Skip to comments.McDaniel’s backers refile poll books lawsuit (New Details)
Posted on 07/10/2014 8:52:08 AM PDT by Hostage
JACKSON A federal lawsuit seeking voter records has been refiled in Mississippis southern district federal court.
Texas group True the Vote and 22 Mississippi residents refiled their lawsuit Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Jackson against Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann and the state Republican Party. The new version of the suit adds election commissions in Copiah, Hinds, Jefferson Davis, Lauderdale, Leake, Madison, Rankin, Simpson and Yazoo counties.
The plaintiffs say federal law requires authorities to release voting rolls and poll books without erasing voters personal information. They also say the law doesnt allow fees for redaction, saying at least one county wanted to charge $1,400.
Mississippi authorities say its proper to remove birth dates and make requesters pay for removal.
The group first sued in Oxford, but dropped that action Tuesday after U.S. District Judge Mike Mills ordered plaintiffs to explain why the suit shouldnt be handled in Jackson.
(Excerpt) Read more at msbusiness.com ...
The motion is very well written and solidly based.
This report details some of the reasons why TTV and Mississippi voters withdrew their federal lawsuit and refiled in the Southern District.
Federal Judge Mills gave TTV and the voters at least two warnings that revealed they should clear out of his courtroom. The first asked TTV and the voters why they didn't file in the Southern District? My thinking is it should not matter at all. But it signals this judge does not want his court embroiled in it and that means in my book he has ties to the Barbour machine.
Secondly, Judge Mills said unbelievably that he didn't think crossover double voting in an election for a federal office holder was against federal law. Say what?
Voting for your party candidate and then voting for the weaker of your party's opponent is diluting the stronger opponent's voter base. It is multiple voting pure and simple and is no different that a college crowd being bused around to vote 10 or 12 times. It is vote fraud and that is a federal offense.
Look over the lawsuit. There are plenty of reasons for a federal court to grant a federal injunction against the state withholding voter materials.
Well,,,, maybe Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann will get hosed in Yazoo!
Anybody interested in letting Priebus and Co. know what’s up with this issue http://www.gop.com/contact-us/
Have at it.
Should the McDaniel campaign (and/or McDaniel himself) be included as a plaintiff in addition to the 22 voters? I always worry about Judges throwing legitimate cases out due to “lack of standing”. McDaniel has clearly been harmed but the individual voters may be considered (by an excuse-hunting Judge) to only hypothetically harmed.
Go get em —
I am not optimistic regarding this filing. Seems the whole state of Mississippi is corrupt - we’ll see. McDaniel appears to be a candidate both sides love to hate. Let’s pray for this situation to be resolved in a just manner and for any corruption to be exposed. If that doesn’t happen I don’t we can call Mississippi a conservative state any longer.
I would think adding Chris to this lawsuit would take all of ten minutes. His campaign wholeheartedly endorses TTV and is working side by side with them. Any reasonable judge would at most require McDaniel submit a certified letter agreeing to be added.
The issue of standing revolves around who was harmed, who was damaged. This issue became part of the national psyche when multiple lawsuits were tossed that had challenged Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for President. If McCain or Romney had joined the birther fight, those lawsuits would have proceeded.
So you have a point but the lawsuit as written and linked above is very well based and substantiated and clearly shows that Mississippi voters will be egregiously harmed if the voting materials are withheld.
One particular fact in TTV’s favor is that many counties were forthcoming with the election materials. So the MS SOS and MS Republican Party Chair can’t rely on the districts withholding voting materials based on state law when clearly some do not withhold!
Mississippi is corrupt but not entirely. There are large numbers of great lawyers and judges in that state.
I think the Mississippi mindset is at its root one of “create pleasant and friendly living conditions” and “don’t create a ruckus”. So that leaves a lot of the state very typically southern laid back and peaceful.
But I think they can also be riled up and angered. And from what I have read and received in the mail is there has not been such anger in MS that can be remembered. The fraud was blatant and in your face.
Now I know having been born in Virginia that southerners are some of the most peaceful people you will ever meet but God help you if you should ever anger them.
I think Mississippi is a powder keg and the fuse is lit.
The SoS says Mississippi law requires the redaction (erasure) of both SSN and birthdate from copies of the pollbooks provided to TTV, or anyone else, such as the McDaniel campaign. Without the SSN and birthdate there is exponentially greater opportunity for fraud on the part of county election commissioners. Just look at the images we have seen of the pollbooks and imagine them without SSNs and birthdates.
The SOS said it is state law but most counties did not follow that law and opened up the voting materials to the McDaniel campaign. So will the State Attorney General get after those counties that followed federal law? I think not!
MS SOS is blowing it out his backside looking for an excuse to deny scrutiny.
Don't expect Priebus to be too receptive.
Here’s a clickable link to the lawsuit:
I hope they stay on this and tarnish the hell out of those responsible
Here’s a list of the nine county election commissions that are holding back and that are now named on the lawsuit:
Jefferson Davis County,
There are 82 counties in MS. That leaves 73 counties that are unnamed on the lawsuit and that presumably cooperating with the McDaniel campaign as required by FEDERAL law.
I’m getting a little nervous about the actual count of illegal votes. The McDaniel campaign is obviously being vague and the Cochran campaign is claiming that the numbers we do hear are overstated. And the simple fact that they are reissuing the lawsuits indicates they are not to 6700 yet.
Good point! I imagine McDaniel’s and TTV’s attorneys would think to bring that up before the judge to take away the issue of voter privacy from the defendants.
But I also imagine the attorneys are overwhelmed as they have stated to the press that they are overwhelmed and are continuing to be overwhelmed with the volume and quality of the fraud evidence coming at them.
So I will try to get your point before them just in case it gets lost in the noise.
That’s all moot now but it is curious as to why TTV filed in the Northern District to begin with. But it does explain why they added 9 out of 82 counties to the lawsuit refiled in the Southern District.
Tell me how that could be managed. Wouldn’t a court balk at a review of thousands and thousands of voters information inside its court room or could there be a facility under watchful eyes of the court where the materials could be brought and reviewd?
The atmosphere down there is tense. Allegations have been made of McDaniel volunteers getting into a tussle with reporters, of reporters not revealing their names, of McDaniel supporters and volunteers turning their back to cameras.
I imagine if McDaniel showed their evidence at this stage that the Cochran-Barbour people will alter the records or murder witnesses.
TTV has the affidavits of fraud and coverup. They also have not revealed those affidavits and the people behind them. I am thinking they will reveal them under seal because of threats made; life threatening. Remember a Tea Party person was reported to have committed suicide and the McDaniel campaign is suing the state party for assisting in the ‘suicide’? What does that tell you? It should tell you there are guns pointed at people behind the scenes.
This is real hardball being played down there and I think the McDaniel and TTV side is playing to win. There’s no doubt in my mind that they have the goods. But they have to handle the evidence under security and watch the timing of its release.
The fact that the Cochran-Barbour gangs are withholding voting materials from review and denying scrutiny is enough to tip any person off that they are covering up or buying time. It’s also telling that they added 100 votes to their total weeks after the runoff and just after the McDaniel campaign announced they had 7000 voting irregularities. Obviously the truth is a victim in this and I don’t think McDaniel’s people are at fault.
Thanks for the detailed report. We need more of this type of reporting here on FR.
If Mississippi has something similar to FRCP 502(d), the county election commissioners could put all the pollbooks on a thumb drive as .pdfs. A clerk appointed by the court could then review them efficiently.
Thanks Kennard. I have forwarded your comments in an email to the McDaniel attorneys office.
There is always one final option. All the McDaniel supporters can join the Democrats and vote for Childers, the Dem Candidate, on November 4th. He is Pro-life and Pro-2nd Amendment. The Dems in MS are fired up for this election now.
And the simple fact that they are reissuing the lawsuits indicates they are not to 6700 yet.
They have not even gotten to the Absentee Ballots yet and that’s where voter fraud is always rampant.
Remember a Tea Party person was reported to have committed suicide and the McDaniel campaign is suing the state party for assisting in the suicide? What does that tell you?
WHAT???? First I heard of this. What’s that all about?
More here with links to the one that died:
I thought I had copied you but maybe I missed.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
Just got to thinking: What if the stress of all this mess going on caused ol’ Thad to stroke out, have a heart attack and croak? What would happen then?
Barbour would choose his replacement. I suspect that was the plan all along as Cochran said he just wanted to “take a nap” when he was heavily pressured to run again. They’ve probably thought of propping up Cochran even if he does die just long enough to get him across the finish line in November so that the replacement will be a US Senator appointee and not a candidate to run against the democrat.
How can Barbour appoint anyone? That is the Governor’s job; depending on what MS Election Law dictates. (Unless you mean the Guv. will do what Haley Barbour tells him to do.)
Yes, I meant the governor but with Haley and his sons in mind.
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