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Connecticut Mom Charged for Leaving Preteen in Car
Townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2014 | Christine Rousselle

Posted on 07/11/2014 7:05:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

In spite of the recent tragedies of toddlers being killed or seriously hurt from being locked in a car, I guess it really isn't all that surprising that police are being extra-vigilant to protect kids from hot cars. Some cases, however, like that of a woman in Connecticut being criminally charged for leaving her daughter in a car, are downright ridiculous.

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Officers were sent to 60 Middle Street on Tuesday where they said Christina Williams, 30, allegedly left her 11-year-old child inside a vehicle.

Police said the interior temperature of the car was about 85 degrees at the time they got to the scene.

When officers opened the car doors, they said the child was responsive and not in distress, and that the car was not "excessively hot."

Police said the child requested to stay inside of the car while her mother went inside a store, and Williams was located in the store and said the same thing.

The mother is due to appear in court at the end of the month.

While an 11-year-old certainly isn't entirely self-sufficient, they're certainly capable of taking care of themselves and letting themselves in and out of a car if they're about to overheat. Many 11-year-olds babysit, for instance. There's a huge difference between leaving an infant strapped in a car seat alone in a car for an extended period of time and leaving an 11-year-old in a not-overly hot car because she asked to stay there.

Williams isn't the only mother being accused of neglecting her children by leaving them safely in a car. Nickie Milem, a woman from South Carolina, is being charged with cruelty to children after she left her children in a running, air-conditioned vehicle with her sister-in-law while she ran into a grocery store.

Child endangerment is a serious crime--but not one that seems to be committed in these cases. This is the nanny state gone insane.


TOPICS: Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: nannystate

1 posted on 07/11/2014 7:05:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

11 seriously??


2 posted on 07/11/2014 7:06:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kaslin
When I paid the water bill last week, I left my grandkids (3,5,7) in the truck with a 14 year old.

I parked in the police department parking lot.

Reason has to intrude somewhere in this. Zero tolerance is for idiots.

/johnny

3 posted on 07/11/2014 7:08:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know. I don’t leave kids in a hot car because it’s too hot not because of what this stupid government tells me

And I don’t do it

Cars get hot


4 posted on 07/11/2014 7:08:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

Where is the crime here?


5 posted on 07/11/2014 7:08:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I agree, no crime here.


6 posted on 07/11/2014 7:11:12 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: GeronL
I've been having the 14 year old twins over because it's summer. They get to learn stuff, whether they like it or not. We watched a documentary on Charles Martel (Charles the Hammer).

He inherited his first fighting force when he was 15. (Really? He was just 15? Like, for real?) Then went on to run the Muslims out of Europe.

Gave the kids a different perspective.

Helicopter parents and public officials are the problem. Not the kids.

I set high expectations.

/johnny

7 posted on 07/11/2014 7:12:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

Child endangerment?


8 posted on 07/11/2014 7:12:43 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: doc1019
An 11 year old can take care of it's own basic needs. Eat when it gets hungry, get out of the car if it's too hot...

This is just stupid. The child wasn't endangered based on what was presented.

/johnny

9 posted on 07/11/2014 7:15:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

uncle johnny is cool huh


10 posted on 07/11/2014 7:16:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GeronL

My Dad taught me to drive when I was 11.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 7:18:44 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I wouldn't go that far. They grumble a lot. But they mind.

And they can let themselves out of a car if it gets hot.

/johnny

12 posted on 07/11/2014 7:21:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Johnny, you can be quite obtuse at times but this one is on the mark. Any kid older than 3 that can’t get his ass out of a car is destined to be a low-information voter.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 7:21:49 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Tell them some war stories, then they’ll call you cool


14 posted on 07/11/2014 7:22:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GeronL

But the 11-yr-old might not be able to unbuckle her car seat and get out if it gets too hot. What, no car seat?!?! Nanny cop will just add that on to the charges.

< /sarc> (I think)


15 posted on 07/11/2014 7:23:25 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Kaslin

what a bunch of crap...an 11 year old?


16 posted on 07/11/2014 7:28:29 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob; All

Well, lets just give all the illegals cars at the Mexican border, then we can arrest their parents for leaving them alone in the car!


17 posted on 07/11/2014 7:33:26 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kaslin
RE:”Police said the interior temperature of the car was about 85 degrees at the time they got to the scene.”

?????

If it was sunny outside that means it was probably 75 deg F outside. Maybe not the best judgement but hardly a crisis,

A 11 year would just get out if there was a problem, its not 11 months old its 11 years.

18 posted on 07/11/2014 7:34:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: bigbob

If a 26 year old is a “child”, then it would stand to reason that an 11 year old is really a 3 year old.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 7:35:18 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Kaslin

It’s very fortunate that the 11-year old did not have a pop-tart chewed into the shape of a pistol or she may well have not survived the new ZERO TOLERANCE STATISTS.


20 posted on 07/11/2014 8:19:08 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know, remember that story about the school girl (I don’t know how old she was, but older than 11 I think, maybe like 14 or so) who got inadvertently locked in the car by her brother at school. He had an early class, she had a later one, it was some old car, I still really don’t understand why she couldn’t get out, or why she didn’t have a cell phone, and I think she died.

I think it happened in CA, out west somewhere anyway. Last year, I think.

Scary stuff!

Not saying the cops were right to charge this woman, but maybe not a bad idea to check up.


21 posted on 07/11/2014 8:20:22 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My humble opinion, with the 14 yo, OK, without the 14 yo, no good.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 8:21:04 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you.ve gone Galton’s, how come you paid your water bill?


23 posted on 07/11/2014 8:38:02 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: Lisbon1940

Galton’s = Galt


24 posted on 07/11/2014 8:40:00 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: jocon307

I was locked in car when I was 11, and I died.


25 posted on 07/11/2014 9:17:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Wikipedia is wrong. who knew?)
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To: stanne
I don’t know. I don’t leave kids in a hot car because it’s too hot not because of what this stupid government tells me

And I don’t do it

Cars get hot

I don't know, that is I don't know how many of us managed to survive the forties, fifties, and sixties without police pulling all out of cars our parents left us in while the shopped and did errands, quite obviously the one thing that died for sure was common sense and what we are left with is a village full of idiots.

26 posted on 07/11/2014 9:30:58 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Oh no you didn’t!


27 posted on 07/11/2014 9:32:14 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Lisbon1940

“Galton’s = Galt”

LOL, I like it, it sounds like an ad for a fancy-schmancy supermarket, like Whole Foods. Maybe a fancy supermarket for conservatives?

Once you’ve gone Galton’s you’ll never go back!


28 posted on 07/11/2014 9:35:04 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: jocon307

With its specials so hot they smoke like a pistol!


29 posted on 07/11/2014 9:36:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

More and more I’m starting to think we’ll have to build our own society within (or without) the current US society.

We’ll definitely need supermarkets!


30 posted on 07/11/2014 9:38:23 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: jocon307

Pack-N-Pick?


31 posted on 07/11/2014 9:44:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jocon307

We shoot down high prices every day!


32 posted on 07/11/2014 9:44:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

The other day I left my dogs in my car, with the AC running, while I went into a restaurant. A gentleman graciously pointed out to me that my dogs could be harmed by leaving them in the car. I explained to him that my car was running with the AC on then thanked him for having the guts to say something.


33 posted on 07/11/2014 9:51:08 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

I had learned how to drive by then.

In 1949 when I was 12 I went 124 in a flathead rail at the drags.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 9:55:10 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Mastador1

Destruction of the family

Overtaxation

We had 6 kids in our family. Once my friends were discussing with me how their lives were different from mine because they had a lot of kids in their families

Our family was small

We rode bikes with no helmets,took the town bus into town on Saturdays and made it home for dinner

Our parents left us in the car with an older child in charge, wth the windows open but not for a long shopping trip into the supermarket

A couple of things:

One- kids got killed, drowned, poisoned and had head injuries, electrocuted, stitched, and that s not counting fractures, tears and lacerations

Two- kidnapping did not happen. That is worse for a parent than anything. It didn’t happen

And parents were responsible. If something happened they were ashamed and shamed in the community. People don’t want judgement and discernment, so this is what you have - the government in charge, and tgat means democrats- liberals - the non judgemental ones- not the community. And when the government is in charge, they favor their voters. They’re plenty judgemental just not toward the excuse-needers. And this is what you get.

All of us now are treated like stupid idiots who cannot manage our own lives.

And, lastly, there are not two parents at home. No one is home. Mom is working. Everyone has to shove the baby half asleep into the back of the car to go to day care with strangers all day so the parent emotionally detaches. No one in their righting can face doing that to their kid so they are detached. Disassociated. He gets left in the car forgotten while the parent is at work

Parents leave their kids in the car all the time and in the summer. In Texas


35 posted on 07/11/2014 10:00:48 PM PDT by stanne
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To: JRandomFreeper

How dare you leave them in the car. What are you a bigot.

Sorry, I forgot what I was supposed to be offended by this week and since I am on Free Republic I feel pretty safe to call someone a bigot as we all must be because we hate the wonderful President.


36 posted on 07/11/2014 10:32:20 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

pay my water bill online as to avoid these racist incidents.

Sorry, child endangerment.

Let’s face it. You are just a bad man.

And probably a racist, or republican. either or thy are the same.

Racist republican like Bull Connor.


37 posted on 07/11/2014 10:33:55 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

>> Zero tolerance is for idiots.

Agreed.


38 posted on 07/11/2014 10:39:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kaslin

An 11 year old can open the darn car door if needed. A different USA ago when I was about 8 or so kids staying in the car while parent was in store etc was real common. Of course we could roll down the windows and perverts weren’t as brazen and free to do as they please as they are today. Our nation has taken leave of it’s senses.


39 posted on 07/11/2014 10:41:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: jocon307

This is it, a ‘97 BMW:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/california-family-sues-bmw-after-teen-dies-heat-stroke-locked-car

Looks like it was a “security feature” probably to prevent someone from using a coat hanger to open the door from the inside.


40 posted on 07/11/2014 10:44:33 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: dalereed
I had learned how to drive by then.
In 1949 when I was 12 I went 124 in a flathead rail at the drags.

Whoa! A few years ago my sister in Las Vegas said she needed another car. What happened, I asked? Her 12-year-old son took her keys without permission and went joy-riding, and banged it up. 11 years, 12 years, almost the same thing. At least you were at the right place, must have been fun!

41 posted on 07/11/2014 10:49:17 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: dalereed

You prolly got passed up by the pony express. ;-)


42 posted on 07/11/2014 11:16:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oooh! I have an interest in Charles Martel. Do you remember the name of the documentary? Thanks!


43 posted on 07/11/2014 11:21:36 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: PLMerite

Oh yes, what an awful story. Thanks for finding it and posting it here. It’s actually quite hard to believe that something like that could happen.


44 posted on 07/11/2014 11:29:29 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Mastador1

I don’t know, that is I don’t know how many of us managed to survive the forties, fifties, and sixties without police pulling all out of cars our parents left us in while the shopped and did errands, quite obviously the one thing that died for sure was common sense and what we are left with is a village full of idiots.
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Exactly! Family didn’t have an auto with a/c until ‘58, when I was 16. Most people in the neighborhood didn’t have a/c cars until mid-50s and the best we had in houses was swamp coolers that caused mold to grow inside. ...I recall a neighbor who had one of those devices that attached to his driver-side door/window that he filled with water and when driving a small fan would turn, blowing water cooled air inside the car.


45 posted on 07/12/2014 1:45:48 AM PDT by octex
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To: Kaslin

I was hunting alone all over this county when I was 11.


46 posted on 07/12/2014 3:25:32 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kaslin

Over zealous and in need of payroll money....


47 posted on 07/12/2014 3:34:17 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Kaslin

As a general rule, we don’t turn our AC on until it hits 90 outside, and I leave my kids at home often.

Am I going to Jail?


48 posted on 07/12/2014 6:01:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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