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HHS Bankrolled Catholic and Baptist Church from 2010 to 2013 to Prepare for Obamaís 2014 Invasion!
Liberty News ^ | July 11 2014 | Eric Odom

Posted on 07/11/2014 11:05:17 AM PDT by PoloSec

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To: PieterCasparzen

Sad.


101 posted on 07/11/2014 1:49:57 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Liz

Banana Republic


102 posted on 07/11/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The “church” should not be taking money from the government for ANY cause.


103 posted on 07/11/2014 1:51:04 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Kevin in California

They won’t have to knock down the doors of the churches. They own them.


104 posted on 07/11/2014 1:53:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Dapper 26

An old man once told me “Son, if someone gives you money they’re going to tell you how to spend it.”


105 posted on 07/11/2014 1:54:24 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Lake Living; maggief

President Obama Calls on Congress to Act Now to Fix Border Crisis

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Prepares-for-Presidential-Visit—266461651.html

I did find it under local/ and then the 5th page.


106 posted on 07/11/2014 1:55:19 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: lulu16
I am so ashamed that churches can be bribed and corrupted.

You're assuming 0bama let them in on his plans. I'd bet he snowed the churches too.

107 posted on 07/11/2014 1:57:42 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Your post 93 would appear to make it a near certainty that the BCFS that received the $62mill is the same BCFS that is linked from the BGCT Child/Family Care Institutions page.

Even though that link is partially broken it does take you to the BCFS group operating out of San Antonio. I’m wondering if they didn’t attempt to disable the link.


108 posted on 07/11/2014 1:58:08 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: Steve_Seattle

‘The Middle East - chaos.
U.S. Health Care - chaos.
The U.S. Southern Border - chaos.

Obama - Man of Chaos.’

Very astute. Chaos is, in a sense, the essence of Malignant Narcissism. In addition to abuse, the child who becomes an adult MN experiences uncontrollable chaos. In Obama’s case, his father abandoned him before he was born. His mother turned him over to the full time care of a tranny nanny (who slept in his room). While he was still a child she abandoned him in HI, though she took his sister back with her to Indonesia. In HI, ‘Gramps’ introduced Obama to his “mentor”, pedophile Frank Marshall Davis.

It was a chaotic childhood. [If you’re interested, you can read of the similarly chaotic childhood of another famous MN: Saddam Hussein.] As an adult, Obama, like other MNs, is hell bent on inflicting a similar level of chaos on all those around him. Unfortunately in his case, that subset includes all of America.


109 posted on 07/11/2014 1:58:57 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: All

Those taking in the illegal immigrants get reimbursed. Those who took in Katrina people...did they get reimbursed?


110 posted on 07/11/2014 1:59:08 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: maggief

And don’t forget La Raza. They surely have jumped on the band wagon. Here is the site for Southwest Key Programs
http://www.swkey.org/about/annual_report_financials/

SKP receives $150 million a year helped UAMs be reunified with their families. Never deported, but the set up is handled easily since all you have to do is set a date a year out and when they don’t show, oh well.

Betting SKP gets a lot more money with that 4 billion dangling before them.


111 posted on 07/11/2014 2:17:35 PM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: patriotsoul

When the second and third and fourth and fifth wave of illegals, millions maybe, get here, he will be asking for tens or a hundred billion to buy them houses and nannies.

80+% of these illegals are adults.


112 posted on 07/11/2014 2:19:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PoloSec
"Last year, the Catholic Charities Diocese of Fort Worth received $350,000 from Department of Homeland Security for “citizenship and education training” with a program description of “citizenship and immigration services.”

Between September 2010 and September 2013, the Catholic Charities of Dallas received $823,658 from the Department of Homeland Security for “Citizenship Education Training” for “refugee and entrant assistance.”

These middle two (and far far less expensive) outlays should probably be dropped from the argument: The US government has funded these programs for decades. My wife taught ESL in these programs back in the 1990's for Bosnian, Vietnamese, Cuban and assorted other refugees. They were given four months of assistance, contingent upon daily (all day) attendance at English class instruction, after which they were NOT eligible for unemployment and were required to find a job. Almost all of her students did very well, many of them are now upper middle class and investing in all kinds of enterprises.

The far more massive "unaccompanied minors " items are definitely suspicious.

113 posted on 07/11/2014 2:22:21 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: vladimir998; fishtank
>>No, they persecuted heretics.<<

They must have been heretics. The Catholic Church said so.

114 posted on 07/11/2014 2:57:43 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: cookcounty

Just because something has gone on for a long time does not make it right or wrong.

Wrong things can go on for decades.

All these alien programs are wrong, even if for refugees.

The programs you describe sound good, no doubt your wife’s intentions were wonderful.

However, there is no difference between those programs and what is going on today other than a matter of details of policy and procedure.

The determination of which aliens to accept is subjective, since there is not (yet) a complete open door policy of open citizenship.

How these programs are inevitably used (and arguably their true intent) is to establish a cadre of US-trained minions who will, in the future, work to further the ends of globalism, which nominally is described in US policy as “US interests”. If 1,000 aliens are brought to American and educated and socialized, even if only 50 of them wind up being useful to US or US-led organizations in the worlds of finance, academia, diplomacy, espionage, etc., the programs would be a great success for globalism, as those individuals could return to their home countries and be reliable assets in furthering US interests, or become activists here in America for “causes” in their homeland that the US wishes to promulgate here.

Such manipulations are not work for the Church according to Scripture.

If the Church wishes to help these people, it should help them IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

Otherwise, the Church is aiding and abetting the subversion of US national sovereignty and the criminal action of them entering the US illegally.

The Church should NEVER recommend or condone breaking civil laws, unless those laws are contrary to Scripture. Even if a CORRUPT HEATHEN government PAYS THEM TO HELP PEOPLE BREAK THE CIVIL LAWS. And there’s nothing in the Bible mandating that a nation accept and reward illegal aliens. Meanwhile, the civil laws accept all kinds of murder, theft, blasphemy, sodomy, etc., as being legal, and make it illegal to oppose such laws - and does the same Church recommend or condone breaking those laws ? No. Why ? The government does not pay them to recommend or condone breaking those civil laws.

Far too many so-called missionaries - both Protestant and Roman Catholic - are in fact working to further then ends of geopolitical power-grabbing. Though many may not really even understand how they are being used, many do realize and thus are more political activist than Christian.


115 posted on 07/11/2014 2:59:55 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: glock rocks

Remember that discussion we had on the phone about budgets? Here is a clear example that nothing happens in government that isn’t budgeted for ahead of time.


116 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: scouter

>>As a faithful Catholic, it makes me apoplectic that our bishops are part of this whole criminal enterprise. <<

Organized religion is simply a part of the social engineering system. Hopefully it has more value than most government programs.


117 posted on 07/11/2014 3:08:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: DannyTN

here is how I look at it. Take $1.00 from organized crime, they own you forever.

Same with the Feds. Small town cops get a grant for XXX, feds will one day expect you to comply with any wish they throw at you.

Don’t take a nickel from the Devil and don’t take a penny from the Federal Govt. Ever.


118 posted on 07/11/2014 3:13:25 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Steely Tom

“Liberty News” is the type of organization that shows you there’s smoke. It is up to us to look for the fire.


119 posted on 07/11/2014 3:17:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: sport

For you to think the SBC isn’t involved is almost hilarious. It would be if it wasn’t so heart breaking.


120 posted on 07/11/2014 3:29:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch; maggief

Page 23 shows the numbers

http://www.catholiccharities.org/file/auditted-financials/CC_2012_Final_Audit_Report.pdf

This page
http://www.catholiccharities.org/services/programs-refugee?

has a document to download
Page 11 has the federal grant
http://www.usccb.org/about/migration-and-refugee-services/upload/Annual-Report-2012.pdf


121 posted on 07/11/2014 3:31:35 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: VerySadAmerican
The “church” should not be taking money from the government for ANY cause.

Because he who pays the piper calls the tune? That's generally true, but not an absolute principle.

122 posted on 07/11/2014 3:36:09 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Whenifhow

About 40 years ago I determined that organized religion was corrupt. This is only one more piece of evidence that they are slaves of world governments. Thank you for the ping and data.


123 posted on 07/11/2014 4:27:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: PoloSec; All
Prima facie proof that both organizations are enemies of the American People.

I'd argue that with anyone.

124 posted on 07/11/2014 4:30:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: scouter
Don't give one penny to these Catholic Churches who side with socialists/communists/marxists. They're undoubtedly also teaching Common Core. Remember, no Sunday collection box donation from you. Attend a Catholic Church that holds the same values as your own. I'm Catholic and I know that religion is a business. God is not looking favorably upon these leftist, money grabbing Bishops.
125 posted on 07/11/2014 4:45:48 PM PDT by itssme
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To: B4Ranch

Have you ever read any of the freeper threads where
they have the list of all the dead banker suicides?
I was thinking if this is true that it might explain
why that happened. Because whatever banks the crooks
keep their money in - all of a sudden the money is
being withdrawn for its intended purpose...


126 posted on 07/11/2014 4:47:19 PM PDT by savage woman
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To: Truth29

All the things Obama has done have been in the planning stages for close to a hundred years. This is obvious to me and has been for over 30 years before Obama came on the scene.

I watched and saw our rights slowly, almost imperceptibly being taken away or we gave them up for the children or some other silly motto of the moment. We, thru our sloth, our lack of spine, our constant distractions mistakenly called entertainment that were really indoctrination (Archie Bunker for instance), allowed this and many helped it along thru our own lack of will to make hard choices.
We said what can one man do and promptly gave in to whatever hairbrained idea the left came up with. We weaved the rope that Obama and his kind will hang us with. My generation’s selfishness, self centered thinking, constant chase of pleasure instead of duty, our yearning for instant gratification, our ignoring of the laws of God has bought this to us, and we deserve it. Our children and grandchildren do not, nor the generations that preceded us. I am quite sure they are ashamed of us and have been for some time.

I have known for some years that almost all protestant churches have been infiltrated by the Communists. Pick any church and read the news stories of the last ten or twelve years and you will not be able to ignore the heresy and the twisting of God’s word. It has been out there for years but the pastors choose not to reveal it for fear of losing business. That is what our churches are now, they are businesses, run by wolves in the clothing of sheep.

Obama and his army of true believers will not be turned back by politicians, the very same people who created this quagmire of laws and regulations that now strangle us. Do not waste your time begging for help from that quarter, it is not coming. We are on our own, man without God has always been on his own, those of us that are still capable of thought have God on their side. That is all we need.


127 posted on 07/11/2014 4:49:09 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: scouter

I am sure the Bishops get a nice personal kickback.

The C Church is becoming a criminal enterprise.


128 posted on 07/11/2014 5:01:35 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: blueplum

BCFS’s website does not spell out what the initials mean, does show that they are an arm of the Federal and State governments.


129 posted on 07/11/2014 5:02:24 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Take a look at the news about the United Methodist Church in the last 10 or 12 years if you want a shock. Its hierarchy is totally corrupt.


130 posted on 07/11/2014 5:10:54 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: B4Ranch

Here is the SBC answer to my question.

Dear John:

Thank you for contacting us. As a recent Baptist Press article related to this subject explains: “BCFS is not related to the Southern Baptist Convention. It is listed as a partner organization at the Baptist General Convention of Texas’ website under the Human Care Institutions list of Child/Family Care Institutions. BCFS is among various affiliated organizations that receive funding from the Texas convention, which also elects a portion of the BCFS trustees.”

We hope that this article will be helpful. If you have any questions about BCFS funding or its relationship to the Baptist General Convention of Texas, please contact either of those organizations directly.

We are glad to respond to this question. We are also delighted to share a message of good news. Scripture teaches that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. It is our hope and prayer that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul said it this way, “For by grace you are saved through faith.” If you have already received Jesus Christ as your Lord, we rejoice with you. If, however, you do not know Jesus, we invite you to turn from your sinful past and turn to God through faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord. When we are saved from the penalty of our sins, we experience His cleansing from sin and His transforming power in our lives. A hymn writer has said it well, “Only Jesus can satisfy your soul.” How true!

Office of Convention Communications and Relations

Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention

901 Commerce Street

Nashville, TN 37203

(615) 244-2355


131 posted on 07/11/2014 5:30:17 PM PDT by sport
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To: Gene Eric

Kinda like corporations that love “capitalim” as long as it’s “crony capitalism”.

GE and GM come to mind.


132 posted on 07/11/2014 5:47:19 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: lonestar

Here is the answer to the e-mail I sent.

Dear John:

Thank you for contacting us. As a recent Baptist Press article related to this subject explains: “BCFS is not related to the Southern Baptist Convention. It is listed as a partner organization at the Baptist General Convention of Texas’ website under the Human Care Institutions list of Child/Family Care Institutions. BCFS is among various affiliated organizations that receive funding from the Texas convention, which also elects a portion of the BCFS trustees.”

We hope that this article will be helpful. If you have any questions about BCFS funding or its relationship to the Baptist General Convention of Texas, please contact either of those organizations directly.

We are glad to respond to this question. We are also delighted to share a message of good news. Scripture teaches that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. It is our hope and prayer that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul said it this way, “For by grace you are saved through faith.” If you have already received Jesus Christ as your Lord, we rejoice with you. If, however, you do not know Jesus, we invite you to turn from your sinful past and turn to God through faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord. When we are saved from the penalty of our sins, we experience His cleansing from sin and His transforming power in our lives. A hymn writer has said it well, “Only Jesus can satisfy your soul.” How true!

Office of Convention Communications and Relations

Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention

901 Commerce Street

Nashville, TN 37203

(615) 244-2355


133 posted on 07/11/2014 5:53:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

One big happy family. That’s nice.


134 posted on 07/11/2014 7:37:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: savage woman

I suppose that’s a possibility.


135 posted on 07/11/2014 7:38:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: sport

Thanks!


136 posted on 07/11/2014 8:57:16 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Exactly what I was thinking!


137 posted on 07/11/2014 8:59:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: scouter

Obama Administration Paying Locals $6,000 a Month to HOUSE ONE ILLEGAL MINOR
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3179258/posts


138 posted on 07/12/2014 1:49:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: PoloSec
Catholic Charities of Portland and Rat Gov John Baldacci were responsible for the Somali invasion of Maine.

Hey, wtf, they meant well...

139 posted on 07/12/2014 2:14:28 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

You mean to say perhaps how did this one slip by all the watchful spending eyes. I am livid about this. It is time they all go up there, every single one of them. We don’t need no stinkin federal government that back stabs the citizens.


140 posted on 07/12/2014 5:28:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: PoloSec

I knew the Catholic church has been beaten into submission
to perform exclusively for the Obama by the militant homosexuals,
but I had no clue the Baptists were as weak as well.
They will burn in hell I’m sure, but still I’m very
disappointed to see just how weak these organizations,
not Christianity, have been all along. Brought down by
a coalition of homosexuals under their master Obama.
If this man isn’t pure Evil, then what else could it be?


141 posted on 07/12/2014 5:29:16 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat
I knew the Catholic church has been beaten into submission to perform exclusively for the Obama by the militant homosexuals, but I had no clue the Baptists were as weak as well.

As far as any of us know, the churches believed that they were providing services for “'Unaccompanied Alien Children Project' with a program description of 'Refugee and Entry Assistance.'"

Until we know that church leaders collaborated with Obama's plan deliberately, we are engaging in calumny.

142 posted on 07/12/2014 5:36:44 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: PoloSec

neither are my “denomination:, but I am appalled and dismayed that ANY church calling itself “Christian” would be involved in this scam. (sigh)


143 posted on 07/12/2014 5:53:01 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Ditto. Where’s the outrage from the liberals?


144 posted on 07/12/2014 6:24:04 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: PoloSec

This is exactly why our founding fathers wanted a separation of church and state. The state with a lot of money and power can corrupt the churches to get their support for bad schemes.

The two most important Latin words are cui bono, or who benefits.

Whenever we see or hear of some wild A$$ plot like these illegal kids used as pawns, we need to ask the question who benefits.

Now we know the Catholic Church and the Baptist Churches were getting their share.

Lawyers will get even more.

Then liberals who can’t get a job in the real world will get big paychecks to move these illegal kids around like pawns.

Now Herr Obozo wants $68,000’s per illegal kid to handle them. There are at least 57,000 illegal kids in this scheme.

Multiply $68,000 x 57,000 on your calculators, and you get one hell of a lot of money wasted while our wounded warriors are dying because of lies and fraud in the VA hospitals.

My wife and I for 2 decades have said that illegals in this country are finacially destroying our country from the city to the county to the state levels and to the federal level.


145 posted on 07/12/2014 6:43:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and His Katrina Moment!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Now we know the Catholic Church and the Baptist Churches were getting their share.

Do we? I've heard it said that Baptist Child & Family Services is an independent organization, not connected with any actual church. That they are as baptist as westboro baptist church. I haven't been able to verify or disprove this. Do you know?

146 posted on 07/12/2014 7:09:36 AM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ √ě)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

“Take a look at the news about the United Methodist Church in the last 10 or 12 years if you want a shock. Its hierarchy is totally corrupt.”

The United Methodist Church, aka UMC went progressive about 2 decades ago.

My MIL was born a Methodist and left the church some 80 years later after years of devoted service to her church. Her parents, uncles and aunts and older cousins helped to build the church in a small midwest town in the late 1890’s.

About two decades ago the left wing Methodist bishops started sending left wing pastors, who ranted and raved about the evils of America and the needs of the poor. Then, they sent homosexual pastors to really insult the members.

If the members complained to the liberal Bishops, they were to told to shut up and work with the left wing pastors.

My MIL who was such a great woman, no SIL’s nor DIL’s ever said a bad word about her. Stopped going to her church because of the liberalism and failure of the pastors to reach out the elderly and families in need of spiritual support.

She told her family not to have her funeral service in the Methodist Church, and she picked a non Methodist minister for her funeral. She apparently started a trend, and the church closed a few years later due to lack of members and funds. It is now a library.


147 posted on 07/12/2014 7:19:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and His Katrina Moment!)
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To: lulu16
"I have thought that churches should not be granted special tax status, because the priests I know will not speak their conscious against the government because they want to keep what comes into the coffers completely.”

We have the same problem in the Episcopal Church and other churches.

The feds have enable the churches to pay for their SS, a generous non taxable housing allowance, automobile allowance, special discretionary funds for their use, and of course a smart phone for them and their spouses on top of basically free health insurance.

They will never say anything against a Clintoon, Carter, or Obozo, because if they are caught and recorded doing so. The church will lose its tax exempt status and the pastor's tax free special status.

Of course, Jessie HiJack$on, $harpton, and Obozo’s hate America Black preacher can spew their hatred of Republicans every Sunday and anyother time on tv or the radio with zero repercussions.

148 posted on 07/12/2014 7:29:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and His Katrina Moment!)
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To: BykrBayb

We don’t know.

I don’t know about Texas churches but many churches in most of America have been hammered with lower donations since our economy went south just before Obozo went south. Many are in the red each month because donations each month are not covering their monthly expenses.

Most other non profits are facing the same budget shortfalls and with ObozoCare, the donations just aren’t coming in.

After, the meltdown, I stopped any volunteer work or association with any non profit board or in financial advisory capacity. The reason, they will try or do about anything to survive these harsh economic times.

Many if not most non profits and churches are riddled with left wing progressives, who would do anything to serve the left wing causes and their local angles.


149 posted on 07/12/2014 7:42:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and His Katrina Moment!)
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To: Whenifhow

http://ncbsi.utep.edu/documents/UAC%20Project%20Site%20Visits/UTEP%20NCBSI%20Final%20Report%20March%2020%202014.pdf


150 posted on 07/12/2014 7:49:33 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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