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AP: ISIS Has Seized Thousands of Rockets with Chemical Warheads
The PJ Tatler via AP ^ | 7-8-2014 | Bryon Preston

Posted on 07/08/2014 8:29:35 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

It’s a confirmation of reports in June that ISIS had taken control of a site where some of Saddam’s WMD arsenal remained.

Iraq has informed the United Nations that the Islamic State extremist group has taken control of a vast former chemical weapons facility northwest of Baghdad where 2,500 chemical rockets filled with the deadly nerve agent sarin or their remnants were stored along with other chemical warfare agents.

Iraq’s U.N. Ambassador Mohamed Ali Alhakim said in a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon circulated Tuesday that “terrorist” groups entered the Muthanna site June 11 and seized weapons and equipment from the protection force guarding the facility.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201406; 20140611; almuthana; alqaedaspring; bushwasright; chemical; iraqwar; isis; movealong; muthana; nothingtoseehere; obamadoctrince; obamadoctrine; obamalegacy; pravdamedia; proislamist; rockets; saddamswmds; sarin; warheads; wmd; wmds
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Great timing for people to be streaming across our border, ha?
1 posted on 07/08/2014 8:29:35 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

But wait, I thought “Bush lied...”.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 8:30:52 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Were these some of the weapons of mass destruction that never met the standard of our “free press”?


3 posted on 07/08/2014 8:31:35 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Time to carpet bomb before it is to late.


4 posted on 07/08/2014 8:32:16 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Not possible. The MSM told me that the WMDs didn’t exist. In fact, they still won’t report on these on tbe nightly “news.”


5 posted on 07/08/2014 8:32:48 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bush and Cheney did us no favors by deciding to keep our knowledge of the transfer of WMD secret.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 8:34:21 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: doc1019

Of course we would have to have a president that gave a crap about anything besides his brother muslims.


7 posted on 07/08/2014 8:34:35 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: wastoute
But wait, I thought “Bush lied...”.

Right now as this report is being read, thousands of liberal heads are exploding across America. And I would be enjoying it if our friggin border wasn't as porous as a sieve.

8 posted on 07/08/2014 8:35:11 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

UNPOSSIBLE!!! There were no WMD’s, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid said so.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 8:35:26 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Greeeeaaaaat. *rolls eyes*


10 posted on 07/08/2014 8:35:36 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: wastoute
More importantly, after Operation Iraqi Freedom, for a time, we owned this country. Why did Bush not get rid of these wmds when he could have, just by saying the word?

The more time passes, the worse Dubya looks. This should have been a no brainer--what did he tell the UN we were going in to Iraq for anyway?

11 posted on 07/08/2014 8:36:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Ha! I said when this was originally reported that they were after chemical weapons, while all the MSM peons were saying “its decommissioned!” BS, they knew what was there because Al-Douri told them and now they have it.

From what we saw in Tokyo, just a small amount of Sarin would be devastating. They could hit our embassy in the green zone with this and there would be no protection. It is time to pull out now before Obama gets people killed.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 8:38:26 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

NOT GOOD: IDF confirms rockets fired by Hamas now have range of at least 62 miles

http://therightscoop.com/not-good-idf-confirms-rockets-fired-by-hamas-now-have-range-of-at-least-62-miles/


13 posted on 07/08/2014 8:39:37 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The same old stuff that’s been entombed there by the U.S. military for over a decade. Little if any of it is viable for any current warfare purpose. I hope I do not turn out to be wrong. If so, how is it conceivable that it existed right under the nose of U.S. forces for all those years?


14 posted on 07/08/2014 8:40:07 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Indeed1 One would think the US would have done away with these when we occupied Iraq.


15 posted on 07/08/2014 8:40:09 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: sheikdetailfeather

How the hell does this happens when we had boots on the ground in these locations for a DECADE?

My lord, what a failure on our part to let this happen. These weapons should have been dismantled in 2004


16 posted on 07/08/2014 8:40:27 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I find it hard to believe that the USA would leave WMD’s in Iraq. Not buying this story as written.


17 posted on 07/08/2014 8:40:43 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

So did we know about the stockpiles? I’ve never heard anything about them. Even from our own side’s leaders.


18 posted on 07/08/2014 8:41:19 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Mastador1
thousands of liberal heads are exploding across America.

Why? It's the old, rotted stuff from the 80s(?) everyone already knew was there.

19 posted on 07/08/2014 8:42:03 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

So now you KNOW why the EXEMPT whores in Congress
and their treasonous pRes_ _ent is leaving the border
open and ESCORTING the terrorists in.

Has anyone, anywhere, been arrested for ignoring
the warnings of BEFORE the Boston Atrocity?

or for giving MANPADs to the terrorists in Benghazi?

Not with this kabuki treasonous Congress.


20 posted on 07/08/2014 8:42:55 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: jpsb

soon to rain down on Baghdad and Iran—then Israel.


21 posted on 07/08/2014 8:43:41 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade
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To: hinckley buzzard

Bush turned it over to the UN and the ISG. Dumbass decision, because they took one look at the crumbling facility and put a chain on the door, washing their hands of it.


22 posted on 07/08/2014 8:44:26 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: wastoute

Bush lied about Islam being a RoP and, as long as he has not retracted that brainless statement, there are millions of gullible Americans who still think that Islam’s imminent danger to this country is highly exaggerated.


23 posted on 07/08/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Come on this has to be BS. The war in Iraq was evil due to the fact Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction. If he actually did, then we may have to rewrite history. But nah the Kurds simply were eating bad food. The inspectors couldn’t have missed some weapons in an are 2/3 the size of Texas, could they?


24 posted on 07/08/2014 8:45:46 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: ilgipper

Here is a post I made on the issue last month to clear it up

Here’s the stink from what I can gather. The facility is called Al Muthanna. After UNSCOM failed to destroy the chemicals there during the 1980s, Saddam used chemicals manufactured there to kill civilian targets. In the 90s, the facility was heavily damaged during the war, in which it was a target for US bombing campaigns.
The facility was subsequently sealed off and remained thus throughout the invasion in the 00s. It was simply too dangerous to operate. Because of this, the suspected WMDs were not believed to have been manufactured or housed in this facility. It was abandoned and entrances were blocked off. Despite this, there were sporadic reports of looters who had found a way into the facility.

During US occupation, the military made the decision that it was safer to leave the chemical weapons buried in the unstable environment than attempt to move them, which would have been a monumental and expensive task. Supposedly, both UN and ISG inspected the facility to the best of their ability, however this was likely incomplete because it sprawls over 10 square miles, with underground laboratories. The interior is highly hazardous for humans to enter.

Now that we are aware that members of Saddam’s Baathist military command, including al-Douri, are helping ISIS to topple the Shi’ite government, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they are aware of how to access a deeper sub-level of the complex where less degraded weapons could be available. Even degraded amounts of VX are highly effective regardless. I very much doubt they hit this place by accident.

The idea that these terrorists cannot use these chemicals unless they are ‘military grade’ (which means they are safe for weaponization and use) is lunacy.


25 posted on 07/08/2014 8:46:01 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: ilgipper
So did we know about the stockpiles? I’ve never heard anything about them. Even from our own side’s leaders.

Not even George Bush or Colon Bowel?

26 posted on 07/08/2014 8:50:32 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Viennacon

That was informative. Thank you.


27 posted on 07/08/2014 8:50:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Viennacon

A ‘Daisycutter’ might solve the problem.


28 posted on 07/08/2014 8:51:17 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bu... bu... but the Duelfer Report (2004) said, “While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG [Iraqi Survey Group] judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.”


29 posted on 07/08/2014 8:51:32 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: MadIsh32

“Indeed1 One would think the US would have done away with these when we occupied Iraq.”

That is my question too. Why did not the Bush administration and then the Obama administration not do away with them?


30 posted on 07/08/2014 8:51:51 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The Iraqi’s must have manufactured them after the America media decided that none existed when we invaded.


31 posted on 07/08/2014 8:54:26 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: steve86

Considering Iraq was making binary mustard and nerve agents, I hope you are right. They had considerable stock piles of mustard and sarin that were produced after the war with Iran. Binary configurations have a pretty long shelf like, far longer than unitary. Iraq spent considerable time and effort refining both. Most were placed in artillery shells, perfect for IED use and easily transported.

During their war with Iran, Iraq was only producing short lived, unitary nerve agents and mustard. It is highly unlikely these are left overs as they would have been destroyed due to their short effective lifespan.


32 posted on 07/08/2014 8:54:40 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Carl Vehse

Yep. I bet my retirement they never set one foot in this facility. They wrote it off, locked the door, forged the report and went home for champagne. If Baghdadi wins the war using these highly valuable weapons, he can chalk his victory up to bureaucratic idiocy at ISG.


33 posted on 07/08/2014 8:55:11 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iraq-says-terrorists-seize-ex-chemical-weapons-site-1.2700541


34 posted on 07/08/2014 8:56:05 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: gop4lyf
The MSM told me that the WMDs didn’t exist. In fact, they still won’t report on these on tbe nightly “news.”

When some leftist enclave gets hit by these weapons, the MSM will suddenly discover all of this.

35 posted on 07/08/2014 8:58:23 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Game changer.


36 posted on 07/08/2014 9:00:08 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Last week there was an article here that Zero was sending Hellfire missiles to Iraq. They must have arrived.


37 posted on 07/08/2014 9:03:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
There were never WMD's in Iraq, until just before Bush left office, when he had the WMD's delivered to Iraq, to be found some day by ISIS.

 

 

 

/s

38 posted on 07/08/2014 9:04:48 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bookmark


39 posted on 07/08/2014 9:05:26 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I have a feeling that the current government of Iraq is trumping this up to get the U.S to bomb Isis.


40 posted on 07/08/2014 9:09:45 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Which side are we on?


41 posted on 07/08/2014 9:13:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Husker24

Then I recommend we wait for Baghdad to get hit with it before we react.

You might be right, but I am spooked by the cruddy way this facility was dealt with during US occupation, the fact that ISIS went to the trouble of capturing it, and the mysterious involvement of the Baathist general Al-Douri who is purportedly working with the Caliph


42 posted on 07/08/2014 9:14:19 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
2,500 chemical rockets filled with the deadly nerve agent sarin

In 1992 the entire city of Tokyo was in stark terror after just 5 fatalities produced by a religious sect armed with just 4 saline bags containing dilute Sarin.

Something like 10,000 worried people flooded into hospitals.

What would 2,500 rockets do..?

43 posted on 07/08/2014 9:14:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: drunknsage

VX is rumored to be present at the facility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_%28nerve_agent%29


44 posted on 07/08/2014 9:15:48 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

and make it international news. somebody in the military est screwed him on this because of Colin Powell. (sp)


45 posted on 07/08/2014 9:19:10 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: jpsb

“I find it hard to believe that the USA would leave WMD’s in Iraq. Not buying this story as written.”

Maybe once the libs went apoplectic about no WMD’s in Iraq, Bush figured one day he would be absolved of all this and the rats would look stupid having to deal with it.

Well, that day is here. The Caliphate now has WMD and we have an open border.


46 posted on 07/08/2014 9:25:42 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Gift from Obama


47 posted on 07/08/2014 9:26:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
"ISIS Has Seized Thousands of Rockets with Chemical Warheads"

Obama: So sue me.

48 posted on 07/08/2014 9:33:39 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

WTH, we didn’t destroy that stuff before we left? Someone needs to be sent to Prison.


49 posted on 07/08/2014 9:35:35 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty ping.


50 posted on 07/08/2014 9:37:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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