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Did the New York Times Just Stumble Across an IRS Motive for Targeting the Tea Party?
redstate.com ^ | 7/8/14 | Matthew Clark

Posted on 07/09/2014 4:41:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle

In its latest liberal rant coming to the aid of the IRS – that poor defenseless government leviathan – it repeats the same tired leftist talking points about the root of all the IRS’s problems being that it doesn’t have enough money.

Yet in doing so, it may have just stumbled across a new motive behind the targeting, good old-fashioned revenge.

He’s what the New York Times calls the “real scandal”:

There is a scandal going on at the Internal Revenue Service, but it has nothing to do with Lois Lerner or her missing emails. . . .

No, the real scandal is what Republicans did to cripple the agency when virtually no one was looking. Since the broad Tea Party-driven spending cuts of 2010, the agency’s budget has been cut by 14 percent after inflation is considered, leading to sharply reduced staff, less enforcement of the tax laws and poor taxpayer service. (Emphasis added.)

So according to the New York Times, the targeting of the Tea Party, which the IRS admitted was wrong and for which it faux-apologized, is a direct result of “the broad Tea Party-driven spending cuts of 2010.”

The Tea Party forced cuts to the IRS budget, and the IRS retaliated by shutting down the Tea Party. Is that it?

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010election; irs; irsfunding; irsmotive; irsscandals; irsspending; irsspendingcuts; irsteapartyscandal; teaparty
Far be it from me to question the "paper of record" (gag, spew, hock), but weren't DemocRATS still in charge of Da House (where tax policy other than ObamaDon'tCare originates) in 2010?
1 posted on 07/09/2014 4:41:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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bump


2 posted on 07/09/2014 4:46:25 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Texas Eagle

“...IRS retaliated by shutting down the Tea Party. Is that it?”

So now we have to apologize to Leviathan for hurting its feelings?


3 posted on 07/09/2014 4:46:40 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Texas Eagle

They’d like us to believe that, now wouldn’t they?

Ain’t gonna happen.

But LIVs will suck it up along with all the other BS they’re spewing...


4 posted on 07/09/2014 4:46:59 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Texas Eagle

They will do anything, ANYTHING, to displace the blame for this from the WHITE HOUSE to Lois Lerner and her ilk solely to protect Obama.

In effect, this is Lois Lerner being kneecapped, forcing a drop to the pavement so the bus can run over her.

I’ll bet she now is in fear for her life and will clam up like Susan MacDougal and take the prison time for not testifying (if it even gets to that).


5 posted on 07/09/2014 4:47:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Texas Eagle

Lois Leviathan took the Fifth. We will never learn the truth.


6 posted on 07/09/2014 4:49:51 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Texas Eagle

You assume that a lie must be free of all truth.

That is not so for the Old Gray Whore. She can lie at will whenever the mood strikes. Ancient truth is irrelevant


7 posted on 07/09/2014 4:51:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yeah the money was so tight the party fund was running dry!


8 posted on 07/09/2014 4:55:09 AM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: Texas Eagle

You mean like when OweBowMao commanded his followers and IRS plants to “Vote for Revenge” just before the 2012 election?


9 posted on 07/09/2014 5:00:50 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Texas Eagle

Thee has never seen a govt agency that has enough money.

Agency managers will find ways to out spend their resources and build an empire that they will get promoted up in. It’s all about personnel enrichment, not being wise with the taxpayer resources.


10 posted on 07/09/2014 5:16:06 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

Our system is broke when the beneficiaries get to vote and give themselves more. Only true taxpayers should have that say.


11 posted on 07/09/2014 5:17:30 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: foreverfree

Well, it’s good to see them admit the IRS was targeting the TEA Party.

Funding issues may have been a motivation but lack of money was certainly not one, as Trey Gowdy points out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpyVdqitrCU


12 posted on 07/09/2014 5:19:27 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Texas Eagle; All
well...it is *spit!* the NEW YORK TIMES

13 posted on 07/09/2014 5:29:27 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: George from New England
In a previous life, I worked for an quasi-agency of the county government. I got fired for reducing their dependence on taxpayer funding from one-third to one-sixth of the total budget while nearly doubling gross revenue.

While that wasn't their official excuse, it was the actual reason. They didn't like the idea of us moving toward a self-sustaining model.

I was young, foolish, idealistic, only 33 years old and honestly thought I was doing a good thing by consuming fewer taxpayer resources.

14 posted on 07/09/2014 5:49:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Texas Eagle

No, that’s not it. It was clearly part of a coordinated effort out of the WH to cripple the TP and assure Obama’s reelection.


15 posted on 07/09/2014 5:55:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Texas Eagle

The same I.R.S. that had no problems giving out bonuses? Nor the same that REGULARLY sends out ‘rebates’ to those whom never should see penny one (at times, multiple checks to the SAME address)? Maybe they should cut back get-aways and Star Trek parodies.

Finally, just how long does it take D.C. to blow through the ‘savings cuts’ (did I read they but $325M down to ~$10B/yr?)....2, maybe 3 hours?


16 posted on 07/09/2014 5:57:18 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Texas Eagle

For the Obama IRS to illegally punish and eliminate any entity that threatens its budget might be more corrupt than Obama using the IRS to stifle general political opponents. Does the NYT propose doing about this?
Or is this just a ploy to redirect attention back to the IRS, now that the role of the Justice Department as instigators is oozing out?


17 posted on 07/09/2014 5:57:50 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Texas Eagle

This is the same IRS that had NO problem sending multiple checks to the same address and money to “dependents” living in Mexico. Bet those never saw one penny cut from their rebates.


18 posted on 07/09/2014 6:06:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Who would not believe that? Bureaucrats are notoriously petty.


19 posted on 07/09/2014 6:07:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Texas Eagle

So, the repubs cut their budget, and they still have money for las Vegas junckets, Star Trek videos and political intimidation? Not buying it........


20 posted on 07/09/2014 6:13:48 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
So, the repubs cut their budget...

Not sure how the 'pubs could've cut anything. They didn't take control of the House until 2011. This story says they cut the budget in 2010.

21 posted on 07/09/2014 6:15:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

As pointed out earlier, multi checks to same address, big bonuses etc.


22 posted on 07/09/2014 6:16:33 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Only in Washington is a 14% cut seen as a draconian, medieval torture level measure beyond which a massive organization cannot function.

Without knowing exactly what the cuts entailed, I’d guess they were reductions in future growth (i.e. Instead of growing 20% in 2014, they were only allowed to grow 10%) rather than ACTUAL cuts.


23 posted on 07/09/2014 6:17:30 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Personal Responsibility

All that notwithstanding, how could the Tea Party have driven anything when the Republican Party didn’t actually take control of the House until 2011. Sure, they won the House in 2010 but didn’t take control until 2011. The first budget they could possibly have influenced was the 2012 budget.


24 posted on 07/09/2014 6:19:50 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

HTTP://WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG

PLEASE DO NOT believe the lies being pushed by the MSM (yeah, like THEY tell the truth about anything) but find out how the FAIRTAX would shrink — and KEEP — fedzilla’s tax collection bureaucracy to less than 1% of its present size and eliminate PERSONAL interactions with INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS!


25 posted on 07/09/2014 6:21:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

In 2012 - after these unthinkable cuts - the IRS budget was still 12 BILLION DOLLARS.

$12,000,000,000

This story is the tax man beating you up, taking your $10 lunch money, having the king force them to give you back a dollar and the tax man taking revenge on you because of that dollar.

They can go...well...you know.


26 posted on 07/09/2014 6:21:36 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: OpusatFR
“...IRS retaliated by shutting down the Tea Party. Is that it?”

So now we have to apologize to Leviathan for hurting its feelings?

The IRS doesn't want us to apologize.

It wants us to die.

27 posted on 07/09/2014 6:24:31 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Dick Bachert
PLEASE DO NOT believe the lies being pushed by the MSM....

Uhhhhhhh, if you'll notice, I have repeatedly pointed out that the Tea Party could not have possibly "driven" anything in 2010 because not even the Republican Party was in power until 2011, let alone The Tea Party.

I'm not sure who you think is believing the lies being told by the Men Seeking Men media, but it's not I.

Nor anyone else on this thread as far as I can tell.

28 posted on 07/09/2014 6:24:49 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Eagle, That was NOT directed at you.

Every FReeper knows of and loves your ideological purity and strong stand for truth, freedom and the American Way!


29 posted on 07/09/2014 6:28:26 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Roger that.


30 posted on 07/09/2014 6:30:10 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: 9YearLurker

Agreed.


31 posted on 07/09/2014 6:36:48 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
The New York Times sucks...

If there was a shred of decency in them they would close their doors, walk to the nearest church, fall on the knees and beg forgiveness for being such enabling fools ....

32 posted on 07/09/2014 6:53:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Remember the oath is to "support and defend the Constitution" not the President.FRrfreedom4u)
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To: Texas Eagle

I did not review the budgets to confirm when the actual IRS “cuts” took place. It’s possible the author typoed on the year. If not, you’re 100% correct.


33 posted on 07/09/2014 6:57:18 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: gitmo

This is not going to be a popular comment, but read through to the end.

She is a great example of why you should never talk to cops.

If she testified truthfully she would go to jail and the administration would fall.

She knew the tracks were covered, and as long as she doesn’t talk the house of cards doesn’t fall.

No personal good ever comes from even casually aiding in an investigation. Even the Miranda warning tells you that anything can be used AGAINST you—not for you—to put you in jail. What sane person would talk to the authorities in that situation.

As the Dem’s say, “This is a teachable moment.”

While I abhor the context of her stonewalling, you have to understand her standing her ground. More republicans in the past should have told the investigators to F-off. Not lie, but just shut up.

The only way she is going to talk is if they put a gun to a close relative’s head, or if the check doesn’t clear to the Swiss bank. I would not be shocked to see her fall down some stairs or have a heart attack out of the blue.

It is the best advice ever from a defense attorney. Don’t do their work for them.


34 posted on 07/09/2014 7:00:38 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Texas Eagle
EPA Claims It Has The Power To Garnish Wages Without Court Approval

How many bullets did the EPA order?

35 posted on 07/09/2014 7:02:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: Texas Eagle

Anyone against the government is a target.


36 posted on 07/09/2014 7:10:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Texas Eagle

So government is now so big and agencies of it are so strong they can go after citizens and retaliate for those who dare advocate spending cuts that would effect their agency. Time to shut them down.


37 posted on 07/09/2014 7:11:04 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Did not get fired, just ridiculed.

I proposed that some of our Youth Authority inmates had parents who could pay for some of the costs of their incarceration.

A year later they came up with the state victims of violent crime fund, which inmates paid into.

Same/same

I had ears that in some pleas you had to pay $90 a month to be on probation, if you were working. circa 1986.


38 posted on 07/09/2014 7:15:53 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Texas Eagle

“So according to the New York Times, the targeting of the Tea Party, which the IRS admitted was wrong and for which it faux-apologized, is a direct result of “the broad Tea Party-driven spending cuts of 2010.”

This is bull crap. It was all on Obamas orders to clear the
way for the democrat and democrat lite party (republican).
I guess Matthew Clark hasn’t realized yet that the so called
republican party knew all along what the Obama was doing
to the TEA party and they just sat there and let it happen.
No the IRS’s attack on conservative republicans wasn’t over
a budget cut, it was all about election fraud.

The last thing we need is some liberal hack, posing as a
conservative making up excuses for the IRS, and covering
for the Obama.


39 posted on 07/09/2014 9:43:28 AM PDT by Slambat
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