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House Republicans: No to Impeachment, Yes to Boehner Lawsuit
Jerusalem Post ^ | July 9 2014 | Boruch Shubert

Posted on 07/09/2014 1:13:13 PM PDT by PoloSec

Republicans in the House of Representatives have conveyed the message that they would support Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) lawsuit against President Barack Obama for allegedly abusing his powers of executive privilege, even though critics on the right dismiss the move as no more than a political stunt.

Several Republican legislators on Tuesday said the president leaves them with no choice but to sue him, citing executive actions to bypass the gridlocked Congress on issues that include health care, immigration, foreign policy and energy.

Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said he believes the lawsuit is “a very reasonable step to take. We believe the president has been violating the law and going around the law.”

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) said he’s “reluctantly” endorsing the lawsuit, although it’s “unfortunate” Republicans have been pushed to this extreme. “At some point, the president has to listen to the legislative branch and this may be a way to make that happen,” Kinzinger elaborated. “I don’t celebrate this. Any time that we have to go into the courts to settle a dispute shows that the system isn’t quite working as it should at this moment, which is sad to see.”

Boehner has been facing criticism from both the left and the right for planning legislation, which is likely to be brought for a vote this month, that would authorize the House general counsel to sue the Obama administration and “compel” the president to enforce existing laws.

The White House and Democrats have dismissed the lawsuit threat as a political maneuver designed to strengthen Republican support ahead of November’s midterm election. Surprisingly, they have been joined by some conservative commentators, including Erick Erickson, the RedState.com editor who wrote a scathing critique of the lawsuit plan on Monday, arguing that Boehner should “man up” instead. “I realize John Boehner and the House Republicans may lack the fortitude to fight President Obama, but I would kindly ask that he save the taxpayers further money on a political stunt solely designed to incite Republican voters who might otherwise stay home given the establishment’s abandonment of their constitutionally derived powers,” Erickson wrote. “John Boehner’s lawsuit is a Republican waste of taxpayer dollars.”

Sarah Palin also belittled the lawsuit on Tuesday, stating that it was time for Republicans to impeach the president instead. “You don’t bring a lawsuit to a gunfight, and there’s no room for lawyers on our front lines,” the former Republican vice-presidential nominee said. But most rank-and-file Republicans disagreed with her, noting that impeachment was not politically viable, or even appropriate. “This is much more responsible,” said King in regard to the lawsuit, adding that he would “absolutely not” support impeachment. “And no true conservative should, because that destabilizes the government.”

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) pointed to the example of former President Bill Clinton, who was impeached by a Republican-controlled House in 1998 on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice over the Monica Lewinsky scandal, but subsequently acquitted by the Senate. “If we couldn’t get a verdict on the impeachment of Bill Clinton, why would we think we could get one in the United States Senate with Harry Reid as majority leader,” Steve King said. “So that’s off the table.”

For his part, Boehner dismissed the idea when asked last month if his lawsuit was a prelude to impeachment proceedings in the House. “This is not about impeachment,” the House Speaker said. “This is about faithfully executing the laws of our country.” Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) spoke in a similar manner, asserting that the lawsuit is a result of “an overreach on the part of the executive branch.” Impeachment, Bishop said, had a number of problems. “First of all, the last time the House impeached somebody, it made the president more popular,” Bishop stated, referring to the dramatic rise in Clinton’s approval rating following his impeachment. “That should not be the goal — [the president] becomes empathetic and a martyr. Second problem is if the Senate’s not going to pass it, why waste your time? The third one is Joe Biden would be president — that’s no big improvement.”


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1 posted on 07/09/2014 1:13:13 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

The House already has full Constitutional recourse.

There is no need for the legislative branch
to appeal to the judicial branch
to protest abuses of the executive branch.

The House has the power of the purse,
but they fear the scorn of the media.


2 posted on 07/09/2014 1:14:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: PoloSec

Wussies


3 posted on 07/09/2014 1:15:42 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: PoloSec
This is much more responsible,” said King in regard to the lawsuit, adding that he would “absolutely not” support impeachment. “And no true conservative should, because that destabilizes the government.”

Words fail me. Printable words, that is.

4 posted on 07/09/2014 1:17:39 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: PoloSec

It is a stunt.

Nothing more than a PR Symbolic gesture with no teeth.

Smoke and Mirrors.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 1:17:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: PoloSec

IMPEACH Boehner. He’s a tan drunk sissy.


6 posted on 07/09/2014 1:20:05 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: PoloSec

Excellent way for them to be completely ineffective. Who was holding their breath on this one?


7 posted on 07/09/2014 1:20:47 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: PoloSec

Impeachment is a fool’s errand, I’m sorry but it is.

We must NOT NOT NOT make this nincompoop a martyr. That is the one and only thing we could do that would make things worse.

Let History judge him a failure, which she will, but let us not make him a martyr or do anything else that will interfere with that judgment sure to come.


8 posted on 07/09/2014 1:22:20 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: PoloSec

Damnable cowards shirking their sworn duty and trying to foist if off on others. I detest them.


9 posted on 07/09/2014 1:23:10 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: PoloSec

It is rare to see so many run so fast from their duty. The republican “leaders” who we elected once again fold like a cheap deck of cards, their chubby faces stuffed with our money. Hang the lot of ‘em for gross dereliction of duty, extreme cowardice and negligent treason.


10 posted on 07/09/2014 1:23:14 PM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Well said.


11 posted on 07/09/2014 1:25:47 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: PoloSec

......................and................how long will this lawsuit take to even make it to court?

Fellow freepers are right.........It will take as long as it takes to elect more democrats after Obama leaves office...if he leaves.

I understand that once they Obamas) move into your neighborhood they don’t ever leave.


12 posted on 07/09/2014 1:27:59 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: PoloSec

We have the exact situation the Central Oligarchy Party prefers....


13 posted on 07/09/2014 1:28:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: PoloSec
impeachment...destabilizes the government.

Take a look around pal (King), do you not see or even sense that forces are currently hard at work with an agenda that effectively destabilizes the government?

It appears the only thing stopping the current marxist, islamic anti-American who believes our Constitution is fundamentally flawed together with his embedded socialist cohorts, is a 5/4 USSC.

14 posted on 07/09/2014 1:29:21 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all in the same pot.)
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To: Jacquerie

Thank you, kind sir.


15 posted on 07/09/2014 1:29:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: jocon307
After impeachment in '98 the GOP lost seats.

Do we really want to follow the same path again?

My opinion is that impeachment will probably happen but not now. We need a few more scandals (and they will happen) and much greater public support for impeachment. I think Boehner is biding his time.

16 posted on 07/09/2014 1:30:49 PM PDT by what's up
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To: jocon307
Let History judge him a failure

If he stays in much longer, there wont be a history to look back on.
17 posted on 07/09/2014 1:32:13 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: PoloSec

Don’t be stupid, do both.

With the senate held by the democrat party, a thousand pinpricks will have more disruptive effect than doing only one thing at a time or nothing at all.

There are thousands of legitimate reasons to sue and you could submit one valid article of impeachment a day on the kenyan and never run out of fresh articles.

Pounding them with charges is better than what the GOP house is doing now; sucking their thumbs and pouting that “it won’t work anyway so why bother”.


18 posted on 07/09/2014 1:32:26 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: jocon307
I agree, yet with this twist.

Obama has committed high crimes against the constitution.

Dingy Harry would laugh his dementia-self silly if the House presented articles of impeachment.

There is no contradiction between the two.

So, I would better admire any rep who publicly stated that Obama committed high crimes, yet admitted there isn't the political will in congress to do anything about it.

19 posted on 07/09/2014 1:33:34 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Yes. Yes, America needed a useless gesture from the Republicans in the House about now. Many of the unwashed will feel they are doing something. Nothing too drastic, mind you. Republicans are nice people and certainly don't want a fuss. Most assuredly, no matter what their private feelings, they want to give the media absolutely no reason to call them racists, obstructive, or reactionary!

Go Boehner. Go sue the guy. It will make the GOPe safe-seat holders feel better. Hopefully, all of you splendid old fellows will get back to business as usual after the election. That is, you'll get back to dividing up the swag with wonderful Republican Reaches Across The Aisle to the people who control the government.

O yeah, The Death of The Republic? Yes, we must, must I say. take a look at that. Oprime número dos por español. Good-bye now. ¡Adiós!

20 posted on 07/09/2014 1:33:39 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Old Yeller

History will never judge him a failure if the democrats and the public aren’t pounded daily with all of his crimes against the Republic.


21 posted on 07/09/2014 1:33:42 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: PoloSec

Yes to gutlessness...


22 posted on 07/09/2014 1:37:50 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: PoloSec

Anyone still believe “we can’t leave the Republican Party B.S.” ?

We have no opposition party in Washington. This is why we are descending into chaos. How long have we been trying to change the Republican Leadership? Think it’s been around 12 years? Now think what’s the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over, over again and expecting a different result.

The Tea Party has to organize now. I’m sure the few good conservatives left in the Republican Party will jump ship. It’s time to put a real opposition party in Washington.


23 posted on 07/09/2014 1:39:38 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: what's up

I just don’t see how the media will ever turn against him. They never turned against clinton.

Can you begin to imagine if a REPUBLICAN president had been accused of getting b-js in the oval office from an intern...how soon until that hypothetical guy was run out of town on a rail? Do you think we would have read article after article saying it was just “about sex”?

Never, never in a thousand years. We’re stuck with this guy like we were stuck with Clinton (who was basically thomas jefferson compared to Obama).


24 posted on 07/09/2014 1:51:02 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: jocon307
Impeachment is a fool’s errand, I’m sorry but it is.

There is no choice in the matter. He must impeached. Otherwise you are condoning his actions and the country is finished.

25 posted on 07/09/2014 1:54:42 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: PoloSec

Boehner is a huge part of the problem. Too bad we can’t impeach him.


26 posted on 07/09/2014 1:56:36 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: PoloSec
President Barack Obama for allegedly abusing his powers of executive privilege, even though critics on the right dismiss the move as no more than a political stunt.

It is a political stunt. I cannot believe that Americans cannot see that the entire Federal Government is corrupt and most are hard core criminals. King Obama is a small cog in the wheel of communists democrat terrorists. The GOP is not too far behind. America will never recover from the destruction that branches like EPA, IRS, etc, that have such power that they are making the laws.

27 posted on 07/09/2014 2:04:43 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: jocon307

Agreed. Impeachment will not fly. Suing him is silly. A military trial on charges of espionage is the only way to get him out.


28 posted on 07/09/2014 2:10:07 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: PoloSec

Every one of them should be asked whether they believe a breach of duty of obeying the Constitution by Obama has been made.

If there are any that say yes, then they are obligated to impeach as per the same Constitution they themselves swore to uphold.

If they say no, then they must be actively voted out of office this fall as they are unfit for office. They were elected as a check against Presidential Power, among other things, as representatives of the people.

There really is no other choice.


29 posted on 07/09/2014 2:21:15 PM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: jocon307

“Let History judge him a failure, which she will, but let us not make him a martyr or do anything else that will interfere with that judgment sure to come.”

Unbelievably naive on display.

Was it history that removed Hitler from power? Of course not.

What good would historians have done in judging Hitler? Nothing, he laughed at them.

How much damage was done by the idiots like you back then that claimed history will judge him, don’t mess with him.

The ONLY think people like Obama and Hitler understand is power. It is power that must remove him.


30 posted on 07/09/2014 2:28:13 PM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: jocon307

It is all about Sex, Sex, Sex.
31 posted on 07/09/2014 2:29:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: bestintxas

You know, I loathe Obama, but I cannot see him as the equivalent of Hitler.


32 posted on 07/09/2014 2:30:31 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: PoloSec

Let me translate. When they get around to it, the gop wing of the uniparty will spend $50 to file a lawsuit that will get tossed by the courts in short order.

That summarizes what the gop faction of the uniparty is willing to do to “fight” dear leader.


33 posted on 07/09/2014 2:43:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: what's up
I am with you on this.

Impeachment would not succeed today. And it would mobilize Obama's zombie legions who are not energized right now over the mid-term elections.

After the Democrats get creamed in November--and more scandal and incompetence are seen by the sheeple--then the conditions might be more favorable.

My new slogan: Biden for President in 2015!

34 posted on 07/09/2014 2:52:37 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: PoloSec

Kabuki theatre from the oompah-loompah. Not one dime’s worth of difference in the Uniparty.


35 posted on 07/09/2014 3:02:40 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: PoloSec

Maybe bam bam will catch ebola from one of the immigrant kids.


36 posted on 07/09/2014 3:03:54 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: jocon307
...but I cannot see him as the equivalent of Hitler.

See Eugene O'Neill, "The Emperor Jones."

37 posted on 07/09/2014 3:15:15 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Lysandru
.... mobilize Obama's zombie legions who are not energized right now

The beauty of modern vote fraud is that the zombie legionsy are in usable-as-needed data bases. Their actual votes, if they can be found, are pure Democrat gravy.

38 posted on 07/09/2014 3:17:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: PoloSec

peter king is a useless butthead


39 posted on 07/09/2014 3:30:25 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

OK, I will read that!


40 posted on 07/09/2014 3:34:01 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: PoloSec

A lawsuit carries no political risk so of course it’s the preferred step for the GOP.

In addition, they again get to avoid doing their duty and pass along any responsibility to the one branch of government that doesn’t have to face the voters.

Win-win.


41 posted on 07/09/2014 3:34:41 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: jocon307

“You know, I loathe Obama, but I cannot see him as the equivalent of Hitler.”

No one possibly could be that evil, but you see the point hopefully.

YOu do not appease power-hungry people who commit harm to others. You take them out of power.

BTW, Obama commands a much greater entity than Hitler did. Being less evil than Hitler with a much bigger stick, things can come out just as messy.

The way Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and ISIS is surging, don’t think for a minute we could not be soon into WWIII


42 posted on 07/09/2014 4:01:55 PM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: jocon307
I just don’t see how the media will ever turn against him,

The media has already turned somewhat against him. We've had lots of negative stories about Obamacare; Obama's approval ratings are way down; everybody now knows Obama's foreign policy is lousy.

We don't need that many more scandals to drive approval down even more...particularly if they are of a national security nature.

43 posted on 07/09/2014 6:24:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: PoloSec

Let’s see which has the better chance of being a reality? A Boehner lawsuit accomplishing anything including being heard and settled before Obama leaves office, or Hell freezing over. My bet is on Hell freezing over first. Boehner’s lawsuit is like a drunk peeing on himself wearing real dark pants. It gives the person a warm feeling and no one will ever notice.


44 posted on 07/09/2014 6:45:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Lysandru
Evidently, you did not get the memo. National Democrat Ticket 2016:

For POTUS: Joey "Plugs" Biden
For VP: Michelle Robinson (Guns) Obama

Scenario: Immediately after their victory. (Close one. Negro districts must, must I say, turn out 123% of registered voters).... immediately after inauguration, Joey Plugs succumbs to brain infection due to infected hair transplant plugs.

Your new President: Michelle Robinson (you see, she divorces Barry before the campaign ... in public to get woman's sympathy vote. Reggie named as co-respondent.) She'll announce the break-up on Okrah Winfree.

Try and keep up with current events, willya?

45 posted on 07/09/2014 8:15:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Fantasywriter
Even-though-you-lost-Reggie-another-chance-PING!

Get the memo on the National Enquirer hotline ASAP!

46 posted on 07/09/2014 8:19:03 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: what's up

Eh, his approval rates are still what, in the 40s? I think Nixon was in the 20s when he resigned. I can’t believe Obama’s are still as high as they are.

Even accounting for black people, they would get him AT MOST to 20%, so a lot of white libs and/or hispanics are still loving this guy.

I absolutely understand that he deserves to be impeached, but I also understood that he did not deserve re-election.

He won’t be removed from office and like Clinton it will only strengthen him. I don’t know enough about history to have any real understanding of Andrew Johnson’s impeachment but I do know that Nixon was hounded by the press for years and they weren’t the libs then that they are today.

I’m afraid we are stuck with this dope until the end of his term. Let’s not do anything that makes him look good in any way. I’m very much afraid impeachment would do that.


47 posted on 07/09/2014 9:50:45 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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