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It Begins… US Citizen Goes to Jail for Collecting Rain Water
Gateway ^ | July 9, 2014 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 07/09/2014 1:57:01 PM PDT by george76

Gary Harrington, the Oregon man convicted of collecting rainwater and snow runoff on his rural property, went to jail today.

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Gary Harrington will be serving in jail until September 2014 for collecting rainwater.

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“I’m sacrificing my liberty so we can stand up as a country and stand for our liberty,” Harrington told a small crowd of people gathered outside of the Jackson County (Ore.) Jail.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: agenda21; epa; esa; govtabuse; greenagenda; privateproperty; propertyrights; rainwater; rewilding; ruralcleansing; sagebrush; sagebrushrebellion; unagenda21; water; waterrights
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1 posted on 07/09/2014 1:57:01 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Maybe I need to get rid of the birdbath in my backyard...


2 posted on 07/09/2014 1:59:16 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: george76

They declared his property a wetland, so removing rainwater is “endangering” it. It doesn’t matter that the fire department relies on his supply of water as an emergency backup.


3 posted on 07/09/2014 1:59:29 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: george76
He is not an innocent, or a victim.

Water rights and the laws involving them are complex, but they have existed for centuries for a reason.

In the Founders' day, a farmer who dammed up a creek to prevent his neighbors herds or crops from being watered would be in a heap of legal trouble.

4 posted on 07/09/2014 2:01:13 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: george76

I used to collect the snowmelt to use for watering my carnivorous plant terrarium for my kids many years ago.

Better lock me up.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 2:02:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
That is not the case.

This is not about environmentalism, but about water rights - specifically about Harrington diverting water from the Big Butte River.

6 posted on 07/09/2014 2:03:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: RandallFlagg

How many thousands of gallons of that snowmelt did you store on the reservoirs you built on your property?


7 posted on 07/09/2014 2:04:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: george76

Didn’t they have a bucket brigade protest some years back over silly regs? Do we need a rain barrel one too?

THis is sickening, we have become a nation that is nitpicking itself to death.


8 posted on 07/09/2014 2:06:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: george76

So that county has 90 days at wha? 100 dollars a day to waste incarcerating him?

Meanwhile terrorist training camps there and elsewhere get? no attention

Strange world


9 posted on 07/09/2014 2:08:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: george76

This story is almost 2 years old. Why is Gateway Pundit posting it now?


10 posted on 07/09/2014 2:08:46 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: george76

I have thought of building a “stealth water reclamation system into my gutters to siphon it into the backyard into a giant tank for use for watering my lawn.

Just the water off my roof mind you.


11 posted on 07/09/2014 2:09:57 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: george76

Is the EPA the New Gestapo


12 posted on 07/09/2014 2:12:00 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: NormsRevenge
That was the exact opposite situation.

That was the federal government arbitrarily preventing farmers from continuing to enjoy the benefits of local water flow on environmentalist grounds.

This is a private individual stealing 13 million gallons of water from his neighbors, and the state government won't let him get away with it.

13 posted on 07/09/2014 2:12:18 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: molson209

This has literally nothing to do with the EPA.


14 posted on 07/09/2014 2:14:18 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: NormsRevenge

So he should be allowed to commit grand theft with impunity?


15 posted on 07/09/2014 2:15:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GraceG

13 million gallons of water falls on your roof?


16 posted on 07/09/2014 2:15:46 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: george76

Take it to the supreme court and make them Pay!


17 posted on 07/09/2014 2:16:33 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: FrankR

18 posted on 07/09/2014 2:16:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: wideawake

13 million gallons of water falls on your roof?

Milliliters maybe...


19 posted on 07/09/2014 2:18:20 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: MaxMax

“Your honors, Justices of the US Supreme Court, my client stole hundreds of thousands of dollars of other people’s property, and now he’s going to jail! We want justice!”


20 posted on 07/09/2014 2:19:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; george76

Thanks for the key info, wideawake!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3178071/posts?page=6#6

George76,

this guy is diverting water from a stream/river... NOT from his roof into rainbarrels....


21 posted on 07/09/2014 2:19:42 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: wideawake

It’s a little more complicated, since he’s not diverting any tributaries, just rainwater on his property. Maybe that’s too fine a point, though.


22 posted on 07/09/2014 2:20:29 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: george76

Oregon is a heavy leftist state.

I’m curious who this fellow has voted for over the years.


23 posted on 07/09/2014 2:20:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: GraceG
Just the water off my roof mind you.

That's not your roof.

You didn't build that roof on your own.

You had help.

The people built the road the roofing truck travelled on.

The democrat and republican politicians in Washington worked hard to make it possible for illegals to come into the country to work for the roofing contractors.

The Mexican illegals who worked for the roofer hauled the shingles up and nailed them down.

/s

24 posted on 07/09/2014 2:21:30 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: wideawake
He is not an innocent, or a victim.

Water rights and the laws involving them are complex, but they have existed for centuries for a reason.


How do you know he is not innocent or a victim?

Do you have personal knowledge about this case?

Do you have any experience in this issue?

Are you a rancher or a farmer?

Or are you just here to be a contrarian to issues that are important to conservatives?
25 posted on 07/09/2014 2:21:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: george76

I don’t know, they have two vastly different stories. They say he’s diverting a stream, which means he’s not in jail for collecting rain water. In AZ they prefer you collect rain water, better than running off with whatever pollution it collected from your property.


26 posted on 07/09/2014 2:22:49 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: wideawake

He’s not damming a creek. He’s doing something that was done for centuries. He’s collecting rain.

The EPA is using his case as a test case to argue that citizens only have right to the water they are given.


27 posted on 07/09/2014 2:23:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SoConPubbie; wideawake

Sorry wideawake, should have read before I posted.


28 posted on 07/09/2014 2:24:09 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: wideawake
You are part of the problem, and your sarcasm is not the solution.

You are so far out there that discussion isn't possible.

29 posted on 07/09/2014 2:25:32 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: george76

Harrington should go to jail on this issue.

Just because water runs through his property does not give him the right to do whatever you want with that water, build reservoirs to dam it up, and keep it from flowing to his neighbors.


30 posted on 07/09/2014 2:31:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

By your own definition the water neither belongs to those downstream as well.


31 posted on 07/09/2014 2:33:18 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax
No, Harrington is part of the problem and you are blind and clueless.

It's hilarious how free riders and thieves like Bundy and Harrington pretend to be conservatives, and get gullible idiots to donate to them and defend them.

You just got took by a shyster.

32 posted on 07/09/2014 2:37:14 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: MaxMax

And who said it did??


33 posted on 07/09/2014 2:37:54 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Jonty30
The EPA has no role in this. At all.

Where do you think creeks and rivers come from? That they appear by magic?

Rainwater is a key source of most running waters.

Diverting rainwater into multimillion gallon reservoirs is identical in effect to damming up a creek.

34 posted on 07/09/2014 2:40:12 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SoConPubbie

Harrington sounds sympathetic until you read more about him. I was sympathetic to this crook at first too.


35 posted on 07/09/2014 2:43:11 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

He did NOT dam up a creek.

He collected water that fell on his property.

Just because the rain on your roof ends up in the ocean, doesn’t mean your rain gutters are diverting a river.


36 posted on 07/09/2014 2:45:31 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: george76

The goose steppers on the move. No longer America.


37 posted on 07/09/2014 2:51:42 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: G Larry
He diverted 13 million gallons of rainwater into reservoirs on his property.

This is not "rain on his roof" - learn more about the case before you defend a thief.

38 posted on 07/09/2014 2:55:06 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
He diverted 13 million gallons of rainwater into reservoirs on his property. This is not "rain on his roof" - learn more about the case before you defend a thief.

If he is a thief, that means he stole this water. Who did he steal it from? To whom did it belong before he stole it?

39 posted on 07/09/2014 3:09:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Is it 2016 already!?!


40 posted on 07/09/2014 3:11:03 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

People down stream.


41 posted on 07/09/2014 3:12:19 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: wideawake
I'm beginning to believe that now you're just trolling to anger people.

If this man wants 30-million gallons of water he should have that right.
Water is a renewable resource and his pond caused nobody any harm what-so-ever.
No cattle died of dehydration, no dam eruptions mowing down homes, nothing.

To call somebody a thief is purely irrational in this situation.
You must have a reason for this attack on somebody using
his property as he sees fit. Care to share that reason?

42 posted on 07/09/2014 3:12:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: wideawake

Grand theft of what is FALLING on his property?

That’s retarded. Even from you...


43 posted on 07/09/2014 3:14:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: discostu

Do they have a receipt for rain water that fell on someone else’s property?

No?

Guess it isn’t theirs then.


44 posted on 07/09/2014 3:18:34 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: MaxMax
It is a matter of law, and has been for hundreds of years, that you are not allowed to dam the flow of water to prevent it from reaching downstream from your property.

This is no different from damming up a creek, or digging a watercourse on your property that drains another person's pond onto your property.

And spare us the ridiculous argument that his crime "hurt no one."

If I went onto a farm and stole a bushel of corn, could I argue "Hey, this farm produces 3.4mm bushels each season, they probably lose dozens of bushels to wastage when they harvest."

He broke the law, he took 13 million gallons of water he had no legal title to, and he paid the price.

45 posted on 07/09/2014 3:21:34 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dead Corpse

He’s not arrested for rain water. He’s arrested for diverting stream water:
The Oregon Water Resources Department, claims that Harrington has been violating the state’s water use law by diverting water from streams running into the Big Butte River.

HE keeps insisting it’s just rain water and snow melt, which I suppose has some level of technical accuracy since that’s what streams are made of. But when a stream originate OFF your property and continues OFF your property you don’t get to take it. It’s a public property stream. These are old laws, and he broke them.


46 posted on 07/09/2014 3:21:51 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’m sorry, but unsurprised, that you know absolutely nothing about how water rights work.


47 posted on 07/09/2014 3:22:33 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dead Corpse

Does he have a receipt for the water he’s holding? No? Then I guess it isn’t his then, and anyone else can just take it.


48 posted on 07/09/2014 3:24:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: discostu

He built reservoirs on his own property.

And? It still only catches the water that falls on his land to begin with.

Interesting you are only taking the governments word as gospel.

Long track record of telling the truth from the government... Right?


49 posted on 07/09/2014 3:25:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: wideawake

I’m sorry you’ve never seen a government “law” you wouldn’t cheerlead for...


50 posted on 07/09/2014 3:26:30 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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