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Texas Gov. Rick Perry's letter to President Obama on border security
Washington Post ^ | July 9, 2014 | Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)

Posted on 07/09/2014 1:28:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Letter dated May 4, 2012, details problems in Texas related to an influx of unaccompanied children crossing the state's border with Mexico.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegalaliens; invasion; perry
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/before-border-crisis-peaked-texas-governor-warned-obama-administration/2014/07/09/8a646ef6-0773-11e4-bbf1-cc51275e7f8f_story.html?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394

1 posted on 07/09/2014 1:28:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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ARTICLE LINK: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/before-border-crisis-peaked-texas-governor-warned-obama-administration/2014/07/09/8a646ef6-0773-11e4-bbf1-cc51275e7f8f_story.html?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394


2 posted on 07/09/2014 1:30:26 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the federal government won’t do it’s job Perry ought to deport them himself. These immigrants will cost millions to texas taxpayers, and the federal government has no constitutional right to force that burden onto a state.

So will he do it, or is he just too cowardly?


3 posted on 07/09/2014 1:33:12 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why not call up the Texas National Guard to enforce the border which they can do during emergencies within the state.


4 posted on 07/09/2014 1:34:39 PM PDT by maddog55 (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here's a photo of Obama reading the letter.......

"Look...Look...He wrote 'This must stop Mr. President...BWA HA HA HA HA HA!"

5 posted on 07/09/2014 1:35:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dear Mr. President:

F.U. Stronger letter to follow.

Signed,
We the People


6 posted on 07/09/2014 1:38:10 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Governor Perry should issue an order to all welfare type agencies that everyone who applies must be required to prove their citizenship. If they can’t prove it then they get no assistance.

He should also order the arrest and deportation from Texas all federal agents who are not doing their job of enforcement.

Call the National Guard to seal the border and send the bill to the White House.


7 posted on 07/09/2014 1:40:45 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hope Gov Perry shoves this 2 year old letter in that pile of crap, odumbo’s face


8 posted on 07/09/2014 1:50:35 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Cubs Fan
If the federal government won’t do it’s job Perry ought to deport them himself.

Ever since a Federal Marshal was sent to arrest a Governor, if he did not stand aside a few years back, they have been pretty docile. I knew on that day the Constitution was pretty much irrelevant.

9 posted on 07/09/2014 1:50:37 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes. That makes so much sense - like day one.

A letter?


10 posted on 07/09/2014 1:52:29 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: itsahoot
Ever since a Federal Marshal was sent to arrest a Governor...

Details please.

11 posted on 07/09/2014 1:54:15 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Cubs Fan

?
Good Lord
Gov Perry Nor ANY governor can deport or force people out of a state into another country.
Those illegals are NOT under the jurisdiction of a state but rather the federal government.
Please! You need to learn facts because you make silly statements like that.


12 posted on 07/09/2014 1:59:59 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
 photo nostinkinborders_zps90bc7f52.jpg Pedro Obama sends his reply. /s
13 posted on 07/09/2014 2:01:09 PM PDT by RetSignman (obama: "For the love of Alinsky, how much more do I have to do to get them to impeach me"?)
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To: SunTzuWu

George Wallace. It was the wrong issue which is why it went unchallenged, but never the less established that the President could order the arrest of a Governor, of a Sovereign State.


14 posted on 07/09/2014 2:01:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: RWGinger
Please! You need to learn facts because you make silly statements like that.

Gee I wonder how Oklahoma got away with that, you better call Obozo and tell him.

15 posted on 07/09/2014 2:03:11 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hope it wasn’t written in Cursive.


16 posted on 07/09/2014 2:05:50 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

lol

I hope it was.


17 posted on 07/09/2014 2:06:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Perry is such a phony on the immigration/border issue, so it is hard to take him seriously. It is ALL posturing.


18 posted on 07/09/2014 2:12:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: maddog55

You ask
‘Why not call up the Texas National Guard to enforce the border which they can do during emergencies within the state.”

A Gov can call the NG to defend state borders but can’t call the NG to defend a national border which is what the southern border is.


19 posted on 07/09/2014 2:12:16 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: itsahoot

? Oklahoma deported people to another country?
please tell me when


20 posted on 07/09/2014 2:15:55 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: montag813

What is Gov.Perry’s letter is ‘ phony’?


21 posted on 07/09/2014 2:19:09 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

State Active Duty (SAD)
The Governor can activate National Guard personnel to “State Active Duty” in response to natural or man made
disasters or Homeland Defense missions. SAD is based on State statue and policy as well as State funds.

Soldiers and Airmen remain under the command and control of the Governor. A key aspect of this duty status is that the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply, giving National Guardsmen the ability to act in a law enforcement capacity within their home state or adjacent state if granted by that state’s Governor.

I would think Homeland Defense covers his ability and also for law enforcement within their home state.

Title 32 Full Time National Guard Duty can be called upon by the Governor with the approval of the POTUS.


22 posted on 07/09/2014 2:39:21 PM PDT by maddog55 (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: maddog55

Yes a governor can protect his state as needed
The border in question is a national border
The illegals sneaking in are under federal authority.
A state’s authority does not trump federal authority especially in this instance.


23 posted on 07/09/2014 2:54:02 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: itsahoot
Actually the Marshall's did not arrest Wallace and did not attempt to. When Federal troops later arrived at that school house door Wallace (cowardly) stepped aside and offered no resistance.

It would be worth it to force Obama to use US soldiers, soldiers who sworn an oath to protect the Constitution and the US, to protect illegal aliens as they illegally cross our border from Americans who only want to law obeyed.

Perry should deport the illegals and force the issue.

24 posted on 07/09/2014 2:56:13 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RWGinger
Gov Perry Nor ANY governor can deport or force people out of a state into another country.

So what? Do it anyway. Obama is breaking the law by not deporting this people and is going to ruin the country.

"[a] strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means." - President Thomas Jefferson

25 posted on 07/09/2014 2:59:08 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RWGinger
A State can engage in war during invasion. This is most certainly a invasion.

Secondly, the Feds do not have the power to take over a local school. This is a State vs. Fed issue and Perry is beyond weak, but typical of Texas governors.

They can go hang out on Federal 'property'.

26 posted on 07/09/2014 3:18:10 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

I would love it if Perry did it but reality is he can’t and you know that.
read your own sig line


27 posted on 07/09/2014 3:20:29 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Actually the Marshall's did not arrest Wallace and did not attempt to.

Actually they told him they would arrest him if he didn't step aside, and the coward did. I watched it live on my 17 inch black and white TV.

The Governors will do nothing to reclaim their 19th amendment power, so I have no respect for any of the cowardly republicans.

Some here should remember how we were told by Perry, we had no heart if we didn't want to pay for illegals education.

28 posted on 07/09/2014 3:50:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: RWGinger
Oklahoma deported people to another country?

Not another country, different state, they left on their own because of new laws they passed.

A fence is not necessary just make it hard to make a living if you are illegal.

29 posted on 07/09/2014 3:57:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Theoria

Can a state declare war?

Look I live here and I see the disaster that pile of crap odumbo is creating but I also see reality

Those who shout for the Texas Guard to close the border.
HOW?
would you have the soldiers fire on the people crossing over?
Stop them by shoving them back? Shove the kids back across the border?
REALLY?
Please Think
Until we get someone in the WH who cares we are screwed


30 posted on 07/09/2014 3:59:11 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
Yes, only Congress and a State can opt into War.

As for the details of what Perry can do.

Use the Nat Guard to enforce the border. Yeah, you send the kids back. There are millions of kids just like this all over the world, these kids are no different.

Do what .gov is doing and transport the illegals to DC, and drop them off. That will get some attention.

Drop any State help to the Feds in the form of shelters, schools, and other resources until more enforcement is brought forth.

31 posted on 07/09/2014 4:11:56 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: RWGinger

Are you a moron or GOPe operative?

Perry can deport these illegals and if Obama or anyone else doesn’t like it, tough crap, take it to court.


32 posted on 07/09/2014 4:17:31 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: rfreedom4u

I was reading that the Governor does have the right to order the National Guard to protect the Borders. However, the President can then “Federalize” those troops and order them back off the border. Once the troops are Federalized, they have to obey the President’s orders.

I can see Obama trumping any Governor’s call up of National Guard to the border.


33 posted on 07/09/2014 5:14:16 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Engedi

All the more reason for governors who actually care about Americans to call out the Guard!

Make the President reveal his hate-America actions again with the lights on.


34 posted on 07/09/2014 5:17:35 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cubs Fan

Really?
cite the authority under which a state, ANY state can deport an person to another country.
Please cite authority?
Those of us who live here and see the consequences of that vile POS odumbo hate IT
But for you to keep spewing stupid chit doesn’t help

SHOW ME ANY AUTHORITY THAT ANY STATE ALONE CAN KICK ANYONE OUT WHO IS UNDER FEDERAL AUTHORITY.
SHOW IT
OR STFU


35 posted on 07/09/2014 5:40:14 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Can you show me where the federal government has the authority to not enforce federal laws?

You’re a total GOPe idiot aren’t you? Perry can throw these people out if he wants, only a court can stop him.

BTW did I tell you that you are a certified GOPe idiot I really hope so, because you most definitely are.


36 posted on 07/09/2014 6:01:01 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: itsahoot

Thank you.


37 posted on 07/09/2014 7:18:49 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Cubs Fan

Nice display of civility. You know you are wrong on what a state governor can do so you resort to insults.

Did it make you feel better?

It doesn’t change what a governor of any state has the authority to do. The name of the governor does not matter. The same thing could be said about Brewer, Martinez or Brown.


38 posted on 07/10/2014 7:42:13 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
Nice display of civility.

You were the first to hurl insults, and now you have the nerve to cry about it. Wow what a sad little GOPe hypocrite you are.

It doesn’t change what a governor of any state has the authority to do.

It doesn't change the fact that the Federal government has the duty to enforce immigration laws, and if they won't do it then that needs to fall elsewhere.

Like I said. Perry or any other governer can put them on a plane out until a court says he can't.

You see it's because of GOPe idiots like you that Obama and co are winning, you defend them for doing whatever they want even if its illegal and or unconstitutional and then you say our side cannot fight back.

39 posted on 07/10/2014 8:51:03 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Cubs Fan

How would a Governor get the illegals from federal control?

Fire on the feds?


40 posted on 07/10/2014 9:17:06 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

how does the militia defend the border, they have no “authority” to do it?

How did militias defend the bundy ranch. They had no “authority” to do it?

How would a state in the 1780s have reacted if a tyrannical president forced them to accept invaders? they would have said no. And they would have done whatever it takes to demonstrate that sentiment.

This country was built on courage, not little GOPe panty wastes like you who say we can’t do anything about anything. If people like you had been in charge we’d still be a british colony.


41 posted on 07/10/2014 9:24:24 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Cubs Fan; Norm Lenhart; KC_Lion
This country was built on courage, not little GOPe panty wastes like you who say we can’t do anything about anything. If people like you had been in charge we’d still be a british colony.

Now you've done it. You have upset the UNIPARTY Mickey Mouse Club.

42 posted on 07/10/2014 9:41:01 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Cubs Fan

What exactly did the ‘ militia” do at the Bundy ranch?
Did they physically attack the feds? or touch the feds in any way?
NO they made a great show of people not willing to let the feds walk all over them.
and it was a tremendous victory for the people

but you suggest we or militia or state guard physically take people away from federal control.

Do you live in Texas?
Are you willing to go to the border with a weapon and take people out of federally controlled centers and then shove them into the Rio Grande?
OR are you ok with other people going to the border and physically stopping people from coming in? or taking people out of detention centers at gun point?

What state do you live in?

It sounds all heroic and stuff but it is not reality?


43 posted on 07/10/2014 9:46:42 AM PDT by RWGinger
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Perry can deport these illegals ...

**************

Perry doesn’t have custody of the illegals. They are being held by the Federal Gov’t by either
the Border Patrol or the Department of Human Services neither of which are under
the control of the Gov. of Texas.

When the illegals cross the middle of the Rio Grande river they are in the US, state
of Texas. Does any other governor of any of the remaining 49 states deport the illegals
within their state lines? If all 50 governors could do that and did then we may have
a solution to part of the problem.

However the #1 major problem is blocking them from coming in to start with. My suggestion
is to change the deportation rules for these types of illegals, give them a meal,
send them back to where they came from and tell them to fill out the proper immigration
papers. And finally start building the border barriers immediately.


44 posted on 07/10/2014 9:54:58 AM PDT by deport
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To: RWGinger

There’s lots that perry could do, he could tell the feds if they aren’t going to do their job to get out. He could refuse to have illegals in his state. He could back the militias and protestors when they block buses. He could That’s just a few examples.

BUT then Perry has been a GOPe doormat on immigration before wasn’t he? Yes he was http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44675117/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/how-immigration-blew-rick-perry/


45 posted on 07/10/2014 9:54:59 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Cubs Fan

So Perry tells the feds to leave?
and they don’t leave which they won’t, then what?
Back what protestors and militia who are trying to stop what buses?
hey we want the buses to roll since they are taking the illegals away from Texas.
BTW so far there haven’t been any protestors blocking any buses.

It is easy and simple to say, do this, do that
but you need to think ahead.
so a Gov sends the state guard to the border. and one of them tries to stop a federal border agent from taking an illegal into custody and gets killed>
I guess that is ok with you?
or say these guards you want to go into feral centers and take illegals to deport shoots and kills a fed who have drawn his weapon
each Americans doing their jobs but one kills the other
are you ok with that?
how many are you ok with dying to make your point?


46 posted on 07/10/2014 10:29:43 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

So why is rick perry writing letters to Obama (strongly worded too, like Hanz Bricks would do I’m sure!) Instead of doing something real?

Flashback—perry calls anyone who doesn’t agree with illegals in state tiuition as “heartless”— derails own 2012 presidential campaign-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3178438/posts


47 posted on 07/10/2014 11:24:22 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: RWGinger

this country was built on courage and action not cowardice and cries of victimization.

Imagine if the founders of this country had had your attitude

“wah wah, the british are our bosses, we can’t do anything to stop them, wah wah.”

If people like you and the rest of the GOPe had your way we’d still be a british colony.


48 posted on 07/10/2014 11:27:52 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Texas Gov. Rick Perry's letter to President Obama on border security-

Strongly worded, just like Hans Bricks would send!!!!

49 posted on 07/10/2014 11:35:49 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Cubs Fan

So if the state militia killed a federal agent or vice versa which one would be the coward?


50 posted on 07/10/2014 11:54:51 AM PDT by RWGinger
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