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(Albuquerque) APD to buy 350-plus AR-15 rifles
KOB NEWS ^ | 09 JULY 2014 | RYAN LUBY

Posted on 07/10/2014 4:56:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

New Mexico's largest police department, mired in controversy over the use of excessive force, is about to supply military-style weapons to officers using taxpayer money.

The investigative team at KOB Eyewitness News 4 learned that Albuquerque Police awarded a bid to a local vendor for the purchase of AR-15 rifles -- the type of gun used to kill James Boyd in the foothills in March.

According to the request for bid, which ended two weeks ago, the department would likely purchase 350 guns in the first year of a two-year contract. Thereafter, it would order quantities of 50 as necessary.

"You're asking for trouble, in my opinion," Peter Simonson, Executive Director of the ACLU of New Mexico said.

Simonson was unaware of the department's purchasing plans until KOB contacted him. He thought APD was moving away from using high-powered weapons after the Department of Justice said APD officers have a "pattern and practice" of using excessive and deadly force.

(Excerpt) Read more at kob.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 07/10/2014 4:56:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They must have a lot of dogs that need shootin’ down there.


2 posted on 07/10/2014 4:58:13 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t mind them buying the rifles it is how they use them which bothers me.

I wonder if .308 bolt actions with high quality scopes might be more useful.


3 posted on 07/10/2014 5:02:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Has anyone told them that Walter White is dead?


4 posted on 07/10/2014 5:03:58 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Isn’t this the place thats shooting lots of people?


5 posted on 07/10/2014 5:04:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Oliviaforever

I’m more scared of those twins.


6 posted on 07/10/2014 5:07:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

i don’t think any pd needs to have 350 assault rifles, ever.

how do they justify this. they’ve gotten along all this time without so many evil assault rifles.

i think its time we start disarming internal police forces.


7 posted on 07/10/2014 5:10:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Full auto iow, machine guns/true assault weapons?


8 posted on 07/10/2014 5:17:47 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Secret Agent Man

***I don’t think any pd needs to have 350 assault rifles, ever.***

Bill Clinton gave thousands of full auto M-16s to the LAPD.

He later also gave them bayonets.

My first memory of what NM cops used to use was 1955, when a Farmington policeman stopped at our motel for some reason. All us kids gathered around the cruiser to look at all the “neat” things inside.
The policeman opened the door, and strapped to the inside of the door was a rifle scabbard with a lever action 30-30 carbine inside.


9 posted on 07/10/2014 5:21:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They’ll need far more than that!


10 posted on 07/10/2014 5:25:43 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: John S Mosby

If they are AR-15’s, no. AR’s only fire semi-auto, one round per trigger pull. Not a true assault weapon.


11 posted on 07/10/2014 5:28:06 PM PDT by W. (Obama's "residency" has been nothing but a form of welfare for his family, friends and supporters.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Back in the 80s a group of young people were having a ball going across the country robbing and murdering people.

They were seen in Kansas and trying to get away, a Kansas Highway patrolman shot one of them through the head at nearly 200 yards. He was using a scoped bolt action. Suddenly it wasn’t fun anymore and the rest surrendered.


12 posted on 07/10/2014 5:28:35 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

it’d be one thing if they were going to mow down knmown gun houses and known thug hangouts.

they don’t do that not even with swat.
they go after regular, singular persons,’with swat. this crap is going to be used on us.

not foreign enemies, not drug gangs, not illegals, just us citizens.

they had better realize the citizenry is not going to be mowed down like sheep.


13 posted on 07/10/2014 5:28:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They need the weapons to protect all those illegal aliens from the savage citizenry.


14 posted on 07/10/2014 5:30:19 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Oliviaforever

Please. It’s Heisenberg.


15 posted on 07/10/2014 5:32:33 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: driftdiver

“Isn’t this the place thats shooting lots of people?”

Yes.


16 posted on 07/10/2014 5:33:49 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They should’ve applied to the feds for some AK’s. They might’ve gotten them sooner and it would’ve been on the QT.


17 posted on 07/10/2014 6:06:46 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: yarddog

They make ARs in .308. That’s what I’d think they’d want if they want to have more firepower than most of the bad guys. You get more knockdown power and added range.


18 posted on 07/10/2014 6:08:38 PM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: BFM

The .308 has more knockdown but surprisingly, the .223 with the long, heavy for caliber 68/69 grain bullets actually out range it. Probably have to have a 20 inch, or longer barrel for the .223 tho.


19 posted on 07/10/2014 6:15:08 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How many times have gun grabbers told us that the only purpose of these eeevil weapons is to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible?


20 posted on 07/10/2014 6:32:22 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: yarddog

The .223/5.56 won’t outrange the .308, but the AR platform is more accurate at most competition distances.


21 posted on 07/10/2014 6:46:33 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
To be honest, a police department with AR-15s does not concern me in the least. Now a police department with AR-15s in a place which does not allow Joe Citizen to have an AR-15, on the other hand... that's what concerns me. I think the police department should be allowed to carry whatever weapons they want feel are necessary, provided that the citizens are allowed to own those exact same weapons.

If the police believe that AR-15s are necessary for their normal work (many police departments already carry carbines in their patrol cars), then fine; I can own one, too, if I choose. If they think they need something fully automatic like an M16 (say in a high-crime area or along a major drug route), great. But you'd better get rid of all those silly unconstitutional laws that make it unreasonably difficult for me to own one, too.

If the police purchase an MRAP for just the cost of delivery, more power to them. They just better not prevent me from purchasing an Abrams tank for the same price if I so desire!

After all, if the police believe there's a credible threat against which they must be that heavily armed, then I should arm myself against that threat, too, shouldn't I?

22 posted on 07/10/2014 6:56:34 PM PDT by lcms rev
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To: SJSAMPLE

The first time I became aware of just how much better the heavy .223 bullets do over the .308 bullets was when I shot and old syrup cooker which looked a bit like a WWI Helmet lying on it’s back.

I shot it with both an HK-91 with German surplus ammo and the Colt H-Bar with a 20 inch barrel. This was at a range of around 600 yards. It was easy to hit with either gun but the H-Bar shot flatter and it put holes through the cooker. The .308 just put a dent in them.


23 posted on 07/10/2014 7:02:09 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: driftdiver

“Isn’t this the place thats shooting lots of people?”

Yeah, and in one of their counties, you can get pulled over for a traffic violation and have a colonoscopy to check your dumper for drugs at a hospital in the next county. New Mexico, sure has the right name now doesn’t it!


24 posted on 07/10/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Assault rifles" are "weapons of war".

Who are the Albuquerque police at war with?

25 posted on 07/10/2014 7:56:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
BEAT 1
26 posted on 07/10/2014 8:04:15 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: beelzepug
DOG KILL
27 posted on 07/10/2014 8:06:27 PM PDT by baddog 219
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