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Hagel: ISIS poses an 'imminent' threat to US
The Hill ^ | 07/09/14 04:15 PM EDT | Kristina Wong

Posted on 07/11/2014 2:32:29 PM PDT by robowombat

Hagel: ISIS poses an 'imminent' threat to US

By Kristina Wong - 07/09/14 04:15 PM EDT

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday the Sunni fundamentalist group the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) poses a threat not just to the government in Baghdad, but to the United States as well.

"This country should not make any mistake on this, nor anyone in Congress — this is a threat to our country," Hagel said while meeting with troops at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia.

"This is a force that is sophisticated. It's dynamic, it's strong, it's organized, it's well-financed, it's competent, [ISIS]. And it is a threat to our allies all over the Middle East. It's a threat to Europe. It's a threat to every stabilized country on Earth, and it's a threat to us," Hagel said.

He added that the Pentagon was getting daily assessments from troops deployed on the ground in Iraq, and the "finality of those assessments will be completed in the next few days." The administration has said that assessment would form the basis of next steps for the U.S. in Iraq, which is battling a terrorist takeover by ISIS.

"We'll have a further context of what recommendations they'll make. In the meantime, we're doing everything we can, as I said in those two general areas, protect our people and assist [Iraqi Security Forces] in their efforts to defeat [ISIS]," Hagel said.

In response to a threat to Baghdad, President Obama has ordered about 650 U.S. troops to Iraq, in addition to the 100 already there.

Those troops are helping to reinforce the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and other diplomatic facilities, as well as to conduct assessments on the security situation, which includes the flying of armed and unarmed drones.

"We are assisting in every way we can to help the Iraqi people defeat the brutal fundamentalists," Hagel said.

"[ISIS] may not appear to be an imminent threat to the United States. It is a threat to the United States. It is a threat, clear threat to our partners in that area, and it is imminent," he said.


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'Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday the Sunni fundamentalist group the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) poses a threat not just to the government in Baghdad, but to the United States as well.

"This country should not make any mistake on this, nor anyone in Congress — this is a threat to our country," Hagel said while meeting with troops at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay in Georgia.'

This is a very significant thing for the Secdef to say. It looks like some sort of administration test to see if a hostile response comes from Congress. If it does, the Prez wasn't involved, it was just a cabinet officer overstepping. If not it is the first straw in the wind that something more than half assed NEO Ops planning and some SOF being deployed may be required. This is interesting. The phrase 'imminent threat' normally is the step before a warning order for launching an operation.

1 posted on 07/11/2014 2:32:29 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Mostly due to our wide open border...


2 posted on 07/11/2014 2:33:10 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: robowombat; Ingtar

Obama can’t be bothered. He has the agents stationed 45 miles NORTH of the border.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 2:34:53 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: robowombat

Hagel: ISIS poses an ‘imminent’ threat to US

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Uh-oh. Barky and Moose better cancel their two week vacation to Martha’s Vineyard.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 2:34:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: robowombat

If they come here and start chopping our heads off I would hope that Hussein would maybe do something for once. If they come thru the border it lays squarely on Hussein’s shoulders and the democrats in congress who want open borders, that goes for the RINOS to—heck, it’s all of Congress’s fault.


5 posted on 07/11/2014 2:36:55 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: robowombat

What are they going to do make us raise a billion foreign children?


6 posted on 07/11/2014 2:37:43 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: robowombat

Thanks for posting this. I’d not seen it elsewhere, and it should have gotten more coverage.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 2:41:14 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: robowombat

LOL. Your boss, and you, too, Chuckles.

Hey, didn’t some of us try to warn your boss and you about cutting and running from Iraq?

Yep.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 2:43:41 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: robowombat

The rat bastards brought us to this point, now they want us to be frightened


9 posted on 07/11/2014 2:43:43 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: robowombat

Hagel created and trained ISIS at Obama’s orders, so he must know what their mission is, right?

ISIS has now declared itself to be The Islamic Caliphate.

That is, in their minds, a global government.
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10 posted on 07/11/2014 2:50:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ronnie raygun; All
‘The rat bastards brought us to this point, now they want us to be frightened’

This statement is a lot more than just propaganda. The words the SecDef used have a specific meaning within the defense establishment. They are the equivalent of the phrase ‘intolerable provocation’ in diplomatic parlance. Normally such a remark would be a clear signal to all the services to begin operation execution planning immediately. Only the phrase ‘war warning’ or ‘operational execution alert’ are closer to directing the armed services to be ready to go into combat operations immediately upon command.

11 posted on 07/11/2014 2:56:33 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Impossible.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 2:57:27 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: robowombat

Good point, but who will be military be directed against?


13 posted on 07/11/2014 2:58:26 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: Enterprise

The border patrol has agents/vehicles stationed in Louisiana. Travel time from the closest border crossing is about 14 hours. No foolin. I have seen border patrol in Baton Rouge. Sitting there. Watching. Our tax dollars at not work.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: dandiegirl

“If they come here and start chopping our heads off I would hope that Hussein would maybe do something for once.”

Maybe he’d sharpen the sword?


15 posted on 07/11/2014 3:03:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Texas resident
‘Good point, but who will be military be directed against?’

IMHO this is a straw in the wind to start the clock running on a really big Noncombatant Evacuation Operation (NEO) which can be embedded in some sort of an expedited material support operation for the Iraqi government if ISIS appears to be successfully isolating Baghdad or about to penetrate the security screen around Baghdad. The number of Americans in Iraq with the US government, USG contractors, Non Government Organizations and International organizations as well as other westerners attached to the last two number in the thousands. If the core around Baghdad appears to be crumbling then you can imagine what would be the fate of these people and it would be broadcast live on TV. So there is both a component of national interest in pushing hardware into Iraq to bolster what is still seen as a US proxy state and in protecting the physical safety of as many foreign nationals trapped in country as possible and one of political calculation. The Mahdi and his handlers do not want the sequel to the fall of Khartoum broadcast ‘Live at 6’ on CBS.

16 posted on 07/11/2014 3:06:33 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Hey, Chuck. I've got a great idea on how to counter this dire threat...

Let's pink slip our returning combat veterans and use the money to hire lawyers for the "children" coming across our almost completely unguarded southern border. Then we'll release these illegal aliens - whom we don't know and really don't have a clue about who they are or where they will end up - all over the country in the hopes they'll someday show up again.

Oh, wait. The Administration you are a part of is already doing that. Never mind.

17 posted on 07/11/2014 3:20:48 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: robowombat

I’m convinced nuclear weapons will be used again in the near future thanks to Obama.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 3:25:26 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: robowombat

Hagel: ISIS poses an ‘imminent’ threat to US

No more so then the muslims that were in control. They all follow islam and islam dictates that we all die...


19 posted on 07/11/2014 3:37:14 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Bullish

ISIS has been given money and arms by Clown Prince nobama and his idiot, kerry. Has hagel lost his mind going against the “friends” of Clown Prince nobama? I thought these ISIS murderers were called “moderates” in Syria by these fools and the loser-fool, h clintoon (and by mclame who visited them in syria). What a web these lawless criminals weave.


20 posted on 07/11/2014 3:43:19 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: LucyT

Ping


21 posted on 07/11/2014 3:45:45 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Texas resident

Watch how fast the Government gets agents down to the Border if Minutemen or Militia members arrive.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 3:58:03 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: hal ogen

“ISIS has been given money and arms by Clown Prince nobama and his idiot, kerry.”

Exactly and we will pay for this. By the way you can include McCain in on this fiasco.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 4:00:40 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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Hagel: ISIS poses an 'imminent' threat to US

That poses a real problem for Hagel, since if he wants to go after the ISIS leader, he's going to have to get past the Secret Service guys at the White House front door.

24 posted on 07/11/2014 4:07:52 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Velveeta; Old Sarge; null and void; Mossad1967; brucecw; EnigmaticAnomaly; KylaStarr; Califreak; ...

Hagel: ISIS poses an 'imminent' threat to US

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday the Sunni fundamentalist group the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) poses a threat not just to the government in Baghdad, but to the United States as well.

"This country should not make any mistake on this, nor anyone in Congress — this is a threat to our country"

Thanks, Vel.

25 posted on 07/11/2014 4:11:50 PM PDT by LucyT (zer0 is draining & overloading the system in order to cause chaos and economic collapse.)
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To: Ingtar

ISIS is a threat to us, so let’s give them half a billion and training.


26 posted on 07/11/2014 4:22:09 PM PDT by lurk
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To: ronnie raygun

Frightened people are easier to control, and more willing to give up their God given rights.


27 posted on 07/11/2014 4:38:33 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: robowombat

Chuckie, baby, how about, then, you NOT support THAT SAME GROUP in Syria.

...or am I asking for too much?


28 posted on 07/11/2014 5:00:44 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Bullish

Whose weapons?

Used where?

By whom?


29 posted on 07/11/2014 5:12:08 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: BobL
Mr. Hegel is a shallow, inexperienced blowhard with no credibility.
Is ISIS composed of good guys? No.
Is ISIS any more of a threat than hundreds of other Bad Guy Groups? No.
Going into any war scenario with our planes grounded, our Carriers in port, and our top command in total disarray, is not the time to go looking for a fight.
We sent two B-2s to Europe and one hit a bird and has been taken out of service.
We sent two Destroyers into the Black Sea and one was beached by her Captain.
Rebuild and Reform our forces into a Real Military. Then talk all froggy.
TWB
30 posted on 07/11/2014 6:01:05 PM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: TWhiteBear

I hear you, brother.

And just this week, like I read every couple of months, we spend more money on our military than the next 10 (or more) countries combined.

Could we defeat them in battle, if they all decided to fight us at the same time...NO WAY. Could we beat any of them if all others stayed out - hopefully.

Are we as strong as those numbers imply - NOT EVEN CLOSE.


31 posted on 07/11/2014 7:52:55 PM PDT by BobL
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To: robowombat; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


32 posted on 07/11/2014 9:56:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: robowombat

This administration is an “imminent threat: to the US!


33 posted on 07/12/2014 6:44:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: robowombat

This administration is an “imminent threat: to the US!


34 posted on 07/12/2014 6:44:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: robowombat
When a nuke goes off in the US from a suitcase bomb, the Tea Party folks who called for gutting the US military because of the Sequester can assemble the blame.

There was a reasonable way to cut Defense Spending. This wasn't it.

We cut so fast that the US military is now a hollow force.

But hey, we gots Da Fud Stamp!

35 posted on 07/12/2014 11:27:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: robowombat

ISIS does not present an imminent threat to the US. It presents a potential threat to the US.

Now, if he’s talking about our troops or huge diplomatic staff now in Iraq, then that could be seen as imminent. But, that is not a threat to the “United States of America”.

And, a word smith could argue that threatening our embassy or troops is a legal threat to the homeland, but Benghazi sort of negates such an effort at sophistry.


36 posted on 07/12/2014 12:40:12 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SkyPilot

If you imagine all that is the nation as a huge business, it is a business generating a GDP, iirc, of about 18 trillion a year. The ownership takes about 4 trillion out of it each year to pay off the employees, stakeholders, stockholders. They borrow, iirc, another 2 trillion, so they spend 6 trillion out of a total generation capacity of 18 trillion.

That 18 trillion funds other levels of government, people’s incomes, business transactions, everything imaginable, all the way down to little Suzy buying a bag of M&Ms.

The government is directly taking about 22.3% out of the system.

The question is this: what percent can the ownership take out before they injure the ability of that business to function?


37 posted on 07/12/2014 12:47:39 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
ISIS does not present an imminent threat to the US. It presents a potential threat to the US.

I think it is threat the US populace is so focused on visual imagery as a result of the electronic culture that BHO and friends know that an Iraqi version of the fall of Saigon would get even the brain numbed sensualists that make up a large part of the population to blame BHO for the burning city and mass murder they would be watching fascinated and horrified at the same time. So to save his posterior BHO will do something to try and prop up the Iraqi government. There is also the problem I alluded to of the thousands of US and western nationals working in Iraq including a good many females. You can imagine what would happen to these people if ISIS gets into Baghdad. Watching American or just western females paraded around naked and bound by the ISIS warriors would also deal a possibly fatal blow to the Mahdi's legacy. A real NEO op would be very big.and involve several thousand boots on the ground and a lot of combat and transport air assets so the stage is being set. Unfortunately the Mahdi and his handlers don't know anything about milops and take forever to agree on a course of action so things could get very messy.

38 posted on 07/12/2014 3:40:40 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
"This is a force that is sophisticated. It's dynamic, it's strong, it's organized, it's well-financed, it's competent, [ISIS]. And it is a threat to our allies all over the Middle East. It's a threat to Europe. It's a threat to every stabilized country on Earth, and it's a threat to us," Hagel said.

...and we missed it.

39 posted on 07/14/2014 10:56:50 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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