Bible believing Christians and I am not afraid at all to say so!

God is quite clear about Israel. To turn our backs on this land is asking for trouble... and that from The Highest of High...God HELP US!


38 posted on 07/08/2014 7:47:09 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: pollywog

Maybe you need to be even OLDER fashioned and ask the Lord into YOUR life.

Heaven’s battles are not fought by proxy.


39 posted on 07/08/2014 7:48:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tcrlaf

No-one can live in peace with muslim neighbors.... It is not possible.


40 posted on 07/08/2014 7:50:36 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: tcrlaf

TheDon says to blast the Palis back to the stone age. And no more American taxpayer money for them, for any purpose.


41 posted on 07/08/2014 7:53:20 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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42 posted on 07/08/2014 7:53:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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““I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” -Barack Obama, “The Audacity of Hope”, page 261.”

so like hitler, Obama published his true intentions, but people choose not to believe it.


43 posted on 07/08/2014 7:54:56 PM PDT by willywill
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To: caww

Exactly. They didn’t want the land until the Jews made it worth something.


44 posted on 07/08/2014 7:55:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: relictele

“....Will those detestable mongrels ever figure out they are being used as cannon fodder by their Arab ‘brothers?’”

NOT just no, but ‘H’ NO. Just like CERTAIN Americans who are so self absorbed they can’t see truth much less want to.


45 posted on 07/08/2014 7:55:19 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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How can Israel have peace if it’s unwilling to delineate a border, end the occupation?’ asks White House Mideast chief, Phillip Gordon, in a blistering Tel Aviv speech.

Israel’s ongoing occupation of the West Bank is wrong and leads to regional instability and dehumanization of Palestinians, a top American government official said Tuesday in Tel Aviv, hinting that the current Israeli government is not committed to peace.

Israel, and specifically Bibi Netenyahu needs to tell this left wing, pro-muslim slug Phillip Gordon, one of 0dumb0's butt boys, to just STFU and leave the negotiating to Israeli grown-ups & adults. Israel & Bibi are WAY too condescending & defferential when it comes to dealing with 0dumb0sh_t!

46 posted on 07/08/2014 8:08:13 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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Though his characterization as refusal is incorrect, I agree with Phillip Gordon. Who has never had a job outside of academia, classic Obama. As I've stated many times over the years I've been here, Israel should delineate a border. Not my choice where it is, though I think the Joint Chiefs back in LBJ's day were correct, it clearly should include about half of the "West Bank", the high ground. Retaining part of the Sinai is no longer possible, it's al Qaida territory now. Somehow I don't think those are the borders Phil was relating to. But no matter, Israel should declare them. Annex the land Israel needs for defense, and define the status of those living in un annexed areas.

I have an idea Phillip wouldn't like, they could be "citizens" of the "territories" Kind of like us Americans do it. No, you don't get to vote in Federal elections. No, not citizens, maybe in the future, maybe not. Nationality, I'd say Jordanian, or Syrian, or Egyptian. But that's a different topic, as it has been here in the States.

47 posted on 07/08/2014 8:08:30 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: tcrlaf

Philip Gordon. It’s pronounced, “Gore Dawn”.


48 posted on 07/08/2014 8:13:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That I did in 1947 at the age of six years old,on a Sunday morning in church, the day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
I asked Him into my life then and He has NEVER LEFT me.
I will someday soon be with Him in heaven, my eternal home, that Obama, nor liberal,yeah no one can take from me!!!!


49 posted on 07/08/2014 8:15:20 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: pollywog

You can continue to choose the degree to which the Lord operates through your life.


50 posted on 07/08/2014 8:16:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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