Skip to comments.Open thread: Obama to deliver statement at 6:45 ET feigning interest in border crisis
Posted on 07/09/2014 3:19:39 PM PDT by lilyramone
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Believe me, I wish I could be surprised.
Perry has the opportunity to become a major historical figure, if he is bold and decisive.
Well yes I am sure any Governor would tell Obama that border enforcement is a federal responsibility and the federal government needs to act and do its job. Of course O spins it to imply governors are telling him to act without Congress via EOs and grant amnesty. Just more lies by Obama.
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Cruz on Fox, now...
All the Dallas news is showing is Perry caving and greeting Obammy like a rock star....sickening...
I watched the President press conference and my blood was simmering within minutes. I finally concluded once and for all that he is just ONE GLIB FATHER RAPER!
he will ask for more money to secure the border... then use that money to provide free food, housing, medical care, and transportation to a city near you!
Dont give him a penny!
I don't look at Fox. What was the gist of what Cruz said?
On Monday Cruz sounded quite weak on the border crisis when talking to Mark Levin. It was the very first time I was disappointed in what Cruz had to say.
We are about to truly lose our Republic. We need leaders who can recognize the gravity of the situation and respond accordingly.
If Perry did say that, then I applaud him. It’s certain that the feds aren’t interested in cleaning up the southern border!
They didn’t show the part where Perry got on the chopper ahead of the putz in chief.
Perry could stop this thing in less than a week.
Put the Texas National Guard on the border, stop illegals from crossing and keep them on the Mexican side of the border for Mexico to deal with.
Mexico will shut off the flow of illegals crossing THEIR Southern border in an instant
And the ROE: Shoot back, Shoot back to Kill, if you see or hear a gun, SHOOT TO KILL!
Not sure that would be the appropriate response. These kids need to be sent home to their families .
It is the correct, compassionate and humanitarian thing to do and e=we need to do the right thing
He should include (send) State Public Health professionals too.
Get your mug off the damn TV and get off of Twitter and do your damn job!
The Tea Party sent you to Washington to save our Republic, not to go on TV and talk. I’m sick to death of TALK!
Why in the hell is Perry asking Obama for permission to do his damn job!!
Oh my God my head is going to explode.
Perry, call out the NG!!!
My God we’re overrun with freaking cowards.
>>Yes,a governor can call up his own national guard. But,when it isnt a federal call up,then the Fed doesnt pay their costs (pay,benefits, operational costs,etc)...the state pays. That gets expensive very fast.<<
Well isn’t Perry always talking about how great Texas is doing?
If he doesn’t call them up, then he is failing to hold up his oath of office same as Obama. That goes for the other Governors as well.
I missed the Kelly File & the replay also. What did Sen Ted Cruz have to say.
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It can't possibly cost that much to charter a few planes to take them back home. Maybe, along the way, they can be educated a bit about human trafficking, and what is *really* awaiting them at the hands of coyotes if they are allowed to leave the centers where they are now being housed.
I can see Governor Perry trying to get the US government to assume its responsibility. My memory says that about 3 operational division sized elements in the field in Afghanistan has cost billions.
I remember more than a decade ago a division+ at an installation costing about a billion a year, and that was with limited training operations throughout the year. (I’m not talking pay and benefits.) Granted there are no installation costs, but still it would be double that by now. And So, for a year of a highly mobilized force of about 2000 on a 1000 mile border with one man covering one mile and having one replacement every 12 hours, we’re talking about 100-200 million a year in operational cost and another 200 million in salary and benefits costs.
A half billion a year out of state coffers is a big hit for any state. Obama, on the other hand, asks Congress for 3.2(?) billion for handling this ‘border issue’. I assume that’s for a year.
-——It can’t possibly cost that much——
You failed to consider that the Democrat party is a criminal enterprise who’s purpose is to loot the treasury. After taking 25% off the top, an additional 40% will be consumed in legal fees during the proceedings and administrative costs for maintenance during the legal wrangling. Democrat apparatchiks will do the administering and legal wrangling.
Bert - you’re seeing the children as one more democrat slush fund? You might be right...
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Mexico & Guatemala announce agreement to make illegal passage to U.S. easier
Wed, Jul 9th 2014 @ 11:27 am EDT
Earlier this week, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference to formally announce a new program that will allow Guatemalan citizens to legally travel through Mexico in their effort to enter the United States illegally. Guatemala is one of three sending countries accounting for most of the illegal aliens coming across the U.S.-Mexico border during the ongoing surge. The agreement grants Guatemalans 72 hours of legal status while they make their journey to the U.S.
I was unable to attend this call to worship.
IF THE CONGRESS GIVES HIM THIS $4 BILLION I AM DONE WITH NATIONAL ELECTIONS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. IT WILL BE ASSISTED SUICIDE, ASSISTED THAT IS BY THE GELDING OLD PARTY.
And there will be plenty of the Galloping Crud to go around for everyone.
“Once people get those diseases they can be denied treatment by Obamacare! Yippee!!!”
No our vets and wounded warriors will get even less money for their care. The rest of us will have higher deductibles to help pay for the treatment of these poor kids in our health system.
Children with mustaches! They must be taking hormones or sumptin./s
....”I can see Governor Perry trying to get the US government to assume its responsibility”......
Are you kidding! Perry’s been singing that ‘same tune’ for years now.....’the fed gov isn’t doing their job’ as if it’s new news.
Perry’s known for years the gov is not going to call out anyone to protect the border..as it needs to be...and Perry’s shown he will not assume the responsibility either. They all throw more money at it and then funnel it every place but where it would do the job of stopping the illegals.
They don’t close it because they don’t want to...and they don’t enforce the laws already in place because they don’t want to. It’s that simple. None want to spend the money where it matters to the people rather what will continue to let them do just enough to say they’re ‘trying’ ...
....”Perry could stop this thing in less than a week....Put the Texas National Guard on the border, stop illegals from crossing and keep them on the Mexican side of the border for Mexico to deal with”.....
It’s pretty apparent nobody’s going to do more than “talk” about the problem and throw more money at it rather than stop this.
They ALL talk about immigration reform....and blame both parties when in fact they’ve ALL had years to enforce the laws and choose not to...to act and choose not to.
It’s the same old song sung one administration after the other...the real plan is to stall off the American people and give just enough to keep them appeased. That they’ve been successful at doing.
Americans still “on the ride”.....
League City, Texas bans illegals:
RESOLUTION NO. 2014-_______
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND SECURITY OF OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY; AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT
WHEREAS, the citizens of League City, Texas recognize their duty as law-abiding citizens to act in accordance with the U.S. Constitution and the Texas Constitution, and agree that their right to life, liberty, and property shall not be infringed; and WHEREAS, the federal government has failed to protect the homeland in accordance with Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, Texas has the right and obligation to protect its citizens in accordance with Article 1, Section 1 of the Texas Constitution:
Freedom and Sovereignty of State.
Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the
right of local self- government
unimpaired to all the States.
And is supported by Article 1, Section 29 of the Texas Constitution:
Provisions of Bill of Rights Excepted from Powers of Government; To Forever Remain Inviolate.
To guard against transgressions of the high powers herein designated, we declare that everything in this (Texas) Bill of Rights is excepted out of the general powers of government, and shall forever remain inviolate, and all laws contrary thereto, or to the following provisions, shall be void.
WHEREAS, the citizens of League City Texas are greatly concerned regarding the ongoing massive influx of illegal aliens seeking unauthorized entry to the United States; and
WHEREAS, it is estimated that more than 90,000 minors will arrive in the United States during the 2014 fiscal year and an additional 145,000 illegal alien minors in 2015 fiscal year, with most expected to remain in Texas cities and communities; and
WHEREAS, the leaders of League City question the impact that the sudden influx of school-age illegal minors will have on our Independent School Districts (ISD) educational funding, school resources, campus security, and health safety for our children; and
WHEREAS, health advisories report that many illegal aliens suffering from diseases endemic in their countries of origin are being released into our communities; and
WHEREAS, the federal government is actively seeking more locations within Texas towns and counties to accommodate the unprecedented overflow of illegal aliens and unaccompanied minors; and
WHEREAS, the increasing volume of illegal aliens is already bankrupting some cities and counties in the State of Texas by overwhelming the local medical, educational, law enforcement, and judicial systems; and
WHEREAS, members of dangerous transnational criminal organizations and radical Islamic terror groups continue to exploit the situation to infiltrate the United States for the purpose of establishing criminal activity, terror cells, and training operations within our homeland; and
WHEREAS, without a secure border Texas cities and communities cannot protect the health and safety of their citizens; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS, as follows:
Section 1. That all agencies of the City of League City are instructed to refuse requests or directives by federal agencies to permit or establish any facility for the purposes of processing, housing, or detaining any illegal aliens, designated as refugee or otherwise.
Section 2. That in order to control the potential threat of communicable diseases reported to be prevalent among illegal aliens, all appropriate agencies of the City of League City are instructed to prudently exercise the Citys police power in any manner necessary to protect the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of League City.
Section 3. We hereby appeal to our state legislators and elected officials for action and accountability to urgently address the continuing influx of illegal aliens across our border.
Through State executive and legislative actions demand that the Federal government provide additional resources for new and/or existing Border Patrol checkpoints, and employ a contiguous physical barrier where strategically prudent.
Demand the Texas State Legislature to enhance state smuggling and human trafficking laws, and provide civil liability protections for Texan land owners against criminal trespassers.
Demand the Texas State Legislature abolishes any and all state-controlled or sponsored magnets that exacerbate the problem of rampant illegal immigration, such as (but not limited to): in-state tuition subsidies, welfare benefits, and free non-emergency health care for illegal aliens.
Require the State to perform a cost/benefit analysis of the illegal alien presence and report that cost to Texas taxpayers and state agencies.
Pass legislation to prohibit sanctuary cities which restrict law enforcement from determining the immigration status of detainees after the commission of a crime within our communities.
Section 4. That civic responsibility demands that community and state leaders begin crisis planning immediately to address the unprecedented wave of foreign minor school age children that could be enrolled in Texas schools this summer; and
Section 5. That the City of League City, State of Texas, calls on other communities and jurisdictions to join with us in this action by passing similar Resolutions.
Section 6. That copies of this Resolution be immediately transmitted to the Governor of the State of Texas; the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives of Texas legislature; each individual legislator that represents our City in the State of Texas; the Commissioners Court of Galveston County; and the Sheriff of Galveston County.
PASSED AND APPROVED on the _______ day of July, 2014. _________________________________ TIMOTHY PAULISSEN, Mayor ATTEST: _______________________________ DIANA STAPP, City Secretary
Galveston Co has also passed a resolution to ban illegals
Section 5. That the City of League City, State of Texas, calls on other communities and jurisdictions to join with us in this action by passing similar Resolutions.
Why not all of us do this. Would this work?
The return of the "children" is not what this money is about. It is about hiring/appointing more (liberal) judges, funding more (liberal) prosecutors, funding a ton of (liberal) public defenders, and funding a pile of (liberal) social workers and ACORN successor groups to help the poor "children". On top of that, any attempt of the Republicans to deny the money because of this scam will be portrayed as heartless and evil and mean, and the lamestream media will dutifully spend hours of "news" time to pound that into the low information voters' heads.
Be ready for several more gambits like this in the next 4 months that follow the same pattern of shamelessly using the LSM to manipulate the LIV into believing that Republicans are evil and that Dems just want to help people while buying the loyalty of liberal activist groups and voting blocs. This is not about the "children" but about November 4, 2014.
Will they increase the Obamacare funding so they can treat them, though?
Thank you for this well-informed, timely, and judicious observation, dear brother in Christ.
Rick Perry is no fool. (JMHO FWIW) Notwithstanding, I think the president is trying to play him.
Just listening to some FReepers talk over the past few days, it seems that some part of the local conversation here is devoted to the premise that Rick Perry is grandstanding on the immigration issue, so to burnish his presidential credentials. They seem to reason that, were that not the case, Perry would have already sent the Texas National Guard to the border. But since he didn't, he's just doing political grandstanding.
Of course, I imagine Rick Perry is aware of the same fact that you drew attention to, that it all boils down to a matter of "who pays."
A cynic might say that the president refuses to do anything about border security (unless Congress caves on amnesty first; but even then you couldn't trust him to follow the law on that legislation either, if passed.)
One gathers the president reasons: "So if Texas is being overrun by illegals essentially arriving on Texas soil at my behest then if Texas doesn't like it, let Texas deal with it." [And I'll sic Eric Holder on them if they do.]
I suspect the administration would love to see Perry call out the Texas Guard. That would make the citizens of Texas the main underwriter of the costs of the president's failure to enforce the border. As you have pointed out, dear xzins, such costs get "very expensive very fast."
Texas would go bankrupt in short order. From the president's perspective, this would be just dandy. Texas, in his view, is a conservative state that will not cave to his megalomaniacal "presidential vision" of mass cultural transformation. So, he reasons, "if they oppose me, let them destroy themselves. Opposition will not be tolerated."
But it seems to me Perry is not going to bankrupt the citizens of Texas just to burnish his credentials as a presidential candidate in 2016.
This is the very trap the president (or his alter ego Valerie Jarrett) is trying to lure him into. Or so it seems to me.
Perry won't play that game: I think and believe he is a man of character, who is willing to "lead from the knees." That is, from the position of prayer.... He is no friend to injustice, and I very strongly doubt he can be "bought."
Thank you ever so much for your splendid observations, dear brother in Christ!
Looking at a force of 2000 deployed 24/7/365 on the border in active operations, I estimated the cost to be about 400 million a year....based on operational and pay/benefits costs of a force that large. That is a huge expense for any state, and Texas is no exception.
Indeed, dear brother in Christ. I am sure the president is well aware of that fact.
Trying to gain some perspective on this situation, would it be admissible for me to record the following observations?:
(1) We are told to regard the president as a former professor of constitutional law; meaning, he is some kind of "expert" on the American Constitution which he swore in his Presidential Oath of Office to protect, uphold, and defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.When We the People ordained and established the United States of America, for the benefit of ourselves and our posterity, we conceded very few of our natural rights to the discretion/execution of the federal government. Indeed, "We" retained almost all personal rights unto ourselves. (See: the Ninth Amendment.)
(2) We had to wait for Obama himself to tell us that he personally regards the U.S. Constitution as a flawed document, in that it is only a charter of "negative liberties." Translating this rather Orwellian language, this means: The very foundation of American law, the Constitution, is "flawed" because it is a document that tells government what it can't do.
Well jeepers, Mr. President. The entire point of the American Revolution was that government the State of whatever form had limits that it could not transgress because to do so would infringe on the natural that is to say, unalienable rights of American citizens.
(3) The final target of the devil is always the destruction of the individual human soul. In this eternal battle, the soul's God-endowed inalienable rights are its greatest protector. But after that, protection comes from other structures in society; e.g., the family, local communities of faith and cooperation, the sovereign state of which one is a resident/citizen.
For further protection against the effects of Leviathan, the sovereign states themselves serve as mediating buffers between the individual and naked federal power. (See the Tenth Amendment.)
So, if the several sovereign states should trash themselves via bad policy, this just plays into Obama's hands. The feds, you see, would just have to rush in to "fix" the "problem."
And thereby make it ever so much worse....
"The Other Side" is playing a very deep game here. And they have a very long time frame....
Kinda reminds me of "someone"....
Thanks so much for writing, dear brother in Christ!
And he uses what knowledge he has to undermine the Consitution. This Constitution truly is designed for a moral people, so an immoral nation and a lawless president are a toxic combination when couple with knowledge of how slowly our system works.
It was thought by the Founders that the House of Representatives would be a check on the power of an executive. They have the power of the purse, and if properly applied they can have the final word on anything. But, the House hasn't really exercised its power since Gingrich's Contract with America. Clinton won initially, as the Founders predicted, but a recalcitrant House eventually led him to do as the House wished.
Into this vacuum steps Barack Obama. A spineless House, an insufferable Senate, and a Court that takes years to rule. (We must note that the media is complicit, covering his actions with nary a protest.) He KNOWS that he knows that anything he does will not be challenged before it is either removed from the consciousness of the people by the 'media cycle', removed from concern because of the inability of a cowardly House to act, or removed from resolution by a system that grinds so slowly that he'll be gone before some of his lawlessness is considered by the courts.
So, a lawless, unethical man has ascended to the presidency. This is a man who has knowledge of our Constitution and how to take advantage of the delays that are inevitable in a system like ours, has no qualms about doing so, and is well aware that there is only one Constitutional provision that allows a Chief Executive to be called to account....impeachment, trial, and removal...which will not happen in his case.
The solution is not what the republicants want, since they too are owned by the oligarchs whose agenda is to end the we the people Republic. If the republicants actually worked for the people who elected them then they would impeach the criminal/treacherous/treasonous L4B and drop the pile of dung in the Harry Reid Senate. Of course the enemy within (the media, all of them) would take directions from the democrips and portray the impeachment trial as a racist act, completely obfuscating the treason this anti-American liar is committing almost daily!
Theres a lot of yelling that Perry/Texas should do something about the border (I’m not talking about you).
Im SURE that everyone doing the hollering understands the border.
Im SURE that they understand that the Texas/Mexico border is 1241 miles long...2.5 - 3 times as long as California, Arizona and New Mexico COMBINED.
Im SURE that they understand that the Texas/Mexico border is longer that it is from New York City to Topeka, Kansas...or from Jacksonville, Florida to Midland, TX.
Im SURE that they understand the Santa Elena canyon...where 75 yards separates Texas and Mexico and where 1500 cliffs are on the opposite sides of the Rio Grande. The Rio Grande that you could wade without getting your knees wet most of the year.
Im SURE theyve been there and seen the Chihuahuan Desert and understand the futility of fencing it.
Im SURE their states have offered Texas some of their own funds and manpower to help seal the border.
Im SURE theyve read up and studied on the increased DPS/Texas Ranger presence ordered to the border by Perry/Texas.
Im SURE theyve viewed the videos about the air and water equipment on the Texas border....paid for by Texans.
Know what? Im getting a little tired of people who havent been here, havent lived here and dont know anything but what they read/believe casting aspersions on Texans about what we SHOULD be doing, NEED to do, etc.
Before they do that, why dont they quit their jobs and drive their cute little asses down here and do their part?
Or demonstrate how THEIR state has contributed to the protection of our NATIONAL border?
Or maybe, just maybe, act a little thankful for what Texas taxpayers ARE doing to try to stem the tide...sans Washington, DC.
Perrys not perfect. Texas isnt perfect. But theres no other state in the Union dealing with this issue at the magnitude we are.
How about instead of bitching, you show how you/your state is doing more than Texans are to try to stem the tide?
No? Then how about a little help?
No? Then how about a little appreciation.
No? Then, Id appreciate it if theyd shut the hell up.
Remove the foot from your mouth and try again, skippy.