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Chris McDaniel camp accuses @DelbertHosemann of deliberately misleading clerks on voting regs #mssen
Y'all Politics ^ | July 11, 2014 | Y'all Politics Poster unknown

Posted on 07/11/2014 12:02:35 PM PDT by Hostage

McDaniel Calls on Secretary of State to Direct Clerks to Provide Access to Election Records, Announces July 16 Press Conference

Republican Chris McDaniel today called on Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann to clarify the rules for Circuit Clerks regarding access to election records and announced a Wednesday morning press conference to discuss the election records his team has examined thus far.

“For the last two weeks, more than two hundred volunteers for from all over Mississippi have worked tirelessly in an effort to gain access to election records in order to ensure the integrity of the primary process in Mississippi,” McDaniel said. "We have found over 8,300 questionable ballots cast, many of which were unquestionably cast by voters ineligible to participate in the June 24th runoff election."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cochran; mcdaniel; mississippirunoff
This is well-written and up-to-the minute information on the fraud and corruption in Mississippi.

McDaniel camp now claiming to have found 8300 ballot irregularities.

Calls on Hosemann to explain ballot access rules by next Wednesday.

This is good fighting. Staying in front of the news on a daily basis often multiple times per day. Prevents leftist news media from getting a toehold on the headlines.

1 posted on 07/11/2014 12:02:35 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

That should be enough to over turn the election. However will justice prevail?


2 posted on 07/11/2014 12:04:43 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Kennard; Paine in the Neck; Ben Ficklin; Salvation; Uncle Chip; House Atreides; Lake Living; ...

“In the large majority of Mississippi’s counties, our volunteers have been greeted warmly by conscientious Circuit Clerks who take their jobs very seriously,” McDaniel continued.

“Sadly, however, our volunteers have been unable to gain complete access to unredacted poll books in approximately 58 counties, and also have not been granted access to absentee records in approximately 24 counties,” McDaniel said. “Unfortunately we have had to pursue further legal remedies in order to gain access to election records,” McDaniel said. “In addition, even though we’ve been granted access to poll books in many counties, we have often not been allowed to view Democratic and Republican books at the same time, cross referencing next to impossible.”

“As a result of the misleading information coming from the Secretary of State’s office, many Clerks were confused about proper disclosure of election materials to the candidates. This has forced the Clerks and my team to needlessly expend resources on mandamus requests for materials that the statutes clearly say I am entitled to review,” McDaniel stated.

“Thankfully most of the Clerks understood that our request was not a public document request, but was a request made by a candidate or designee. The records were therefore not subject to redaction, and access should have been granted,” he continued.
“Under Mississippi state law, the candidate’s designee has the unfettered right to review unredacted poll books. Sadly, Mr. Hosemann’s attorney Kim Turner disseminated inaccurate information which apparently confused some the Clerks with respect to the ability of candidates and designees to view election records,” said McDaniel .

“It appears the message Delbert Hosemann’s office sent to Circuit Clerks was intended to confuse the Clerks so as to prevent full and unfettered access and disclosure of the poll books to our volunteers,” McDaniel continued.
“Secretary of State Hosemann should clarify the policy for the Clerks so my campaign’s designees can be granted access to election records,” he said.

“Our volunteers will continue to examine those election records they’re able to gain access to, and on Wednesday, July 16th, we will hold a press conference in Jackson to discuss the evidence we have documented and our next steps,” McDaniel concluded.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 12:05:10 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: WKB

Please ping the Mississippi list, thanks.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 12:05:56 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

McDaniel should set a tight time period of discovery. Submit the results to a legal entity and await that verdict. If Cochran is seen to be the winner after this is done, McDaniel needs to move on. This interparty warfare gives the Dem candidate a new advantage of appearing more stable and consistent.


5 posted on 07/11/2014 12:06:33 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

McDaniel is fighting the good fight. His supporters have already revealed in abundance that the Cochran campaign plays dirty.

He deserves our support, so even if the powers in Mississippi make him a martyr, his experiences confronting the corrupt GOP-E will not be forgotten elsewhere.


6 posted on 07/11/2014 12:13:19 PM PDT by research99
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To: Parley Baer

There will be a challenge first and soon to the State GOP and MS SOS Office who will for sure reject it because they are part and parcel to the fraud and corruption.

Then the challenge will be filed in a state court. I have no knowledge of when it would be expected to be heard. But, Chris McDaniel has expressed that the first challenge will be filed next week and I think there is also a deadline then.

So estimating the court challenge will be filed the week after next if not late next week, then the court should hear the McDaniel Campaign by late August, possibly sooner. I estimate with a wave of the hand that arguments will last a week and a decision will be forthcoming by mid-September.

Now assuming the decision goes against McDaniel in state court, he then has to walk on over to federal court and file for a federal injunction against MS state election law barring him from running as an independent or as a write-in.

Now he can print a million stickers with his name as part of a write-in campaign and have them available via his volunteers at every voting poll station and he can ask the federal court to enjoin the state of MS to send a write-in sticker to every absentee ballot address.

I think he will prevail in state court but it is now clear that MS has a lot of Barbour gang members in every nook and cranny of that state. On the other hand there are still a lot of fine lawyers, judges and courtrooms in Mississippi that take justice seriously.

We will see.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 12:17:49 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: lee martell

This is what is wrong with our party - they lay down, give up and move on - to their own detriment. The DEMS NEVER move on - NEVER! I’m sick of our side just letting this corruption continue.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 12:17:55 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: lee martell

The hell with that for this fight.

Man you’da been a hoot on D Day.


9 posted on 07/11/2014 12:28:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Hostage
We have found over 8,300 questionable ballots cast

That's enough for a new election -- and a criminal investigation.

10 posted on 07/11/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: research99; lee martell

I agree with research99, this case in Mississippi has changed the game.

We now know that this is not a fight between republicans and democrats. This is a fight between republican-democrats and tea party-conservatives.

What has happened and seen cannot be unseen. The bell has already rung and there’s no way to unring the bell.

This is lethal to the republican party.

I do believe we could see a new party emerge and this party would be viable and capable of forming a coalition of the majority.

A realistic estimate of the new majority coalition would comprise:

* 15-20 million of the base (former republicans)
* 18-22 million of independents
* 6 million Perot blue collar voters
* 2 million Reagan democrats
* 2 million libertarians

All in all about 43-52 million voters.

And then there is a ‘wake effect’ of drawing in more republicans after they have searched their hearts and see the viability of the new party.

Although together the democrats and republicans could garner more voters in total, the democrats and republicans would not be able to overcome separately the numbers of the new party, and there is no possibility that those two parties would merge officially any time soon.

What will make all this a reality is about $100 million which is $5-$10 from each voter. It’s doable and yours truly is working on it daily.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 12:32:32 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: research99
McDaniel should give a real good, inspirational speech about why he wants to be a US Senator for Mississippi. Stop talking about the fraud for awhile and lay out a vision.

They only way he'll maintain support through the process is to have people believe he should be the Senator from Mississippi. JMHO

12 posted on 07/11/2014 12:36:47 PM PDT by grania
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To: Hostage

With some 130,000,000 popular votes across the county your analysis depends upon where the
40-53 million votes are generated. When it all said and done the election is currently
decided in a select few states. How a shift would occur to put a 3rd party in place is yet to
be determined. Perot got something like 20 million in ‘92 and 8 million in ‘96. Things
change and maybe the public will see things differently this time around.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by deport
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To: grania

I agree. Switch it up. Go after Childers, too, and act like the presumed nominee that he is. And when folks question him, mention 8,300 invalid ballots and Cochran's dementia.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 12:49:12 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ain’t that the truth?
It’s embarrassing being connected with weak sisters like Ann Coulter “concerned” about what Democrats and others think about us.
I hope McDaniel fights until the last dog dies.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 12:53:01 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: deport

The best political demographic analysts came to the same general conclusion regarding the presidential election of 2012.

It was the 6 million+ strong blue collar ‘Perot’ demographic that would not under any circumstances vote for Romney. And Obama was never even a consideration.

So those 6 million+ voters ‘stayed home’ or ‘sat it out’ or ‘left it blank’. But they will certainly be there for a conservative that they TRUST.

The republican party has lost TRUST and they don’t think it’s necessary to gain it, why?

I saw the signs in the second term of the Bush presidency. I saw clear symptoms during the 2008 campaign of John McCain. It became painfully obvious in the 2012 Romney campaign.

Where and when did it start and why? The republican party leadership tried as hard as they could to pass ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ in 2006. This is where the base revolted and more importantly revenues and donations to the republican leadership and campaign orgs started to decline.

Grasp that last part for a minute: revenues and donations dried up.

It is unfortunate to see unintended consequences arise in the logic of a conservative voter who decides he or she has had enough of the GOP and their betrayal or lack of faithful representation. The logic is simple “If those republicans want more of my money, they are going to have to talk the talk and walk the walk” and so on. One would hope that the GOP would get the message and change their views and positions.

But that’s not what happened.

During the 2000s, property values went through the roof in a gigantic bubble and life in and around the Beltway became quite expensive. Money was and became more so the overriding consideration of political operations. Principles and promises were ‘nice talk’ but everyone knew what was truly important. Republicans in DC and other parts, realizing that revenue and donations were in decline, could not find funds to close the gap and they could no longer make a closing sales pitch to the base because there was very little TRUST.

So what did they do? They phoned fat cats via their law firms on K street and Wall Street. They went on a search of wealthy candidates to sell their skill set of running campaigns. They found Carly Fiorina, and Meg Whitman and John McCain (wife inherited mob-tied hard liquor business) and Mitt Romney and anyone else that wanted to buy a seat at the gambling table of elections. And there were all kinds of way to reduce candidates upfront out of pocket expense through reimbursements to campaigns which could be kept regardless if the candidate won or lost. Seats were for sale. Principles were not so important. Of course candidates were coached and briefed on what to say and how to say it and some of the candidates like McCain and Romney were very good liars.

So there it is. The republican leadership doesn’t give a damn about our views on limited government or our tax situations. For sure they will look concerned as they choose how to parce their words to voters.

Government itself relies less and less on the taxpayer. Most taxes are just transfer payments to social security and medicare and other entitlements. The bloat of government is financed via deficit spending, the Federal Reserve credit card so to speak.

Here’s the mindset of a typical DC pol or hack:

“If I have virtually unlimited credit, why do I need to go and earn a salary? I can pay my interest payments with more borrowing. Well I might act like I am working only because there is a principle out there of a work ethic and I don’t want to run afoul of people’s views of that principle. So I’ll just kind of tell everybody what they want to hear. And if I am good at it, then I get to continue living the lie.”

And then there are pathological liars in DC that are such good liars because they actually believe their own lies or lies that others have persuaded them to adopt, for example Lindsey Graham claiming the SC Coast Line was receding and sea levels were arising due to man-made global warming.

So all the above is describing how the GOP is finished, for now. If their current leadership ever abandoned the GOP carcass, I would bet that same leadership would be looking for positions with the democrats or some media contracts to mark time with.

My bet is there is a coalition of voters that badly want the federal government to be trustworthy. Any chart of the trust or favorability of the White House or Congress over the last 5 decades shows a general trend downwards. The people that are shaking their heads at those in government, these same people would jump at an opportunity to nod their heads for leaders they can TRUST.


16 posted on 07/11/2014 1:31:37 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Don’t get me wrong. I’m a supporter and a contributor to Chris McDaniel, but I can’t find any place where he said he has 8300 ballot irregularities. Where did that number come from?


17 posted on 07/11/2014 1:37:24 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

It’s right in the article posted.

Here’s another link that mentions it.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/politicalledger/2014/07/11/mcdaniel-hosemann-election-runoff-politics/12536059/


18 posted on 07/11/2014 1:46:20 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: jmaroneps37

See above in the author’s byline.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 1:46:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Hostage; All
your post, seems to cover all the bases..
Ronnie spoke w/ unfettered love of country,
he resisted the ways of "the DC insiders".

20 posted on 07/11/2014 1:47:59 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Hostage

Well, Eric Cantor is no longer living the lie and may his tribe increase ;- )


21 posted on 07/11/2014 1:49:35 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: lee martell

I’m sure what you meant to say was this: Cochran’s people need to follow the law and allow McDaniel’s investigators access to the documents they have intentionally withheld. The sooner the investigation is complete, the sooner the election can proceed. As long as they continue to hide things, no one will be able to conduct a campaign.

But doubt that will happen because Cochran’s people will be going to jail if the truth gets out and CYA takes time. Cochran and his GOPe friends will be happy to give the dem candidate plenty of advantage as long as it keeps them out of jail and the conservative out of office.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 1:58:41 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Hostage; paintriot; Lil Flower; Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; ...

Ping


23 posted on 07/11/2014 2:01:59 PM PDT by WKB
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To: lee martell

Get your drift, but disagree with you. Cochran cannot be allowed to attain reelection for the senate. If the primary election cannot be thrown out, then McDaniel needs to run as a write-in.

To allow Cochran to return to the senate would be demeaning to the entire democratic election process. The GOPe need to be severly punished for their actions in this matter.

The ends sometimes justifies the means, but not in this case. Not by a mile...


24 posted on 07/11/2014 2:17:51 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Waryone

This helps my understanding of a local Mississippi story that has now developed national significance. Thanks for laying it out. Yes, I would agree with your position, given all the factoids and players involved.


25 posted on 07/11/2014 2:18:20 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Hostage

So, I guess the republicans have decided that acting like democrats is better than letting the real winner have the seat. I’d hate to see the republicans lose big this November, but I think that they are playing a dangerous game here. If we are not allowed to determine that the election was fair o r fraudulent, then we have lost society to a point of no turning back....which I really do believe is true.

I’ve been in more fervent and constant prayer than ever before, both for America and for Israel.


26 posted on 07/11/2014 2:19:02 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Hostage

You said: McDaniel camp now claiming to have found 8300 ballot irregularities.

The announcement said: “We have found over 8,300 questionable ballots cast, MANY of which were unquestionably cast by voters ineligible to participate in the June 24th runoff election.”

I see a difference.


27 posted on 07/11/2014 2:24:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: lee martell

is that you, ann coulter???


28 posted on 07/11/2014 2:28:03 PM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Shery

You sound a lot like the Missouri GOP Chair who is also a member of the RNC.

There is hope. Check out what he said here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3178970/posts


29 posted on 07/11/2014 2:29:39 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I am sure there are differences but I don’t know what they are. How about you? You got some insight to share?


30 posted on 07/11/2014 2:30:39 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Wednesday, July 16th, we will hold a press conference in Jackson to discuss the evidence we have documented and our next steps,” McDaniel concluded.
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Can’t wait.


31 posted on 07/11/2014 5:21:09 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: lee martell

This interparty warfare gives the Dem candidate a new advantage of appearing more stable and consistent.
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Well, DUH!!! I’d say, given what we’ve been through with this GOP Primary, the Dem IS more stable than the Mississippi GOP. You can thank the Cochran/Barbour team for that. The Dems are ecstatic about this race. They feel that they have a shot to take this seat. Look for a lot of Liberal bucks to flow into Childers’ coffers in the fall. He’s already wooing disgruntled McDaniel supporters, reminding them that he is Pro-Life and Pro-2nd Amendment. If Chris is kept off of the ballot, most of his supporters will just skip the Senate race and vote down-ballot. Some will actually vote for Childers.


32 posted on 07/11/2014 5:29:07 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

“We have found over 8,300 questionable ballots cast, many of which were unquestionably cast by voters ineligible to participate in the June 24th runoff election.”
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I’d feel better if he’d said “...8,300 illegal ballots cast...


33 posted on 07/11/2014 5:33:59 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: grania

McDaniel should give a real good, inspirational speech about why he wants to be a US Senator for Mississippi. Stop talking about the fraud for awhile and lay out a vision.
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WHAT??? Are you serious? That’s what he did during the campaign. This is a legal battle. If you’ve been the victim of an armed robbery, you go into court and tell the judge what the perpetrator did to you and ask for justice. You don’t go into court and say: “I demand justice because I’m a really nice guy and I attend PTA Meetings.” Geesh grania... you know better than that.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 5:38:38 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: so_real

I agree. Switch it up. Go after Childers, too, and act like the presumed nominee that he is. And when folks question him, mention 8,300 invalid ballots and Cochran’s dementia.
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What good will that do if he’s not on the ballot? There will be plenty of time to go after Childers in the Fall Campaign. He has got to get on the ballot first. Please see my Post #34 to grania.


35 posted on 07/11/2014 5:42:01 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: jmaroneps37

Read the Article. He said it.


36 posted on 07/11/2014 5:43:23 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: Hostage
This is a fight between republican-democrats and tea party-conservatives.

What has happened and seen cannot be unseen. The bell has already rung and there’s no way to unring the bell.

This is lethal to the republican party.

I do believe we could see a new party emerge and this party would be viable and capable of forming a coalition of the majority.

Exactly correct. After the Nov. 2014 elections, it is time to start that new party. The GOP-e can go to blazes.

37 posted on 07/11/2014 5:51:05 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Din Maker
I’d feel better if he’d said “...8,300 illegal ballots cast...

Me, too. His statement is not the definitive statement that I would like to see. The fact that he's waiting until next Wednesday to make the announcement suggests that he doesn't yet have enough unquestionable violations to attempt to overturn the election. Hopefully, by Wednesday, he will.

38 posted on 07/11/2014 6:52:01 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker
Geesh grania...you know better than that

It's McDaniel who should "know better than that". He won when he developed a strong, inspirational message. While he's fighting the court battle, he has to retain and enhance that he's the right person to be US Senator. A press conference or some advertising conveying his positive message while the court battle is going on will remind people why this fight must be fought and won.

39 posted on 07/12/2014 4:33:37 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

OK .... I see where you’re coming from.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 5:35:01 AM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: Hostage

I’ve used up my Clarion free subscription but I’ve found it elsewhere thanks.


41 posted on 07/12/2014 7:15:31 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: deport

And Perot still has ZERO electoral votes


42 posted on 07/12/2014 7:41:23 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob
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To: Din Maker

I agree he must keep fighting the legal battle. Don't get me wrong. But the GOP-E is trying to sweep this under the rug and say the show's over, and that Cochran is the presumptive nominee. By acting like the presumptive nominee himself, it disrupts the GOP-E agenda and they are forced to keep McDaniel and the fraud in the spotlight.


43 posted on 07/13/2014 9:27:15 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

Good point... very good point.


44 posted on 07/14/2014 8:12:50 AM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: Hostage

for later.


45 posted on 07/14/2014 8:21:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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