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Maryland Hospital Bans Employees From Smoking Anywhere On Earth
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/8/2014 | Tristyn Bloom

Posted on 07/09/2014 6:36:40 AM PDT by rktman

Starting next year, Anne Arundel Medical Center in Annapolis will require potential employees to pass a drug test–detecting nicotine.

This so-called “job screening” will bar any applicants who smoke cigarettes, cigars, pipes, snuff, hookah, and even e-cigarettes from being eligible for employment. While the hospital already has a smoking ban on the premises and surrounding sidewalks, this policy forbids new employees from consuming tobacco anywhere, at any time.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: didiots; pufflist; smokersrights
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Sadly, your off duty hours are apparently no longer yours. Are they going to check for traces of alcohol in your system? Does that mean that you also must never go anyplace where people are smoking because you might inhale some evil 2nd hand smoke that'll show up in your p-test? Will traces of weed be okay? How about parachuting? Can you still do that? Can you go skiing? Can you ride a motorcycle? Might as well set up dorms and have the employees live on site. They're the employer so they can pretty much dictate your terms of employment.
1 posted on 07/09/2014 6:36:40 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Maryland is a hell hole, ruled by Facist Democrats.

So this shouldn’t surprise us.


2 posted on 07/09/2014 6:38:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and His Katrina Moment!)
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To: rktman

I bet they run CNN in 24/7 in the hospital.


3 posted on 07/09/2014 6:38:51 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: rktman

When you interbreed plants you can get some interesting results. Same thing with memes.

Here we see the bastard offspring of the historical Puritanical streak in the country crossed with dictatorial progressivism.


4 posted on 07/09/2014 6:39:20 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rktman

Now is the time. Americans have been groomed for this sort of control. They will quietly submit.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 6:39:21 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: All

They should tell them what to eat too, while they are at it. The employees would be healthier if they stuck to a diet strictly controlled by their employer.

Freedom is dead.


6 posted on 07/09/2014 6:40:00 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: rktman
Sadly, your off duty hours are apparently no longer yours. Are they going to check for traces of alcohol in your system?

Well, in places where recreational pot use is now legal, are you going to restrict that for employees who use it on their own time? Do you seriously want high employees working in such a technical, legally litigious environment? What about other recreational drug use? Does "legal" somehow make something a "right?"

Private employers should be able to restrict whatever they want.

7 posted on 07/09/2014 6:40:41 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: brownsfan

What’s next ... vaginal swabs to detect sexual activity ?


8 posted on 07/09/2014 6:41:02 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: rktman

I suppose even nicorette would show up if they’re testing just for nicotine.


9 posted on 07/09/2014 6:42:36 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Gunpowder green
The employees would be healthier if they stuck to a diet strictly controlled by their employer. Freedom is dead.

Freedom died when the rest of us had to pick up the cost for irresponsible behavior of others.

10 posted on 07/09/2014 6:43:19 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: rktman
They're the employer so they can pretty much dictate your terms of employment.

Unless of course you practice unsafe gay sex in bathhouses in your spare time. In that case, law prohibits them from doing anything except move you to the head of the hiring line.

11 posted on 07/09/2014 6:43:39 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: fwdude
This is hardly news. Many employers won't hire job candidates who smoke. And when larger companies buy out their smaller competitors, it's the smokers who get furloughed...
12 posted on 07/09/2014 6:44:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Well I’m sure it would show up but as long as you are in a “program” to de-program you from the evil cigarettes that is approved by the employer, you may get a pass. Of course if you stay on said program for 3 or 4 years, the might get a little suspicious.


13 posted on 07/09/2014 6:45:50 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Cementjungle

Well, there is that. Probably get a raise for being glbt(gilbert) tolerant.


14 posted on 07/09/2014 6:46:55 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

companies will now HAVE to expand the ban to pot smoking.

Imagine the liability for companies which do not ban employees who pot smoke.

I am surprised insurance companies have not stepped in and denied insurance to anyone who pot smokes (for auto insurance)


15 posted on 07/09/2014 6:47:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: knarf

> What’s next ... vaginal swabs to detect sexual activity ?

Only to ensure it’s same sex activity.


16 posted on 07/09/2014 6:47:08 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: rktman

Yes, it would show up, and probably would cause the person to not be hired or to lose his/her job, even if they said it was to kick the habit. Nicotine is nicotine, in the urine. The ban probably covers ANY nicotine usage.


17 posted on 07/09/2014 6:47:41 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: rktman

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/employers-total-smoking-ban-raises-privacy-concerns

Whoops.

The linked article references Weyco, a private benefits administration firm that banned smoking for their employees anywhere on earth nearly 10 years ago.

We have plenty of freepers all in favor of employment at will (hire and fire whomsoever you choose for whatever reason), and then we have the freepers commenting on this thread.


18 posted on 07/09/2014 6:48:05 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“This is hardly news. Many employers won’t hire job candidates who smoke.”

It’s become quite common with healthcare systems, in particular. This article is from a couple of years ago, so all the data may not be up to date:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/story/2012-01-03/health-care-jobs-no-smoking/52394782/1


19 posted on 07/09/2014 6:48:23 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: ladyjane

Right.


20 posted on 07/09/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: dmz
We have plenty of freepers all in favor of employment at will (hire and fire whomsoever you choose for whatever reason), and then we have the freepers commenting on this thread.

Bingo.

21 posted on 07/09/2014 6:50:12 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I am surprised insurance companies have not stepped in and denied insurance to anyone who pot smokes (for auto insurance)

Or alcohol.

22 posted on 07/09/2014 6:50:21 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: rktman
They're the employer so they can pretty much dictate your terms of employment.

Should they NOT be able to do so? Their business, their money. < /Devil's advocate >

23 posted on 07/09/2014 6:50:57 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rktman

What if a person is using nicotine patches or gum?


24 posted on 07/09/2014 6:51:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rktman
That's the one thing I never got with these policies-

If they can dictate what you do 24/7, why don't they have to PAY you 24/7?

25 posted on 07/09/2014 6:52:26 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: rktman

I am certain this is more about health insurance costs than not. Welcome to one of the results of demanding employers pay/provide for health insurance. Stinks don’t it?


26 posted on 07/09/2014 6:52:32 AM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: rktman

I recall a CDC report from the 1980’s, long since buried, which documented an infectious disease rate among male homosexuals that was far higher than that of the general population.

If cost control for healthcare is the driving factor, shouldn’t employers be able to discriminate against queers as well?


27 posted on 07/09/2014 6:55:07 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Maryland is a hell hole, ruled by Facist Democrats.

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According to a recent poll, nearly half the population of Maryland would leave the state, if they could. This is an indictment against overbearing Democrat policies and taxes.

BTW, Maryland’s tax crazy governor, Martin O’Malley, wants to be your president.


28 posted on 07/09/2014 6:56:51 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: rktman

I applied for a job with the Emporia, KS police department over 20 years ago and they had a no smoking policy - on or off duty. I don’t smoke and never have, but glad I didn’t get the job and still remember that lunacy to this day.


29 posted on 07/09/2014 6:56:58 AM PDT by mykroar (This is an insult to the nation's intelligence and these days, that isn't easy.)
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To: fwdude

I would figure in legal pot states, it should probably be handled like alcohol. Don’t come to work high or drunk, and don’t get high or drunk at work or on lunch; i.e. just like now if you have a couple drinks at home before you sleep, you’ll be sober when you wake up, you can’t smoke so much as to leave you high in the morning.

(I’m an ex-tobacco smoker, and I don’t smoke pot myself. I don’t really approve of legal pot smoking, but, if it was voted to be legal by the people of the state, I don’t know that it’s my place to say they can’t. )


30 posted on 07/09/2014 6:59:42 AM PDT by mavfin (Personal Freedom, Personal Responsibility)
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To: rktman

Will they also check for pot? No, because the left loves pot but hates tobacco.


31 posted on 07/09/2014 7:00:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: dmz
With the high jacking of our language, we get the collateral high jacking of American thought.

Maybe 60 years ago or so, we could say something like, 'nobody would hire a fag', and everybody (fags included) would nod in assent.

NOW, the absolutes don't exist, so .. anybody can hire fags and the fags rejoice

right is wrong and wrong is right.

32 posted on 07/09/2014 7:00:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: rktman

I will find it funny as hell if someone who was/is in support of drug testing for employment gets busted by this. Don’t smoke cigs, have lots of friend who smoke weed and do their jobs perfectly fine.

Any testing of blood, breath or urine without a warrant, should be illegal.


33 posted on 07/09/2014 7:00:37 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Gunpowder green

“They should tell them what to eat too, while they are at it. The employees would be healthier if they stuck to a diet strictly controlled by their employer.”

Actually, in a perverse way, that might be helpful since 90% of the nurses in most hospitals look like Rosie O’Donnell or Oprah Winfrey! Never understood how “healthcare professionals” are seldom “healthy looking.” The companies who make “scrubs” must be a subsidiary of Ahmed the Tentmaker.


34 posted on 07/09/2014 7:00:48 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: ladyjane

So the hospital is right when they ban smoking.

Why all the grousing by others on this thread.... I don’t understand.

You want freedom to smoke? Fine, then don’t work at that hospital.


35 posted on 07/09/2014 7:02:16 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: RedStateRocker

Should read :”IMHO any testing of blood, breath, or urine without a warrant should be illegal.”


36 posted on 07/09/2014 7:03:19 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: rktman

It is interesting logic that will be used against democrats. The gay lifestyle is extremely unhealthy. Abortions are linked to cancer.

So, if I am an employer, I can choose not to hire these persons using the same democrat logic...


37 posted on 07/09/2014 7:04:04 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: NEMDF

There are lots of potentially hazardous and/or unhealthy activities that people engage in. Where does this slippery slope end?

Eating too much ice cream could eventually lead to health problems and an early death. Should that be banned too?

Bottom line: liberals want to control your life, they want to make all the rules, and they want to run the agencies that monitor you.


38 posted on 07/09/2014 7:05:12 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: RedStateRocker

Any testing of blood, breath or urine without a warrant, should be illegal.

______________________________________________

So when your doctor wants to run routine lab tests, he needs to obtain a warrant first?

Honestly! Think before you FReep next time.


39 posted on 07/09/2014 7:07:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rktman

Are they going to check for AIDS? High cholesterol? Diabetes? High blood pressure? Pregnancy? If the argument is that off-hours behavior has a cost to an employer, then all those things can be factors too.


40 posted on 07/09/2014 7:09:17 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rktman

The solution to the problem does not seem all that perplexing to me. Insurance costs should be based on your measure of exposure for the insurance company. Teenage drivers, those with tickets, and those who have had accidents pay more for auto insurance. If you weigh 300 pounds, never exercise, and smoke, you should pay higher premiums than someone who takes care of himself. If you engage in the highest risk factor, male to male anal sex (which is now celebrated in elementary school curriculum), your premiums should be through the roof.


41 posted on 07/09/2014 7:09:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: rktman

Maybe employers should bring back the curfew whistles used by factories here in the USA in the early 20th century. When the economy is bad, employers can do anything they wish...


42 posted on 07/09/2014 7:09:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: rktman

It’s worse than just cigarettes. The electronic records keeping will also show if you’re taking the meds as prescribed, if you’re eating too much fat or too much sugar, etc. How does that work without an implant?

First of all, you’d better purchase those drugs the doctor prescribes whether you take them or not. They know what you’re buying. And that also covers what you’re eating. That little debit card tells them everything. Plus, when they do their regular blood testing they’ll check to see what drugs are in your system.

Freedom no longer rings!


43 posted on 07/09/2014 7:10:47 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
And al-jezeera
44 posted on 07/09/2014 7:11:00 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: IronJack

Employees will me required to submit a diary showing their daily food intake.


45 posted on 07/09/2014 7:11:09 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think he meant employers, not doctors.


46 posted on 07/09/2014 7:11:11 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: doug from upland

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/tabor/050119


47 posted on 07/09/2014 7:11:51 AM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Gunpowder green

See my post above. They DO know what you eat.

Sadly, most will say “Well, it’s for our own good. Besides, President Obama has our interests at heart. He loves us so much!” And that’s just the liberals.


48 posted on 07/09/2014 7:12:41 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: knarf

Only if it is heterosex! Homo Sex is approved!


49 posted on 07/09/2014 7:12:50 AM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well, I didn’t think it necessary to include something so obvious, given the context. Point taken.


50 posted on 07/09/2014 7:13:13 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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