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Car Insurance Companies Want to Track Your Every Move—and You're Going to Let Them
City Lab ^ | July 9 2014 | Leo Mirani

Posted on 07/09/2014 12:11:09 PM PDT by PoloSec

The proposition is simple: Install a device in your car and allow your insurance company to monitor your driving—how fast you drive, how hard you brake, how sharply you corner, and so on. In exchange, it will give you a discount on your premiums.

That might sound alarming, but it shouldn’t be surprising. Considering internet users already happily trade data on every online move they make in exchange for free services, the only surprise is tracking-based insurance isn’t already more widespread. Progressive Insurance, the biggest such insurer in the United States, says it found that

After analysis of billions of miles in driving data, Progressive has found that key driving behaviors—like actual miles driven, braking, and time of day of driving—carry more than twice the predictive power of traditional insurance rating variables, like a driver’s age, gender and the year, make and model of the insured vehicle.

The average discount on premiums for a Progressive customer who agrees to be tracked is between 10% and 15%.

In future, if you don’t agree to be tracked, you may not only pay higher premiums; perhaps you won’t even be eligible for insurance from most companies. It could be like having a shady credit history, or failing to provide the basic “know-your-customer” information required to open a bank account. “In the end, serving the ‘naysayers’ may become a specialty market niche for some carriers,” suggests a recent report (pdf) on usage-base insurance programs from Deloitte.


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1 posted on 07/09/2014 12:11:09 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

This was offered by my insurance company, but I opted to pay the higher premium. F that nonsense.


2 posted on 07/09/2014 12:13:15 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: PoloSec

The Grand Socialist picture. Progressive management is about as far left as you can get, so I am told.


3 posted on 07/09/2014 12:14:35 PM PDT by EagleUSA (()
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To: PoloSec

I would class action them.

Nunyuh....


4 posted on 07/09/2014 12:15:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PoloSec

I’ll do my best to say no to a monitor for as long as possible.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 12:16:33 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: EagleUSA

They’ll tell the InsCo if they think something is wrong, but will they tell YOU? Even if you wanted your life to be a fishbowl, who says the glass isn’t from a fun house mirror?


6 posted on 07/09/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: PoloSec

What is now voluntary will eventually be mandatory.


7 posted on 07/09/2014 12:16:55 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: PoloSec
You're Going to Let Them

I don't think so.

8 posted on 07/09/2014 12:17:17 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PoloSec

I’ve pretty much decided to drive naked from here on. Fines for not having insurance way less than premiums and I only get stopped once every 20 years or so. Insurance status isn’t checked here when purchasing license tabs, etc.


9 posted on 07/09/2014 12:17:55 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: PoloSec

The real goal is to base your vehicle taxes on where and how much you drive.

They experimented with it a few years ago, and got massive negative responses. Now by mandating it through insurance, it is ok (since insurance is a tax/or something)


10 posted on 07/09/2014 12:18:17 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PoloSec
It's interesting that this article only mentions performance data, not location data.

Measuring acceleration/decelaration is one thing, as long as they don't track frequent destinations, driving in "bad" sections of town, etc.

-PJ

11 posted on 07/09/2014 12:19:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: PoloSec

They don’t track where you go. There is no location information recorded, though that could change.


12 posted on 07/09/2014 12:20:06 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Vendome
I would class action them.

Any pre-OBDII system vehicle owner should be able to sue the pants off them for discriminatory practice.

13 posted on 07/09/2014 12:20:16 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: PoloSec
Throw in a.gov kill switch on the black box and we will have a deal!

While I'm at it, the implant in arm monitors my eating, sleeping, and lifestyle habits to get a 'cheaper' rate via ObamaRomneyHeritageCare.

14 posted on 07/09/2014 12:20:35 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: PoloSec
And yet we still aren't allowed to see Ubama's real birth certificate.
15 posted on 07/09/2014 12:21:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Theoria

But it will not mind if you are gay.


16 posted on 07/09/2014 12:23:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: steve86

Did you know that if you are in an accident with no insurance, the other person’s insurance co can and will sue you for every nickel it cost

They will get a judgement and then collect it all bu liens, garnishments and attachments of assets.


17 posted on 07/09/2014 12:23:11 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Vendome
I would class action them.

For offering to buy information from you? Where's the tort?

18 posted on 07/09/2014 12:23:18 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: PoloSec

I’m pretty sick of those commercials with bitch Flo, and the damn lizard too!


19 posted on 07/09/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Lucky9teen

> This was offered by my insurance company, but I opted to pay the higher premium. F that nonsense.

Yes. F this nonsense. You give into that the next thing you know they’ll want to install cares in your house to see what you eat, tell you what type and when you need to exercise, and what you can and can’t eat. The slippery slope just got steeper and they are Teflon’ing the ramp....


20 posted on 07/09/2014 12:24:03 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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