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Whos To Blame For The Border Crisis?
Hardhatters ^ | 07/10/2014 | Hal Hawkins

Posted on 07/10/2014 8:25:24 AM PDT by thetallguy24

An overwhelming surge of tens of thousands of illegal alien children crossing our southern border has been happening in the past few months, everyone is looking for a scapegoat. Rather than seeking out a solution to end this surge, most would prefer to just point fingers. The blame game is a lot like sex. It sells. Unfortunately, most are rather biased in how they point fingers. Democrats blame Bush. Republicans blame Obama. Libertarians blame our open border as not being open enough. It’s never really that simple; however, as there are many areas to place blame, so we’re going to play this “game” right. What’s causing all these illegal alien children to come here so suddenly?

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Obama and DACA

In all fairness, Obama is the chief executive of this country and oversees all border security and immigration departments. On June 15, 2012, the Obama administration announced rule changes called the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA). As you can see in the video below, Obama made the announcement publicly in the White House Rose Garden. According to him, the children brought here against their will are Americans “in every, single way but one, on paper.” The rule applies to nearly every illegal alien who was under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, was under 16 when they came to America, and has resided in America continuously since 2007. While the last exception should rule out the thousands of illegal alien children that have come across the border over these past few months, this rule, when reaching the ears of Central Americans, could be easily misinterpreted as a free pass.

However, it’s very likely that most will receive a free pass, even those who do not qualify for DACA.

(Excerpt) Read more at hardhatters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bds; gop; immigration; obama; republican
What about all those racist groups like La Raza who encourage these people to come?
1 posted on 07/10/2014 8:25:24 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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TADSLOS INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: Every bit of this has a political aim......it’s an outright invasion.

A Murietta resident told Breitbart News that the illegals are being deliberately sent to Republican-supporting communities like his city....a vengeful message to those opposed to open borders.

“The Obama administration thinks that if it floods our streets, in small town America, they can force us into immigration reform,” he said. “These immigrants should not be here. The only reason that they are coming here is for political reasons.”

“This is a small town – it’s mostly conservative – and the federal government knows that. The main reason a lot of us are out here protesting is because we do not want these people being dumped into our small town where we do not have programs or the resources to take care of them properly.”......Murietta protesters have been attacked by left-wingers hurling epithets carrying signs reading "you are on stolen land."

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VIDEO Gen. Michael Hayden: Treat Immigration Crisis Like Insurgency
Newsmax By Courtney Coren | 09 Jul 2014 12:19 PM / FR Posted by robowombat

GEN HAYDEN: The invasion is an insurgency---"a criminal enterprise that's so big and so powerful that, as a byproduct, it actually threatens the US government."

The only way to describe it......all they need are the guns....they know where the weapons are....and so does Obama. One of their oft-stated goals is to takeback the SW.....a counter-protest sign in Murietta announced "you are on stolen land."

This is being facilitated w/ our tax dollars by The Congressional Hispanic Caucus---Becerra, Guttierez, chief among them....and their allies......it’s a barbarian invasion---the savages have said they want everything we have. They would fundamentally transform America into a Third World....

And the stupid in the WH says its "our" responsibility to feed, medicate and shelter the barbarian hordes who want to destroy us.

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On Tuesday, Obama urged Congress to cough up $4 billion to deal with the flood of children from Central America – and others from parts unknown – crossing the border into Texas. Obama called this mess “an urgent humanitarian situation,” but what he did not do is take responsibility for almost single- handedly causing this mess two years prior. (Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...

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Mexico made deal to send more illegal aliens to the U.S
Examiner.com ^ | 7/09/14 | Dave Gibson / FR by blueyon

On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.

The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage, will provide for more border checkpoints along Mexico's border with Guatemala, and offer more protection and even emergency medical care to those making their way north. The illegal aliens will receive a so-called Regional Visitor's Card, according to El Universal. (Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...

2 posted on 07/10/2014 8:27:57 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: thetallguy24

I’ll make it easy for ya - look to the WH for a guy who plays golf daily and doesn’t do his job.


3 posted on 07/10/2014 8:28:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: thetallguy24
0'Muslim Is..planned & executed in Jan. '14.

4 posted on 07/10/2014 8:30:16 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: thetallguy24

Sure, but only because they know they can stay once they get here.

An inept congress and a criminal executive branch on the heels of decades of inaction at our border.


5 posted on 07/10/2014 8:31:00 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: thetallguy24
1. Obama

2. Bush

Bush could have closed the border successfully right after 911 and nobody would have said a word, instead he and Cheney created the Patriot Act to enact some bad laws that enabled more spying on Americans. The gist of the argument was "We don't know who is here so we need to spy on them". I know a lot of Freepers have disagreed with me on this over the years, but Bush could have solved this 13 years ago without any political fight...

6 posted on 07/10/2014 8:31:28 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: thetallguy24
There is a big difference between analyzing the causes of a problem versus blindly tossing blame at your political opponents.
The current administration only does the second.

7 posted on 07/10/2014 8:31:48 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: thetallguy24

Who’s To Blame For The Border Crisis?

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Really? Serious question?

Why it Bush’s fault. Geez.


8 posted on 07/10/2014 8:32:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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What I can’t figure out is why they need 3.7 Billion dollars to handle these free-loaders. If there are 65,000 of them, that works out to about $57,000 PER KID!

Are they feeding them caviar and housing them in the Four Seasons? Feeding them for a week and putting them on a plane back home shouldn’t cost more than a thousand bucks, tops!

I think a lot of it is going into some well-connected pockets.


9 posted on 07/10/2014 8:32:38 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: thetallguy24
LAWLESSNESS IS NOW THE "LAW OF THE LAND"

But in a sign of how difficult it will be for Obama to satisfy advocates' demands, Trumka and Murguia called on the president to provide work permits to everyone who would have been eligible for citizenship under the Senate immigration bill, which would have extended relief to many of the 11.5 million people already in the country illegally. Administration officials have weighed expanding a two-year-old program that gave work permits to more than 500,000 immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths, but may be reluctant to extend it as broadly as advocates demand.

Obama Faces Advocate Demands On Immigration
10 posted on 07/10/2014 8:34:05 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jsanders2001

This is an intentional program of the Democrat Party, facilitated by Obama.
Until we put pressure on the Party Obama will continue destroying America knowing he has the protection of Democrats.


11 posted on 07/10/2014 8:35:21 AM PDT by paguch
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To: thetallguy24

Who’s to blame?

Well, that would be the Democrats and the GOP Establishment types who sold their soul for Campaign Cash from the Chamber of Commerce.


12 posted on 07/10/2014 8:35:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: fatez

We need to get rid of that Hart-Celler Act. End chain migration. Go back to quotas.


13 posted on 07/10/2014 8:37:36 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: paguch
This is an intentional program of the Democrat Party, facilitated by Obama. Until we put pressure on the Party Obama will continue destroying America knowing he has the protection of Democrats.

Oh, the GOP-E is involved with this just as much as the Democrats.

You can't tell me that the GOP-E would be just as happy if this forced Amnesty rather than their evil comprehensive Immigration Reform.
14 posted on 07/10/2014 8:38:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: fatez

George Bush had the perfect opportunity on 9/11 to immediately secure all our borders.

Actually he had the responsibility to do so, but he did not. Why?

Maybe because of his hispanic relatives? Maybe because he’s a liberal at heart.


15 posted on 07/10/2014 8:39:00 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: longfellowsmuse

The Congress is not inept, the Democrats control the Senate and White House and can block any Congressional moves. To them the Constitution is irrelevant .


16 posted on 07/10/2014 8:40:02 AM PDT by paguch
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To: Responsibility2nd
Why it Bush’s fault. Geez.

Well, if President George "Amnesty Bush had actually done what his base wanted him to do, close the border, when he had both houses of congress and the Presidency we would not be facing this problem today.

So yes, GWB, if we are to be honest and truthful, has to shoulder some of the blame.
17 posted on 07/10/2014 8:42:07 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ladyjane

Yeah, I agree. I voted for him twice holding my nose. I like him as person, but he was not a good president and definitely not a conservative. Plus he foisted the Medicare Drug plan on us...


18 posted on 07/10/2014 8:45:10 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: SoConPubbie

Tell us how it is that L4B (that little bath-house barry bastard boy) knew there would be more than 60,000 illegal alien children arriving at our Southern Border this summer, way back in January of this year when he had the fedzillaadvertising for ‘escorts’ for 65,000 unescorted children ‘immigrants’. Perhaps Bush arranged that, too? If you actually want an answer to that query you will have to figure out how to get the records of Brennan’s CIA thuggery embrace of the drug cartels released for exposure.


19 posted on 07/10/2014 8:47:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: fatez

How quickly we forget from whence came the ‘North American UNion’ agenda as a step in the implementation of the globalist one world government plan.


20 posted on 07/10/2014 8:51:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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21 posted on 07/10/2014 8:52:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Gunpowder green

The money is for payment to the responders to the JANUARY 2014 government ad for escorts for unaccompanied invaders. Would you say that a vast majority of the responders are DEMONCRATS?


22 posted on 07/10/2014 8:52:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Tell us how it is that L4B (that little bath-house barry bastard boy) knew there would be more than 60,000 illegal alien children arriving at our Southern Border this summer, way back in January of this year when he had the fedzillaadvertising for ‘escorts’ for 65,000 unescorted children ‘immigrants’. Perhaps Bush arranged that, too? If you actually want an answer to that query you will have to figure out how to get the records of Brennan’s CIA thuggery embrace of the drug cartels released for exposure.

How about you tell me why GWB did not attempt to close the border, build a fence, enforce the law, or beef up the law to get rid of illegals when he had both houses of congress and he was the President?

Why don't you tell me why he was constantly shilling for Amnesty for those who came here illegally, committed all kinds of felonious ID Fraud, and stole social services they had no right too, causing in large part, the deficits that have plagued the states for years?

If he had actually done the moral thing, the righteous thing by closing the border, WE WOULD NOT BE FACING THIS ISSUE TODAY.

You answer my questions first and then I'll answer yours.
23 posted on 07/10/2014 8:53:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ladyjane

pingaling to remember ...


24 posted on 07/10/2014 8:54:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: SoConPubbie

The answer is quite simple really, The North American Union plan. And do you remember under whose rule that little poisonous dart arose?


25 posted on 07/10/2014 8:56:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: paguch

Fear of failure is not a reason to abandon truth and law. I see you have adopted the common excuse of republican leadership. Here is the problem with a congress that accepts defeat.

The American People are watching. When your leaders whom you elect refuse to even attempt use their constitutionally granted powers to reign an out of control executive branch it results in depression and voter apathy among your constituents. Why go to the polls, why even bother to become involved in fighting for the truths that founded our nation when your elected leaders give up, while they look to the capitol exits for their next lobbying job. The American people will follow a leader who stands up to tyranny, even if he or she loses a couple of battles along the way. Yes, indeed they are inept at understanding that Americans want a leader who stands for us not a group of passive frat boys who golf with a tyrant while Rome burns.

Imagine if Washington had employed such a defeatist attitude. Surely the British army was a more formidable foe than Harry Reid.


26 posted on 07/10/2014 8:57:39 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: thetallguy24

Somehow, someway they will blame Bush....................


27 posted on 07/10/2014 9:02:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,759 threads and 85,158 replies...............)
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To: jsanders2001; thetallguy24

Isn’t that a very stupid question here on F.R.???


28 posted on 07/10/2014 9:03:33 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: MHGinTN
The answer is quite simple really, The North American Union plan. And do you remember under whose rule that little poisonous dart arose?

Well, since your the once trying to make that case, why don't you enlighten us?
29 posted on 07/10/2014 9:04:18 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Bull-loney.

As it pertains to the current crisis of tens of thousands of children and other illegals streaming across the borders; this is 100 percent Obama’s fault.

From his ads last January seeking escorts for these children - to his collusion recently with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto - to many other well documented and recent actions - this is all on Obama.

Not Bush.


30 posted on 07/10/2014 9:05:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: danamco

there’s no such thing as stupid questions. Maybe its just unnecessary.


31 posted on 07/10/2014 9:07:31 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

Obama.


32 posted on 07/10/2014 9:08:35 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Bull-loney.

As it pertains to the current crisis of tens of thousands of children and other illegals streaming across the borders; this is 100 percent Obama’s fault.


Garbage!

If GWB had closed the border when he could because he had both houses of congress, we wouldn't even be facing this issue today.

Don't stick your head in the sand because you are either way too loyal to GWB or the GOP or both.

Stick to principles.
33 posted on 07/10/2014 9:10:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s true, GWB should bear some responsibility,
however, is he President NOW? Was he president
the last six years? The responsibility is Obama’s.
He refuses to enforce the laws already in place and
exacerbates the situation with his actions.
Where is the pressure on MEXICO to stop allowing these
people to transit their country?

Close the border, then we can talk about immigration.


34 posted on 07/10/2014 9:14:00 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68; Responsibility2nd; MHGinTN
It’s true, GWB should bear some responsibility, however, is he President NOW? Was he president the last six years? The responsibility is Obama’s. He refuses to enforce the laws already in place and exacerbates the situation with his actions. Where is the pressure on MEXICO to stop allowing these people to transit their country?

Close the border, then we can talk about immigration.


This was the correct response.
35 posted on 07/10/2014 9:17:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

You’re getting emotional.

You wanna play “what-if”? Fine. IF Bush had closed the borders and more....

What would have kept Obama from - YEARS LATER - softening the stance on the Border issues and creating this type of manufacted crisis that is now staring us in the face?

Pal - you have the worst case of BDS I’ve seen in a long time.


36 posted on 07/10/2014 9:19:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You wanna play “what-if”? Fine. IF Bush had closed the borders and more....

The refusal on our part to hold our own accountable first, is one of the reasons why the GOP-E is able to maintain control of our party.

Pal - you have the worst case of BDS I’ve seen in a long time. Now whose getting emotional?
37 posted on 07/10/2014 9:29:38 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: thetallguy24

Obama is playing pool and raising political money.

He’s flipping off the people of The United States.

He should call an emergency cabinet meeting and tell them, “Be back here in four hours with things your department can do to help fix this.”

He hasn’t. He’s just giving us the bird. We are governed by vengeful, greedy ten year old Democrats.


38 posted on 07/10/2014 9:40:58 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SoConPubbie; Responsibility2nd
You are being an asshat. The following reveals your snooty agenda on this issue. Stick it: "This was the correct response."

You aren't god enough to be telling freepers what is the correct response to your loaded 20 questions game.

39 posted on 07/10/2014 10:14:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN; Responsibility2nd
You aren't god enough to be telling freepers what is the correct response to your loaded 20 questions game.

Hey, where did you get that Freeper cloak you are wrapping yourself in?

I want one of those!
40 posted on 07/10/2014 10:27:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: MHGinTN
You are being an asshat. The following reveals your snooty agenda on this issue. Stick it: "This was the correct response."

Nice!

Attack the messenger because you don't want to answer the question or be honest about the failures of GWB!
41 posted on 07/10/2014 10:31:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: thetallguy24

Every sitting president since Kennedy... maybe Truman. We’ve known the border was ineffective for a long time.


42 posted on 07/10/2014 10:32:23 AM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh I answered your little dig, you just aren’t intelligent enough to comprehend what I posted and your agenda is 20 questions, not honest discussion. That is the essential definition of an asshat, skippy.


43 posted on 07/10/2014 10:42:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: jsanders2001

OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS THROW BLACKS UNDER THE BUS

By A. J. Delgado
National Review on Line
Jul 9/2014

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/382338/print

One of the sleeper issues surrounding the debate on amnesty for illegal immigrants – an inconvenient one that no proponent of a widespread amnesty wishes to acknowledge – is the devastating effect so-called immigration reform will have on African Americans.

Why are Democratic politicians disregarding the concerns and needs of black Americans in a push to address the concerns and needs… of foreigners? Amnesty proponents speak of the need to grant others a better life – but what of the need to look out for our fellow Americans? What of those black Americans whose ancestors quite literally built this nation through the sweat of their brows?

Instead, Democrats are chucking aside black voters in their rush to lock in the Latino vote (or so they’re hoping). Taken for granted as a given come election-time, blacks are now actively harmed as the Democrats vow to grow their voting base through importing more and more of what they see as future blue-voters. It’s the husband who leaves his wife of 30 years: ‘We had a good run, honey, but I’ve found someone new.’

Democrats have built a brand as the party willing to stand up for black Americans, but the amnesty push shows what a false promise that was. The message to black voters is: “Yes, your ancestors endured unimaginable hardships and helped build this country, and we said we’d help you out. But now we have a new trophy wife.”


44 posted on 07/10/2014 12:19:12 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Dqban22

> OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS THROW BLACKS UNDER THE BUS

Well of course they are. The blacks’ usefulness is just about played out because the race card is about to expire and they only make up about 12 % of the nationwide population. The Hispanics are being coddled now because they are projected to be 50 % of the population and have such a fast production rate. With Obama pumping up the brown population with the new treasonous illegal immigration importing shenanigans whoever gets the brown vote will win the elections in the future. Wouldn’t it be ironic if it backfired on them and ensured only conservatives won elections in the future. The Demoncrats wouldn’t be able to erect a fence fast enough.


45 posted on 07/10/2014 1:42:26 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: thetallguy24

I think most of us here KNOW who to blame!~!!


46 posted on 07/10/2014 6:20:18 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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