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Do Your Genes Make You a Democrat?
New York Magazine ^ | July 11, 2014 | Jesse Singal

Posted on 07/11/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Earlier this week in the New York Times, Thomas Edsall had an interesting column about new research on the connection between genes and political beliefs — particularly those connected to social conservatism. But he dives a bit too deep into the gene pool (sorry) in his attempts to explain why humans tend to be so politically close-minded.

Specifically, referencing the work of researchers Amanda Friesen at Indiana University and Aleksander Ksiazkiewicz at Rice, he writes: “If these [political] predispositions are, as Friesen and Ksiazkiewicz argue, to some degree genetically rooted, they may not lend themselves to rational debate and compromise."

But we already know that political debates don’t lend themselves to rational debate and controversy — and we don’t need genetic explanations to understand why. There are all sorts of well-known psychological factors, from social influences to confirmation bias to motivated reasoning, that can help explain why we get locked into our political views and tend not to be open to changing them.

Sure, maybe, genes underlie these explanations and are therefore a factor.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


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1 posted on 07/11/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You know, like being born gay...


2 posted on 07/11/2014 5:53:00 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please Support Free Republic.)
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To: nickcarraway

Genes have nothing to do with it. Intelligence, or lack thereof, determines the way people vote. Now, the people they vote for are a whole different breed.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 5:53:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yep, just blame genes for every perversion.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 5:54:40 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: nickcarraway
Most likely it is a diseased brain or other major malfunction...

rightdiagnosis.com

Results: Inability to think coherently AND constant deterioration of mental acuity.

Possible Causes:


1. Anoxia
2. Aortic Aneurysm, Thoracic
3. Barbiturate abuse
4. Battaglia Neri syndrome
5. Brain abscess
6. Brain cancer
7. Encephalitis
8. Extradural hematoma
9. Fetal alcohol syndrome
10. HARD syndrome

5 posted on 07/11/2014 5:56:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway

>> those connected to social conservatism. But he dives a bit too deep...

Excerpt take away:

Stigmatizing social conservatives is okay, but everything else is off limits.


6 posted on 07/11/2014 5:56:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

My money’s on the parasitic organism toxoplasmosis gondi coupled with copious amounts of communist propaganda 24/7.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 5:57:15 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nickcarraway
Do Your Genes Make You a Democrat?

Sure...if you're genetically defective to begin with, although some people can overcome such handicaps and go on to lead productive lives.



































But not as Democrats, obviously.
8 posted on 07/11/2014 5:59:42 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: VerySadAmerican

it’s not genetics.

it’s a process.

generally people are liberal when young, b/c they are naive and idealistic and have less exposure to the real world and are not fully responsible for their actions and their needs.

they get stunted and stopped at this stage, and don’t take the last step to full independent adulthood.

it’s is a developmental disorder.


9 posted on 07/11/2014 6:00:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

Your genes probably do not make you a Democrat, but if your jeans are filthy, you don’t use deodorant, your hair looks like rats live in it, you are probably a Democrat.

I base my statement on observations I have made in and around Austin, Texas and then noticing that the individuals I just described tend to get into cars (most often Priapussies) with Obama or Wendy Davis (or both) bumper stickers on them.


10 posted on 07/11/2014 6:04:04 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: nickcarraway

If it’s genetic, then between abortions and the gay explosion they should make themselves extinct in a few generations.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 6:04:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: nickcarraway

My genes make me look fat...


12 posted on 07/11/2014 6:05:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: nickcarraway

I would say that a Y chromosome is a definite possibility.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 6:05:32 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If you have the “gay gene” they you most definitely will be a RAT.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 6:06:18 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Are you sure that 12 years of government schooling has nothing to do with being pro-statism aka liberal aka progressive aka socialist aka communist?


15 posted on 07/11/2014 6:14:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: nickcarraway
Of course liberals are interested tying everything they can to genetics. It removes responsibility from the individual.

I can hear them now, "They can't hep it. They's born that way."

They should be careful what they wish for. Suppose a 'gay' gene is found and a prenatal test for it is created.

Would the left suddenly turn pro-life? I doubt it.
Would the Gaystapo join the pro-life movement and fight it out with the NAGs? Possibly.

Either way my popcorn futures would skyrocket.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

16 posted on 07/11/2014 6:16:59 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s not the genes, It’s the sinful, fallen nature of man.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 6:17:57 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: 1010RD

sure does. but the real world has a way of breaking those stupid ideas. especially if people are honest with themselves.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 6:20:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I think a massive welfare state allows people to maintain the fantasy well beyond its normal extinction rate.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 6:23:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I think the way they’re raised has a lot to do with it. My ex had the most influence on my kids. They’re liberal. My cousins are all liberal and all of their kids are liberal.


20 posted on 07/11/2014 6:26:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: nickcarraway
"Do Your Genes Make You a Democrat?"

Here are a few journal articles dealing with genetics and politics:

" Social Dominance Orientation: A Personality Variable Predicting Social and Political Attitudes," Felicia Pratto, Jim Sidanius, Lisa M. Stallworth, and Bertram F. Malle (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1994, Vol. 67, No. 4, 741-763)

"Are Political Orientations Genetically Transmitted?," John Alford, Carolyn Funk, and John R. Hibbing (American Political Science Review Vol. 99, No. 2 May 2005, 153-167)

"Genetic Variation in Political Participation," James H. Fowler, Laura A. Baker, Christopher T. Dawes (American Political Science Review , Vol. 102, No. 2 May 2008, 233-248)

"Political Attitudes Vary with Physiological Traits," Douglas R. Oxley, Kevin B. Smith, John R. Alford, Matthew V. Hibbing, Jennifer L. Miller, Mario J. Scalora, Peter K. Hatemi, and John R. Hibbing (Faculty Publications: Political Science.Paper 26, 2008)

"Left or right? Sources of political orientation: the roles of genetic factors, cultural transmission, assortative mating, and personality," Christian Kandler, Wiebke Bleidorn, Rainer Riemann (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2012, 102(3):633-45)

"The genetics of politics: discovery, challenges, and progress," Peter K. Hatemi and Rose McDermott (Trends in Genetics, October 2012, Vol. 28, No. 10, 525)

21 posted on 07/11/2014 6:31:49 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: nickcarraway

NO. I have a family of cousins and one cousin and his wife are nutcase liberals. She was in the NEA for years, and all the others worked for private industry. The one lib thinks gov and unions is the answer. I’d hate to be at Thanksgiving or Christmas dinners in that family.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 6:55:05 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

The culture or environment, determine it.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 6:58:02 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
I base my statement on observations I have made in and around Austin, Texas and then noticing that the individuals I just described tend to get into cars (most often Priapussies) with Obama or Wendy Davis (or both) bumper stickers on them.

Yup, got a number of those around the Loop 1 and 35th street. I used to work at Camp Mabry and there were many times some got the single finger salute from me. I've seen one Wendy Davis sticker in Lago Vista. It was on a Prius.

24 posted on 07/11/2014 6:59:01 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: LonePalm

I love your attitude. We are in the last days, evil abounds, natural disasters have increased, good is bad, it is a wonderful time th Savior is coming. We are chosen to fight in the last battle for the souls of men. Most people are good deep down. There are three types of sheep, wolves and sheepdogs they fight to protect the sheep who would not hurt a soul. Be a sheepdog.
It is a beautiful time to be alive.


25 posted on 07/11/2014 7:04:17 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (We are doomed if good men stand by and do nothing.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I may have been a Dem in my youth, but when I was watching excerpts from the 1972 Democratic National Convention (I was 17 at the time), my first comment was “Good Lord, the Communists have taken over the Dems.” Not old enough to vote, yet I had considered myself a Scoop Jackson Democrat and was repulsed by McGovern.


26 posted on 07/11/2014 7:20:24 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: nickcarraway
“If these [political] predispositions are, as Friesen and Ksiazkiewicz argue, to some degree genetically rooted, they may not lend themselves to rational debate and compromise."

Unless there is a gene for being rational. And one side has it. And the other doesn't.

All Liberal's are either ignorant or evil. That's why there are so many of them. Conservatives must be [Rational AND Good] while Liberals need only be [Ignorant OR Evil.]

So it's like Good and Rational are recessive genes, and Ignorant and Evil are dominant genes. For example, most people with Good and Rational genes are 56.4 percent more likely to get audited, at least recently.

Anyway - it's a silly analysis. If you gave a two part test that simply combined part A: logic with part B: history, and connected the scores to genetics/voting, that's all you'd need.

When one man is arguing that a fish is a fish, and another argues that a fish is a penguin ... and neither will budge .... you can't call the fish/fish guy closed minded.

One is ignorant, or if he wants to get other people to believe it so he can fleece them, then he's Evil. The other guy just wants to be left alone ... with his fish ... that are ... fish.

So this is all very stupid. And that's not surprising, since it comes from the Times, where the readership is all either Ignorant or Evil or both. A corollary is that All people who are either Ignorant or Evil think they are Intelligent.

27 posted on 07/11/2014 8:45:21 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: nickcarraway

In simple terms, no.


28 posted on 07/12/2014 12:59:53 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: VerySadAmerican

Since I have a strong stubborn gene pool, where does that put me? Scot-Celt dominates it.

And being female does not factor in. I am a very fact orientated person, where voting is concerned and where my Country is concerned.

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My State rep debra moody is a 1 issue female R, I want her replaced with Rory Bricco http://rorybricco.com/, he is a very conservative Christian.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 6:37:43 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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