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Girl believed to have been cured of HIV has relapsed
The Telegraph ^ | 7/10/2014

Posted on 07/10/2014 8:14:02 PM PDT by markomalley

A US girl born with the AIDS virus and in remission for years despite stopping treatment now shows signs that she still harbors HIV – and therefore is not cured. The news is a setback to hopes that very early treatment with powerful HIV drugs might reverse an infection that has seemed permanent once it takes hold.

The Mississippi girl is now nearly 4. As recently as March, doctors had said that she seemed free of HIV despite not having been on Aids drugs for about two years. That was a medical first.

But on Thursday, doctors said tests last week showed that she is no longer in remission. She is now back on treatment and is responding well, doctors said.

The news is "obviously disappointing" and may have implications for a federal study that had been about to start testing early, aggressive treatment in such cases, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; hiv; homosexualagenda
Sorry for the girl...but I thought that conclusion was a bit premature when I initially heard it.
1 posted on 07/10/2014 8:14:02 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Very sad, but I have a feeling this disease is beyond human medical machinations.


2 posted on 07/10/2014 8:16:52 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon
So was smallpox, for centuries. And it was seen as punishment for sins of the people.

Never say never.

/johnny

3 posted on 07/10/2014 8:19:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Viennacon

This judgment sent from God - unfortunately - affects a lot of others in society who had nothing to do with that judgment. Sin and its judgment has a way of affecting a lot of other people, too, in society!


4 posted on 07/10/2014 8:20:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: markomalley
AIDS is a retrovirus. In cats, the virus can go undetected in the bone marrow and circulation for a couple of years and then become detected once more. Kittens born of a dam infected with FeLV will always have to be considered possible FeLV cats when making differential diagnoses.
5 posted on 07/10/2014 8:25:42 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s certainly possible that they’ll eventually create a cure for AIDS, but you didn’t mention the larger issue. What activities cause and spread AIDS and other diseases in the first place?

Our culture is focused on the effects—not the cause. Even if AIDS is cured—and a cure would be great—what’s next? The people who choose high risk behaviors will continue to spread other diseases and quite possibly originate something even worse than AIDS, but we’re not supposed to mention THAT.


6 posted on 07/10/2014 8:31:18 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Above my paygrade. Gotta remember that I'm just a cook.

People won't quit bad behaviors. All you can do is call them on it and point it out.

/johnny

7 posted on 07/10/2014 8:37:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: markomalley

I thought the same thing. Too eager to boast Mission Accomplished to keep that research money flowing in. If there is total immunity for this child, they may not know for sure until certain hallmarks of maturity occur. It remains to be seen how the virus reacts to the onset of puberty, with all the hormonal changes. How will childbirth effect her, will gestation revive or worse activate her latent illness? Can she pass on the disease or the immunity?


8 posted on 07/10/2014 8:38:43 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: markomalley

So homosexuals want to be able to donate blood like normal people because of the reliability of testing?

I think not.


9 posted on 07/10/2014 9:05:41 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: JRandomFreeper; CitizenUSA
People won't quit bad behaviors. All you can do is call them on it and point it out.

And risk being called a racist, or patriot, or christian, or ... american ?

10 posted on 07/10/2014 9:22:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I quit being scared of being called names about 2nd grade. I'm an adult, now. And I've been called pretty much everything in most languages. I was once cursed in Sanskrit (on what passes for paper, I've got it around here somewhere).

It's a very insecure person that worries overmuch about bad press.

Really makes the libs angry when you take away their only leverage. ;)

/johnny

11 posted on 07/10/2014 9:26:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: vetvetdoug

AIDS is not a retrovirus. HIV is a retrovirus and is claimed to be the cause of the large collection of diseases that are lumped together under the term AIDS.

This is well known.

It is also unproven. Just for drill do a Google search looking for the definitive evidence that HIV is the cause of AIDS. Good luck. You will need lots of time on your hands. But be forwarned - you will come up empty.


12 posted on 07/10/2014 9:45:18 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: InterceptPoint

HIV is proven as cause of AIDS, just because a couple of lunatics on the internet spout conspiracy theories, does not mean there is a valid debate on the subject. There was some HIV+ woman awhile back who did not believe the virus caused AIDS, so she did not take anti-retrovirals and had two kids, breastfeeding them for years. Naturally both developed AIDS.

Anyone who doubts the connection between HIV and AIDS should infect himself with HIV and not take retrovirals thus showing everyone he/she is right. This chart of virus particles vs immune cells has been around for years and tells the whole story.

The good news is that medical science has developed effective ways to keep the disease under control, with the newest retroviral therapy, it is better to have HIV than to have type 2 diabetes in terms of long term prognosis.


13 posted on 07/10/2014 11:42:23 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is the disconcerting thing about liberalism.

If any negative behavior requires human willpower or a moral framework to alleviate it, most conservatives will attempt to do just that, and falling short, will strive to do better.

Liberals on the other hand, have this perverse approach to everything from crime to sexual behavior, where they actually embrace damaging behavior and encourage it because they view it as outside the responsibility of human control.

For example, sex between young teens. Instead of discouraging it by pointing out the negative aspects of such activity, they assume humans are animals that are completely at the mercy of their baser instincts, and since the behavior cannot be controlled or suppressed (in their view) they actually encourage it and make it easier.

Same with crime. I swear, liberalism is a mental illness.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 2:24:25 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: BurningOak
I asked for a reference. Where is the definitive proof that HIV causes AIDS? Where in the medical journals is that article, that summary of the clinical tests that make the case?

Anecdotal evidence is not proof. Nor is correlation.

If you have the evidence point me to it.

15 posted on 07/11/2014 5:46:59 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: InterceptPoint

If HIV doesn’t cause AIDS, then what does?


16 posted on 07/11/2014 6:05:27 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
If HIV doesn’t cause AIDS, then what does?
IIRC according to Duesberg et.al. It's anal sex with poppers (amyl-nitrate).
17 posted on 07/11/2014 6:23:51 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The great majority of AIDS victims in the U.S. are gay or drug users or both and male victims greatly outnumber females with AIDS.

This is highly untypical of contageous diseases.

AIDS is a collection of diseases that result from a damaged immune system. Just the sort of problem you have with long term drug use and unprotected sex that is the norm in the gay community.

The only proof that HIV causes AIDS is based on a correlation between a positive test for HIV antibodies (not HIV itself) and one of the many AIDS defined diseases.

Lots of people test positive for HIV antibodies. But AIDS deaths are mostly gays and drug users and male.

Ask yourself why that would be. Ask yourself what other virus acts like that.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 6:44:08 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

You’re not really claiming that this girl, as a newborn baby, had been having anal sex with poppers, are you?


19 posted on 07/11/2014 6:51:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No, I believe that AIDS is caused by the HIV virus and have never stated otherwise.


20 posted on 07/11/2014 7:22:42 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: InterceptPoint

If you want a simple explanation of how HIV causes AIDS. This chart explains everything. HIV>dead white cells>immunodeficiency>AIDS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#mediaviewer/File:Hiv-timecourse_copy.svg

If you want primary data, there are thousands of articles on pubmed which is what researchers and doctors read.


21 posted on 07/11/2014 9:31:30 AM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: InterceptPoint

What you wrote is false. The amount of AIDS cases is directly proportional to amount of HIV cases. HIV causing AIDS has been proven by a thousand studies, all available on pubmed. There is more evidence HIV causes AIDS than there is that George Washington ever existed. We even know what mutation in our own HIV receptor for virus prevents AIDS in a small group of AIDS immune people.

“Lots of people test positive for HIV antibodies. But AIDS deaths are mostly gays and drug users and male.”

That is mostly false. The only groups that develop AIDS from HIV faster than others are those with already weak immune systems. Children, the elderly, people with another hit on immune system (hemophiliacs who got it from transfusions, people with genetic immune disorders, a really sickly heroin addict etc.)


22 posted on 07/11/2014 9:38:43 AM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak

Send me just one reference.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 10:25:27 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: markomalley

This is because HIV is a moving target; one of the most evolving and adaptive viruses in humankind.


24 posted on 07/11/2014 1:10:11 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: BurningOak

“HIV causing AIDS has been proven by a thousand studies, all available on pubmed.”

You must also believe that Climate Change has been proven by a thousand studies, all available on {insert your favorite aggregator}.


25 posted on 07/18/2014 4:58:28 PM PDT by sagar
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To: CitizenUSA
It’s certainly possible that they’ll eventually create a cure for AIDS, but you didn’t mention the larger issue. What activities cause and spread AIDS and other diseases in the first place? Our culture is focused on the effects—not the cause. Even if AIDS is cured—and a cure would be great—what’s next? The people who choose high risk behaviors will continue to spread other diseases and quite possibly originate something even worse than AIDS, but we’re not supposed to mention THAT.

That is the larger issue. As long as promiscuous anal sex is prevalent among a sub-group, that subgroup will spread diseases rapidly. Including strains which are resistant to all treatment.

26 posted on 07/18/2014 5:05:28 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: InterceptPoint; BurningOak

If you screen HIV from the blood supply, no one gets AIDS from a blood transfusion.

While it is a fact that the connection between HIV and AIDS wasn’t found through traditional methods, you can’t argue away the connection between them.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 5:10:55 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PapaBear3625

Yes. The activities themselves are the greater issue. Anal sodomy is a very high risk behavior even for heterosexuals. If one engages in such activities and is also promiscuous, even worse. Homosexuals especially are known to be extremely promiscuous. It’s almost a fundamental aspect of being out and proud. They flaunt their sins with pride (like in the days of Lot—some things never change).

I tolerate sinners, but I see no reason to tolerate sin. What I mean is, everyone is a sinner, including myself. I don’t think homosexuals should be treated poorly, but I draw the line when they claim their sin is not sin. I can be friends with an alcoholic for example, but I would never serve them alcohol or say what they do is right if asked. I will not be complicit in encouraging their sins.

Homosexuality is worse in that it has real world implications beyond sin. An alcoholic may hurt no one but himself, but a homosexual is a real threat to public health. Like we discussed, who knows what’s next after AIDS? Anal sodomy creates blood to blood transfers of all sorts of pathogens. Modern plumbing is designed to keep us humans separate from our wastes, but homosexuals actually play in the sewer. It’s a very nasty behavior beyond the moral implications.

Nevertheless, Christ sacrificed for all of us, including homosexuals. A homosexual who repents is saved, just like the liar, the adulterer, or the alcoholic. This won’t necessarily stop the real world penalties, like AIDS, for sin, but it will ensure one’s soul is saved.


28 posted on 07/18/2014 8:00:13 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
If you screen HIV from the blood supply, no one gets AIDS from a blood transfusion.

And before we knew to look for HIV in blood donations, a number of people got AIDS from transfusions.

So what NEW virus may be rapidly spreading through the homosexual community via promiscuous anal sex, which we don't know about? It's a GOOD idea to exclude blood from members of a community which is a known disease vector.

29 posted on 07/19/2014 6:30:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Homosexuals want to be able to donate blood. They believe HIV was created by the government to get rid of them. So if they can give HIV to everyone else, then the government will release the cure.


30 posted on 07/19/2014 10:08:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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