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UKRAINE: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov threatens Ukraine with nuclear weapons ^ | 11/7/2014

Posted on 07/11/2014 10:44:15 AM PDT by

Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov promised that Russia will use all forces and means against Ukraine if the latter decides to go to war for Crimea. RIA NOVOSTI reports that Lavrov made this statement on Wednesday after a meeting with his Italian counterpart, Federica Mogherini.

“I would not advise anyone to do that (attack Crimea – Ed.). We have a doctrine of national security; it very clearly prescribes actions that our country must take in such cases.” said Lavrov.

In 2009, the National Security Concept was revised in Putin’s Russia.

According to this concept, Russia has the right to “use all forces and means at its disposal, including nuclear weapons, to repel any armed aggression.”

In March 2014, Russia illegally occupied Ukrainian Crimea, and “included” it in the Russian Federation.

All international organizations, including the UN General Assembly, PACE, OSCE, the U.S., the EU and Ukraine itself have deemed the occupation illegal and recognize Crimea as Ukrainian territory.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; war

1 posted on 07/11/2014 10:44:15 AM PDT by
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Does the U.S. have a doctrine of national security or was it tossed like all the veteran’s medical records and what’s-her-name’s e-mails. Don’t feel like looking for her name.

2 posted on 07/11/2014 10:58:29 AM PDT by huldah1776
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This could easily be the start of WWIII.

3 posted on 07/11/2014 11:02:36 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Lake Living

Without us it looks like...
that’s good

4 posted on 07/11/2014 11:03:44 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: huldah1776

I think U.S. is so very fragile... cannot repond to any security threa while Obama goes on vacation & Congress is afraid to impeach. Maybe, we need martial law to take action on border at least. Round up illegals take them on medical ship & drop off towns in Central America

5 posted on 07/11/2014 11:04:19 AM PDT by
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and fry all that pipeline infrastructure you have there

6 posted on 07/11/2014 11:05:29 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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Ukraine believes we are the only nation among their allies that can help them... yet... we don’t & soon will not be able to.

[I am not a fan of FDR, but check out 1941 State of the Union Speech:
“Therefore, as your President, performing my constitutional duty to “give to the Congress information of the state of the Union,” I find it, unhappily, necessary to report that the future and the safety of our country and of our democracy are overwhelmingly involved in events far beyond our borders.
Armed defense of democratic existence is now being gallantly waged in four continents. If that defense fails, all the population and all the resources of Europe, Asia, Africa and Australasia will be dominated by the conquerors. Let us remember that the total of those populations and their resources in those four continents greatly exceeds the sum total of the population and the resources of the whole of the Western Hemisphere-many times over.

In times like these it is immature—and incidentally, untrue—for anybody to brag that an unprepared America, single-handed, and with one hand tied behind its back, can hold off the whole world.
No realistic American can expect from a dictator’s peace international generosity, or return of true independence, or world disarmament, or freedom of expression, or freedom of religion -or even good business.

Such a peace would bring no security for us or for our neighbors. “Those, who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
As a nation, we may take pride in the fact that we are softhearted; but we cannot afford to be soft-headed.

We must always be wary of those who with sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal preach the “ism” of appeasement.

We must especially beware of that small group of selfish men who would clip the wings of the American eagle in order to feather their own nests.

I have recently pointed out how quickly the tempo of modern warfare could bring into our very midst the physical attack which we must eventually expect if the dictator nations win this war.

There is much loose talk of our immunity from immediate and direct invasion from across the seas. Obviously, as long as the British Navy retains its power, no such danger exists. Even if there were no British Navy, it is not probable that any enemy would be stupid enough to attack us by landing troops in the United States from across thousands of miles of ocean, until it had acquired strategic bases from which to operate.

But we learn much from the lessons of the past years in Europe-particularly the lesson of Norway, whose essential seaports were captured by treachery and surprise built up over a series of years.
The first phase of the invasion of this Hemisphere would not be the landing of regular troops. The necessary strategic points would be occupied by secret agents and their dupes- and great numbers of them are already here, and in Latin America.

As long as the aggressor nations maintain the offensive, they-not we—will choose the time and the place and the method of their attack.

That is why the future of all the American Republics is today in serious danger.
That is why this Annual Message to the Congress is unique in our history.
That is why every member of the Executive Branch of the Government and every member of the Congress faces great responsibility and great accountability.

The need of the moment is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily-almost exclusively—to meeting this foreign peril. For all our domestic problems are now a part of the great emergency.

Just as our national policy in internal affairs has been based upon a decent respect for the rights and the dignity of all our fellow men within our gates, so our national policy in foreign affairs has been based on a decent respect for the rights and dignity of all nations, large and small. And the justice of morality must and will win in the end.

Our national policy is this:
First, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to all-inclusive national defense.
Second, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to full support of all those resolute peoples, everywhere, who are resisting aggression and are thereby keeping war away from our Hemisphere. By this support, we express our determination that the democratic cause shall prevail; and we strengthen the defense and the security of our own nation.
Third, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to the proposition that principles of morality and considerations for our own security will never permit us to acquiesce in a peace dictated by aggressors and sponsored by appeasers. We know that enduring peace cannot be bought at the cost of other people’s freedom.
In the recent national election there was no substantial difference between the two great parties in respect to that national policy. No issue was fought out on this line before the American electorate.

Today it is abundantly evident that American citizens everywhere are demanding and supporting speedy and complete action in recognition of obvious danger.

Therefore, the immediate need is a swift and driving increase in our armament production.
Leaders of industry and labor have responded to our summons. Goals of speed have been set. In some cases these goals are being reached ahead of time; in some cases we are on schedule; in other cases there are slight but not serious delays; and in some cases—and I am sorry to say very important cases—we are all concerned by the slowness of the accomplishment of our plans.
The Army and Navy, however, have made substantial progress during the past year. Actual experience is improving and speeding up our methods of production with every passing day. And today’s best is not good enough for tomorrow.

I am not satisfied with the progress thus far made. The men in charge of the program represent the best in training, in ability, and in patriotism. They are not satisfied with the progress thus far made. None of us will be satisfied until the job is done.
No matter whether the original goal was set too high or too low, our objective is quicker and better results. To give you two illustrations:
We are behind schedule in turning out finished airplanes; we are working day and night to solve the innumerable problems and to catch up.
We are ahead of schedule in building warships but we are working to get even further ahead of that schedule.

To change a whole nation from a basis of peacetime production of implements of peace to a basis of wartime production of implements of war is no small task. And the greatest difficulty comes at the beginning of the program, when new tools, new plant facilities, new assembly lines, and new ship ways must first be constructed before the actual materiel begins to flow steadily and speedily from them.

The Congress, of course, must rightly keep itself informed at all times of the progress of the program. However, there is certain information, as the Congress itself will readily recognize, which, in the interests of our own security and those of the nations that we are supporting, must of needs be kept in confidence.

New circumstances are constantly begetting new needs for our safety. I shall ask this Congress for greatly increased new appropriations and authorizations to carry on what we have begun.
I also ask this Congress for authority and for funds sufficient to manufacture additional munitions and war supplies of many kinds, to be turned over to those nations which are now in actual war with aggressor nations.

Our most useful and immediate role is to act as an arsenal for them as well as for ourselves. They do not need man power, but they do need billions of dollars worth of the weapons of defense. The time is near when they will not be able to pay for them all in ready cash. We cannot, and we will not, tell them that they must surrender, merely because of present inability to pay for the weapons which we know they must have.

I do not recommend that we make them a loan of dollars with which to pay for these weapons—a loan to be repaid in dollars.

I recommend that we make it possible for those nations to continue to obtain war materials in the United States, fitting their orders into our own program. Nearly all their materiel would, if the time ever came, be useful for our own defense.

Taking counsel of expert military and naval authorities, considering what is best for our own security, we are free to decide how much should be kept here and how much should be sent abroad to our friends who by their determined and heroic resistance are giving us time in which to make ready our own defense.

For what we send abroad, we shall be repaid within a reasonable time following the close of hostilities, in similar materials, or, at our option, in other goods of many kinds, which they can produce and which we need.

Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”

In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.

When the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war.
Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.

The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger.

We must all prepare to make the sacrifices that the emergency-almost as serious as war itself—demands. Whatever stands in the way of speed and efficiency in defense preparations must give way to the national need.

UKRAINE Info from Last night:
The militants mìnometnim calculation in the 13 mortars, including twelve 120 mm and 82-mm mortars opened fire on positions of power ATO in the n. p. Red October.

After a massive fire fighters had abandoned their positions. For skinning site popped up search and inspection group of Ukrainian troops.

The group to place the positions of the militants has thrown mortars Russian production. There’s also found a large number of remnants of dry rations of Russian production, the cover on the old helmet exemplar of the ARMED FORCES of RUSSIA with the label belonging to military unit 17 omsbr.

Later it was found that mortars were brought to Ukraine from the territory of the Russian Federation.

After crossing the State border of Ukraine, artillery units from the territory of the Russian Federation, moving trucks, climbed to 1200-1500 m on the lìsoposadcì and the wheat field North of the border, have deployed two mortar batteries, and in the period from 01.45 on 02.05 11.07.2014, carried out shelling location Armed units.

As a result of the shelling, one Ukrainian soldier was killed and five were wounded.

Command of the anti-terrorist operation has sufficient evidence, video/photo material traces of crossing the State border of the State and the use of weapons against the armed forces of Ukraine. (Translated by Bing)

7 posted on 07/11/2014 11:13:09 AM PDT by
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To: molson209

I understand your point, he is just threatening.

8 posted on 07/11/2014 11:17:46 AM PDT by
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Break Russia economically till they relent. Squeeze them till they squeal, like blood thristy pigs they are.

9 posted on 07/11/2014 11:19:31 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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Russia has recreated the Soviet Union

10 posted on 07/11/2014 11:20:19 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: free_life

Winter is coming....
It is going to get awfully cold in Europe soon.

11 posted on 07/11/2014 12:12:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t be so sure, Russia will end up with the short end of the stick watch and see.

12 posted on 07/11/2014 4:04:06 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

If we and UK,Fr,EU,Nato don’t help soon, Ukraine
will be on the short end. Lavrov saber rattling just part
the smoke screen being put on Ukraine, and the world.

Disturbing reports and what they are showing...

‘’’Throughout the day, multiple other witness accounts of the symbol appearing on Russian military units in the region were also uploaded by separate users, strengthening the supporting evidence of the ‘peacekeeping’ convoy operating dangerously near Kharkiv, just over the Russian border’’’

Ok—Bad news.. We, EU, Nato and Ukraine are being suckered into being tied

down in Donbass, Ukraine should at least pull its people from along the Sea of Azov,

where they are in essense locked behind russian forces if they are

needed for attacks elsewhere in a hurry. And backup half their forces to Kharkiv area

and concentrate on building a huge nilitary. The assholes in Donbass will be around

when they get back to them. They are over-concentrating on assholes and will lose

the whole country...Ukraines overall numbers right now under

arms are very small and tied down in Donbass......AND russia’s so-called

‘’peace keepers’’, a hundred thousand of them, will go through into Ukraine

By Kharkiv and have the whole country bagged up...That is what is being planned... And the sightings means the plans are being speeded up..

Will the US, UK, FR, EU, Nato put 100,000 people in there on the border to

stop this, under the auspices of the UN as an armed border patrol.


Damn shame-—Ed

‘’’If we falter in our leadership, we may endanger the peace of the world—and we

shall surely endanger the welfare of our own nation’’’.....HARRY S TRUMAN


13 posted on 07/11/2014 11:14:21 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

I really think tha putin and his people figure that they

will have most of Ukraine,west of Kyiv, physically,

and that the Crimea and especially the Donbass diversions

has got Ukraine and the world off balance and looking the

wrong way, with forces and resources tied up in the wrong

place, and ripe for instant takeover by russia

that they can’t stop. The ATO forces in Donbas will

be flanked.Russia figures this will work as it

appears US,EU, Hato, UN won’t care enough to help...Ed

14 posted on 07/11/2014 11:34:22 PM PDT by hubel458
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