Skip to comments.Native Hawaiians to Federal Government: Give Us Back Our Kingdom
Posted on 07/11/2014 8:44:48 AM PDT by nikos1121
The federal government posed a series of questions to Native Hawaiians, with whom it's seeking to reestablish nation-to-nation status. The answer it received, to all, was a resounding "no."
This week, the Department of the Interior wrapped up two weeks of public meetings in Hawaii soliciting input from the Native Hawaiian community on setting up a similar structure to the one it has with Native American tribes.
Kale Gumapac was one of the 130 people who signed up to speak in Hilo on the island of Hawaii.
[On] the questions that you raised for everyone to answer. Its a trap," said Gumapac. "But Im going to answer it anyway. Aole [No]. No to everything that you guys are wanting and everything you are wanting to do. Because we can do it ourselves. We have our own government. We have the Queen, Liliuokalani, and the constitution of the Kingdom of Hawaii continues to exist. You need to learn that constitution so that you can know when to ask permission to come into the Kingdom of Hawaii.
Gumapac and hundreds more showed up to testify at the fifteen public hearings held on the islands of Oahu, Lanai, Molokai, Kauai, Hawaii, and Maui.
Residents delivered passionate accounts of Hawaiian history, U.S. militarism, cultural and environmental degradation, land disputes, and a steady stream of "no's" to the five questions asked by the Department of Interior.
The Kingdom of Hawaii was never a tribe, Francis Moku Malani, Jr. testified at the Hilo hearing last week, We are a sovereign nation.
The 1993 Apology Resolution publicly acknowledged and apologized for the United States involvement in the illegal overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani and the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893, admitting that the United States violated Native Hawaiians right to self-determination and international law.
In 2000, the Departments of the Interior and Justice jointly issued a recommendation for self-determination for Native Hawaiians. From 2000 to 2010, Senator Daniel Akaka tried unsuccessfully to push what has become known as The Akaka Bill for federal recognition through Congress.
"No to everything that you guys are wanting and everything you are wanting to do. Because we can do it ourselves."
These public meetings come now as the Secretary of the Interior considers a federal administrative rule to reestablish a government-to-government relationship with the Native Hawaiian community. More than 560 tribes currently hold similar status, with federal considerations on issues ranging from land management to social services.
Mililani Trask, attorney and United Nations expert on indigenous people, said while most Hawaiians wanted federal recognition, the way the government was proceeding was unacceptable.
I think every Hawaiian would like to see a nation-to-nation relationship, but it can only happen when both nations are given a seat at the table," Trask said at the Hilo meeting.
"What you propose here is that the nation that overthrew our peoples and apologized for it without making reparations, that that nation would sit at the table and somehow fashion a procedure, hoping that in the future another true nation would somehow emerge. That will never happen.
Five more public meetings will be held on the mainland U.S. through the beginning of August, and public comment from the Native Hawaiian community and federally recognized Native American tribes will be accepted until August 19.
That goes back to Hawaii Five O classic episode back in early 1970s
There was episode of Hawaiann Nationalist go terror plant on nuke plant remember
The Senate loses two liberal senators and the taxpayers lose a whole state full of gibsmedats.
So much win!
The problem with leaving Hawai’i is that the Hawai’ians are no longer the only people living in Hawai’i. I can see an accomadation being reached where the US Government could buy an island like Lanai from Larry Ellison and then provide it to the Hawai’ians for their exclusive use. But the thought of letting a Hawai’ian minority secede from the US and then rule over the majority is a recipe for failure and bloodshed. It cannot be allowed to happen.
Let's see how fast the Hawaiians can recruit, equip and train an army to defend themselves... without US fed aid.
Give the Hawaiians what they want and see it deteriorate to the same third world level as other islands in Micronesia.
You bet! And if it were made retroactive, our current president wouldn’t be qualified as a citizen.
I don’t see why Hawaii couldn’t revert to an unincorporated status (similar to Puerto Rico). Allow the monarch status to be introduced back, with some democratic reforms, and allow the US to have basing rights. Other than that....revoke the state status and let them be what they desire. Anyone within the US government who wants to compare them to the US Indians....is sadly mistaken.
A kingdom, if you can keep it.
I am all for it. Drops two liberal Senators, sets a prescient for other states. Win-win there. I think that could send a huge message to the Feds on the importance of States' Rights.
Book em Dano, separation 1
Actually, sounds like a good idea, we can even arrange for the king to return so we can all say: Mahalo Obama.
What happens to the other 94%, do they become second class citizens? Or will your social status depend upon when your ancestors arrived? If so, the 25% of Hawaii residents who are caucasians will be in the number two spot, followed by Japanese, Chinese, Filippino, etc.
This is a stupid exercise made possible only because of the racial identity lunacy gripping the country these past few decades.
He’s not anyway
I think the episode I look it up on IMB
It was Clock strike twelve
They probably Hawaii fed building
Can we throw in California, too?
This is just great...the “native” Hawaiians will then demand (and get) welfare payments from US citizens so they can sit around, eat spam, dance and stare at the sunsets. That’s all the world needs is yet another self-entitled class of hangers-ons.
You can’t whinge your way to independence. Try war, Hawaii. That often works.
Sorry Hawaii, the South tried this over 100 years ago and it didn’t go too well. Once you’re in you’re in forever.
Negative. No refunds, no returns...
Ask them for a sign of good faith - BO’s birth certificate.
Take your island and your Democrats too. Bye.
That has been happening for decades. If you go to Waimanalo on the windward side that is the lifestyle, although they see the sunrise. At UH this is the crowd that has had nothing to do with their sociology degrees.
How about this scenario. We let them have Hawaii, they pay us for the bases. Hawaii degenerates to what happened to Subic Bay, Philippines, no welfare, no subsidies, the economy collapses, we all go back and pick up cheap real estate and it becomes a place frozen in time like Cuba.
Works for me. However, we keep our military bases (including Pearl Harbor) and all of the National Parks. The natives can have the rest.
I’m all for this. if they can get freedom from the Federal Government, more power to them.
If it becomes a kingdom—who would be the ruler? It might go to China.
Let’s see now...Hawaii would become a third-world nation and cheaper to vacation. We lose their liberal congress critters, too. Seems we all win.
“Give the Hawaiians what they want and see it deteriorate to the same third world level as other islands in Micronesia.”
Yep. Spent time on Kwaj and Roi. As much money that goes into the place not much improves.
I thought that the whole annexation of Hawaii situation was because of Dole wanting free reign to do their corporate pineapples growing thing. Hawaii should be allowed independence.
Fine with me. Give this leftist, socialist paradise back to whoever wants it. Good riddance!
Obama, who loves it there, can be the first restoration king of the islands with a faggy lei for a crown and an overripe pineapple for an orb.
He can be King Barackamehamehahaha, and his wife can be Queen Michellilihuokalanidavis clad in a royal grass skirt...and they can live in a little grass shack in Kealakekukukuua where the humuhumunukonukuapuaas go swimming by.
Hawaii will be permitted to secede and establish a monarchy. Texas will not be.
Where do I send a donation to this most worthy cause?
As far as I can see that will cost Democrats two Senators and what three congressman? Sounds great to me! Take your poi poi and take a walk.
No refunds, no returns...
I will meet you half way, don’t want a refund....be happy to make the donation. What you do with the king is your business. My suggestion would be to take him up to Poli Lookout and force him to do the honorable thing.
Yeah that episode they were tick off that nobody gave them money I think season 5 they replace Kono with some other dude
OH I see it like Godfather 3
Once you try get out of the business
They pull you back in RIGHT LOL!
Oh we're going, to a Barackilau...
My brother is buried in the Punch Bowl along with many thousands of USA military personnel who died fighting for the USA. I would not want to see a time when the Punch Bowl is not a dedication to those that died for the USA. That being said I suppose the Punch Bowl could be like the memorial cemeteries in Europe that exist to honor USA soldiers that died in Europe. I have no objection to letting Hawaii be a government apart from the USA. It is my understanding that Hawaii was only chosen for statehood was to offset Alaska’s political statehood.
Wow. Another Missouri compromise.
Good grief. Now we’ll suffer the endless Liberal bitching about Hawaii..
To Hell with all that Liberal crap. Give us back our damn sanity!
Question. How so?
We can hand you over to Japan.
In 1820, when Missouri was admitted as a slave state, Maine was broken off from Massachusetts and admitted as a free state, in order to keep the balance in the Senate.
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