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Kurds seize two oil fields, pull out of Iraqi government
AFP, BBC, NPR, New York Times via Hotair ^ | 07/11/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/11/2014 11:21:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/11/2014 11:21:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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A partition is the only way to solve this. The Kurds do not need the sunnis and shites.


2 posted on 07/11/2014 11:26:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The Kurds are the only worthy people in Iraq, aside from the Christians. Not only are the hard fighters with a passion for liberty, they are also amazingly pro-American. The only place our soldiers could walk around without body armor, and even weapons, and go out for a meal at a local restaurant, was with the Kurds, and every Kurd I have heard of over there have always thanked us.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 11:31:44 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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“...the best the West will probably be able to do is to contain it to Iraq and Syria while promoting democracy in the new, independent Kurdistan.”

An independent Kurdistan... now THERE’S the horse to back... IF the US is smart enough to do it... But I am not optimistic!


4 posted on 07/11/2014 11:45:21 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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Not only are the hard fighters with a passion for liberty, they are also amazingly pro-American.

Then I'm sure obammy will them brought down.

5 posted on 07/11/2014 11:47:33 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Sacajaweau
A partition is the only way to solve this

It seems that the Kurds got it right. My question would be Turkey. It seems that Turkey is okay for now with a stable Kurdistan on their border keeping the ISIS maniacs out. But what happens when the Kurds in Turkey want to leave and join Kurdistan?

I've been trying to learn the history I never learned well enough in college. Could it be that the way out of this mess is a very thorough realignment of the borders that were so badly messed up after WW1?

6 posted on 07/11/2014 11:57:14 AM PDT by grania
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If I understand correctly, Al-Maliki is Obama’s hand-picked dude; even being in there without the approval of the Iraqi “Parliament.”

If so, the Kurds have a good point asking for an PM that is approved of by the representatives.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 12:04:36 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: SeekAndFind

A US Army officer said some years back that the best choice for Iraq would be to let the Kurds run the show.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 12:11:16 PM PDT by lurk
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Are they still tied to communism?


9 posted on 07/11/2014 12:15:01 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There is a large Kurdish population around Nashville and they are the only Muslims I trust.


10 posted on 07/11/2014 12:17:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Even though we left them swinging in the wind. Twice now? Clinton and Obama


11 posted on 07/11/2014 12:20:09 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The Great Saladin of Crusades fame was a Kurd, they are his people. Their section of Iraq was the easiest assignment, so easy that US Army assigned a Nation Guard division to occupy the area.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 12:20:22 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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They’ll need an air force if they’re going to stay free.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 12:21:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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I've been trying to learn the history I never learned well enough in college. Could it be that the way out of this mess is a very thorough realignment of the borders that were so badly messed up after WW1?

Realigning borders is always messy. Further study of the area shows that the place has been conquered and reconquered time and again in recorded history. It is such a mess that borders cannot and will not solve the myriad of problems there.

Once solution is to let them fight it out and the last man standing gets the dubious prize. And before he sits down to dinner, someone else will be challenging him for the prize.

14 posted on 07/11/2014 12:31:49 PM PDT by Parmy
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The 3 way partition of Iraq looks great on paper to Westerners who see Kurds in the North, Sunnis in the middle, and Shi’ites in the South+Baghdad.

What could go wrong?!

...but that’s the worst of all worlds because that removes the incentive for the Kurds and Shi’ites to police the Sunnis in the middle...Sunnis who have no oil in the middle. Iraq’s oil is in the North and South.

Leaving the middle to the Sunnis creates a defacto Sunni caliphate. Terror central. With no oil.

What do you think the Sunnis are going to do...left alone from the influence of Baghdad?!

Poof!

You just created ISIL’s dream state. Congrats! World terror just doubled because a 3 way partition looked good to stupid Westerners on paper.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 12:38:38 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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For years I have had a lot of sympathy for the Kurds, at least in general. The Kurdish part of Iraq has apparently flourished in the last few decades.

At this point I almost feel like emulating the Kurds. After all we have a president who is “has become hysterical and has lost his balance.”


16 posted on 07/11/2014 12:49:16 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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Let the Kurds have the oil fields and refinery rather than ISIS. They fight ISIS.

The southern Iraqi oilfields are too close to Kuwait and Saudi and I doubt that the US and Iran will allow ISIS to get a hold of them.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 12:54:24 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 1010RD

Is Islam better than communism?


18 posted on 07/11/2014 12:59:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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Turkey (our NATO ally) and Iran will not allow an independent Kurdistan, nor give up territory to its nationalists, both have fought with Kurd groups for years and deem them “terrorists”

Kurdish self-determination as part of a loose “Iraq” federation - tolerated perhaps

independent nation - not


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