Skip to comments.Unprepared for Impeachment
Posted on 07/12/2014 1:17:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No matter how many ways I say this, Im going to get the usual RINO! reaction. Ill give you the caveat as plainly as I can: this is not an article for or against the impeachment of Barack Obama.
Now, no matter how forcefully I say it, there is still a faction on the right who will take my failure to immediately call for Obamas impeachment as their chance to damn me as a RINO, a traitor, a fifth-columnist, a secret Obama supporter, a squish, and a sellout to the Evil Establishment. So before you lose your grip, reread the first paragraph carefully. This is not an argument for or against the impeachment of Barack Obama.
While one can certainly make the argument Obama has committed impeachable offenses, his political opponents are not capable of pulling off impeachment in the current political climate, even if they want to. It may be right to. You may think that this is the final way to teach this haughty, terrible, lawless President the lesson he sorely deserves, but youre wrong.
You cant pull it off. Both the Congressional Republican establishment and the Tea Party caucus lack the skills, discipline, and planning to impeach Barack Obama. Its not because Boehner and leadership are squishes. Its not because the Tea Party caucus is too undisciplined to plan a barbecue. The reason is more serious.
No one has a plan. There is no strategy. Theres no roadmap for the months-long process that would become the center of American political life to the exclusion of every other issue. Bluster and self-indulgence isnt a strategy (Dont blink!), but it does play into some separate venality and political ambition. Theres a ravenous hunger for clicks and donations on email lists [DONATE HERE OR THE REPUBLIC WILL FALL]. Theres a desire my some future Presidential candidates to out hard-ass other Republicans prior to 2016. But is there a plan? Of course not.
Give me your elevator pitch, not for impeachment qua impeachment, but for how the story plays out from the announcement to Obama mounting the steps of Marine One and flashing a Nixonian farewell salute. Whats your Day One communication strategy when we begin impeachment proceedings? Whats the Day Two strategy? Whats the strategy after the first week? Who are the legislative handlers? Who are the key faces for the media? Whats the timetable, the media plan, the surrogate plan all the boring block-and-tackle stuff? What happens when your rock-solid arguments melt under legal challenges from every quarter?
Did you remember there are other players in this game? Did you forget that the American people are notoriously fickle? Did you forget that the media still yields a mighty power to misrepresent, to distort, and to flat-out lie about what youre trying to accomplish? What happens when this raises $50 million in online donation for the bad guys? What happens when they start dropping oppo like nukes on every member of the impeachment committee? What happens when Americans who are bored and restless decide youre not talking about their lives, but just playing inside Washington games? What happens to the message strategy of every GOP House, Senate, and Governor candidate in the country? What happens when this doesnt turn bring the White House to heel but instead becomes the only rallying cry that could wake Democrats from their post-Obama, post-Obamacare funk? What happens when Harry Reid slits your throat by not allowing the Senate to pass judgment.
This isnt something you pull out of your back pocket. This has to be planned, war-gamed, and worked through. The DC boys will act with too much caution, and the Tea Party guys will act with none at all. But as with the shutdown, without a plan, its got DISASTER stamped on it in red letters.
Just as in the travesty in Mississippi, conservatives will wonder why everything they read on Breitbart or World Net Daily or GotNews didnt magically change everything. Theyll wonder why magical thinking got its ass kicked by a bare-knuckle, operational campaign. Theyll wonder why the other side laughs at their Marquis of Queensbury rules and skates up to and over the edge of the law. Theyll wonder why their lack of discipline and failure to plan left them with nothing. Theyll wonder why the issues they see as so obvious, so compelling, and so damning didnt translate to ordinary Americans. Theyll wonder how Obama could possibly escape with his popularity higher than when he started.
Just because Noted Political Strategist Sarah Palin says it, it doesnt mean its going to happen. Just because the American Patriot Tea Party Patriotic Front for Tea Party Patriotisms emails promise well impeach him if youll just click the donation button one more time doesnt mean impeachment is practical or possible. If you proceed with impeachment without a comprehensive, aggressive, well-thought-out communications and political action plan, you will fail.
You will fail to impeach Barack Obama. You will fail to recapture the Senate. You will fail to turn his last two years in office into the living political hell he richly deserves. And when you fail, the Democrats and Barack Obama get to run their plan instead. They will run back into the welcoming and cozy embrace of their media allies. They will justify every new executive excess and overreach by blaming the GOP for impeachment. Obama will ignore and defy Congress like never before.
If it makes you feel even a little better, this is a Presidency that already reeks of failure. It is a Presidency that will go down in history as a rolling disaster led by a charismatic con man so vastly oversold to the public that it defies description. His failures are a shame and a stain on the Democratic Party that will ripple out for decades. Hell go down as a historical oddity, a sideshow freak with a cult of devotees divorced from reality. Hes politically dead already, but hes too prideful to lay down and start stinking.
As I said the beginning Im not making a judgment over whether we should impeach Barack Obama or not. Thats a legal question above my pay grade. But if Republicans and conservatives continue to make this a part of their message without a more complete plan than weve shown were capable of producing this far, expect the worst. Well be wasting bandwidth and political capital talking about a half-assed, hypothetical impeachment plan that will hurt us more than it will hurt him.
A plan beats no plan, every time.
ready for a coup
the entire system , both Parties , is utterly corrupt and broken . The Constitution has been subverted in virtually every way possible . By lawyers....Time to give the helm to the warriors for awhile .
RINO!. . .I don't know how many ways you can say it. . .but the way you chose. . .arrogance, condescension and just being an all-around self-absorbed asshat. . .will get you the RINO tag, deservedly so, EVERYTIME!!
The first enemies of the Republic that need to be neutered are the lapdog media. Never before in American history have so many been lied to so much by so few.
So what was the carefully wargamed, meticulously detailed roadmap everyone followed when Clinton was impeached?
Everything in that article could be boiled down to “it’s complicated, so we shouldn’t even try”. I note that he doesn’t even begin to say what the solution is, if impeachment isn’t possible. Anyone can sit around naysaying and criticizing, and ol’ Ricky there doesn’t even want to hear from you if you don’t have everything already charted and scripted.
What a putz.
Since I can’t edit to add, I have to reply again with:
Hey, Ricky! All that boring planning, “block-and-tackle” stuff to get ready for impeachment? THAT’S YOUR F#^&ING JOB!
If he were to resign, like Nixon, under the threat of impeachment, would Joe Biden or Valerie Jarrett take his place?
The Founders never thought we would have a democracy, where even the most ignorant citizens could vote to choose the leadership of the nation. If you watch “Water’s World” on O’Reilly, you see what passes for a college student these days,
and they voted in huge numbers for this flop of a president.
Had they foreseen the stupidity of their successors in instituting a democracy, they might have adopted the “vote of no confidence” route to getting rid of a loser president, as parliamentary governments can do.
Just look at what the Democrats accomplished in 1973-74. It took 20 months of intense, synchronized activity, highly organized and following a well-thought out master plan to remove a President who had just won. 520 electoral votes and 61% of the popular vote.
There is no corresponding Republican structure capable of anything like that.
The outcome...successful impeachment...President Biden?
That’s because we haven’t had the press in our pockets since the 1890s. It has been “progressive” at least that long. At first they hid it pretty well but now the masks have come off almost completely.
we need to continue developing the case for impeachment regardless. Perhaps the battlefield will change in our favor and present an opportunity. Impeachment remains the goal even if if the goal is not presently realistic. Stay on target.
I agree with the idea of continuing to make the case for impeachment, whether or not it actually materializes, but I would state out goal differently.
In my opinion, our goal needs to be restoration of our republic, a constitutionally limited federal government. Impeachment of Obama then is but one theater of conflict in a much wider political struggle. I suggest we keep focused on restoring those constitutional limits.
reinstate sedition laws
I assume that was tongue-in-cheek, but to answer your question, Slow Joe is legally the next-in-line. However, I wouldn’t be at *all* surprised if, once Joe took office, Jarrett continued in the same role she currently has.
IMHO: The Whole Lot Of Them. Tar. Feathers. Rail. Some assembly required.
People like this author are the prime examples of why we are in this predicament. Their premises are incorrect. We don’t lose because we don’t plan. We lose because the game is rigged and not by our sworn enemies, but by our supposed allies.
Some people have zero faith so they need every move plotted out with every possible counter strategy by the enemy met by an overwhelming force counter move before they will do anything. I’ve known people who lived their lives like that — paralyzed. They do nothing, they accomplish very little, they live perpetually cowed.
We don’t control the media, we never will. We don’t control the fickle people in this world, we never will. As for shaking in our boots over the dirt the dems have on us, if we can’t stand the heat, we need to get out of the kitchen. Blackmail is an evil thing. We don’t control the evil in this world. But there is something we do control — our own actions.
1. Do what is right.
2. Put our faith in God and trust in Him.
Because we have failed to do those two things we are in this situation now. Because we imagine we can control anything outside of ourselves, we are proven wrong time and again. The only thing we can control is our own action or inaction. If we fail to do what is right — impeach, if we fail to put our faith in God and not man, we will utterly fail and no amount of planning and long drawn out thought will change that fact. No amount of waiting for a human savior to magically appear or media turn around will help.
The author does not see the real problem at all. This pass fail test is not being given to Obama. He’s been positioned where he is for a reason. The hand is writing on the wall. That hand is writing for us. Will we be found lacking in — courage, faith, and will to do what is right? These cowardly so called conservatives keep reminding me that: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
Paralysis is not an option. We must do what is right or our failure is already complete.
It is as simple as this.
Impeachment is a political process. To be successful, the public has to be demanding it.
Until then it is a fools errand. You don’t make an attempt on the King unless you know you will succeed. To fail only further unleashes him to do more things he couldn’t do in the open before. And he would.
My 2 cents...
You need to convince the general public, not congress. When the public is clamoring for it, congress will follow. That is the simple truth of it.
absolutely. In order to do that, however, we need to keep our offensive momentum going into the mid terms and we do that by staying on target by massing the effects of overwhelming offensive power at the decisive place and time-the midterm elections. He and they are unbalanced right now and on the defense. They need to stay that way.
Our founding philosophers made a great system of checks and balances. Yes, Obama should be impeached. No, he can’t be.
Our founders didn’t seem to think that eventually a whole party would be complicit in the destruction of what they so thoughtfully designed.
I don’t like the article, but I do agree. Obama should be impeached but it won’t be successful and it will detract from the GOP message this election.
The GOP did have a plan and did try and implement it. The plan was to marginalize the Tea Party ... and now they have nothing. They failed at marginalizing the Tea Party mainly because the Tea Party represents our founders thoughts and designs. The Tea Party *IS* the GOP and all those Rino’s are just the conservative wing of the Progressive party.
We will not take the Senate. We can’t. We have too many lose cannons in the party, and yes, we do have wimps in leadership positions.
No it is a constitutional duty politics should play no part. Clinton was impeached because he broke the law violated his oath. It should be the same with 0 if he violated his oath he should be impeached. House must do their duty regardless of the political consequences.
And yet the public is clamoring for the border to be under control but nothing happens.
We live in a republic. That means this so called august, bicameral body known as Congress has a duty to do what is right and not just because a mob tells them to do it. It is their job to check and balance the executive branch when it gets out of line. The first act in checking an out of balance tyrant is impeachment by the House. That they don’t do this is a testimony to the fact that they are lazy cowards at best and/or may be part and parcel of the very corruption they refuse to indict.
As for me, I will do what is right and put my faith in the Lord.
Say what you will, Richard Nixon at least saw what he was doing to the country and resigned for the good of it. The difference between him and Obama is night and day; Obama is intentionally destroying this country, and resignation is the farthest thing from his mind.
The “dilemma” is very simple: Do we get the rat out of the pantry or do we simply let it eat all of the food (freedoms) in the pantry and simply go elsewhere to do more damage?
There is only one good answer.
A strong case can be made that B0 has committed impeachable offenses, yet impeachment is something to be avoided and unattainable. Such is the current state of affairs.
The best advice!
and vice president Hillary Clinton.
For a long time the media's reaction was to view everything with suspicion. It was considered part of journalism to investigate the veracity of what was being said by both parties.
It seems that since Viet Nam that it has become the job of the media to make the liberal case and advocate for the democrat party.
I can't give you a reason this happened, or how it happened, it just has.
How about miserable, treasonous bastard obstructionist?
Add in control of schools and you are on the fast-track to control the opinions and even core beliefs of entire populations (with the exception of a few thinkers and renegades).
add my 2cents to yours;You dont make an attempt on the King unless you know you will succeed. To fail only further unleashes him to do more things he couldnt do in the open before
Right now the GOP, needs to focus on retaining the House and winning back the Senate, hopefully with a super-majority, which will make the question of impeachment much easier to answer and accomplish.
This is mid-July. Midterm elections are in November. As slow as Washington is at getting anything done, that is a very short time to get our act together to accomplish the goals of simply regaining the majority. Leave the talk of impeachment alone until after we gain more power. By then there will be two years left in Obama’s term. Enough time to impeach and convict but still a long shot with the can’t-move-faster-than-a-snail process in Washington.
This impeachment fervor is a near-sighted solution for right now. It’s like planning a divorce before getting married. Don’t get me wrong. Obama needs to be removed from office, if for nothing else, incompetence, not to mention the crimes and misdemeanors he has carried out. But focus on getting back the majority first and then re-think whether impeachment is advisable or at all possible with just two years left of Obama’s rein of terror on the America. If impeachment were to be achieved, all we would get would be that stumble-bumble, Joe Biden. Better than Obama in my book, but still no prize as a replacement.
It may be best to just throttle him for those last two years by withholding funding, holding more hearings and attempting to get to the bottom of some his odorous messes. It’s been my experience after 67 years of fighting the many battles in life, that it isn’t always the wise course to go for the jugular because you feel like doing it. Sometimes tempered action is the better course.
Hey 28; Did Christ jump from the top of the temple?
You can’t just take out 0, biden is even worse as he is a stupid jackass. You have to get both of them, then who do you get RINO CRY BABY.
Part of the reason the Senate did not impeach slick willie was they knew the kook prince Albert was, and chose the lesser of 2 evils.
This gives you the succession order.
Makes sense the first act of every tyrant/ despot was to take over the media to control the message.
This writer has a good point and makes sense. Even if the dems loose the Senate, getting a conviction AND removal are a very long shot, that as the writer says could endear the indies and slightly liberals out of sympathy.
Look at klintoon, did impeachment hurt the jerk? None that I ever saw and may even made him a bigger public figure than before.
If there isn’t a real good chance of stripping nobama back to common dope smoking street hustler, we’ll be better off with him creating and suffering his own powerless failure status for 2 more years. Now that we are beginning to see the dems and (remarkably the MSM quitting to bow at the ankles, he will begin to lash out at them with more venom than we have gotten.
The house can impeach the president. However, the senate will try him and to convict him two thirds of the senate must vote to remove him from office. With or without a plan, how can we get two thirds of the senate to vote Obama out of office? Most of the Democrat senators are lost in the liberal bubble. They are beyond reason. As was mentioned in an earlier post, we need to work to retain the house and get the senate. Then we need to find a viable candidate for 2016. Sadly, too many people are already pushing “moderate” republicans which means another loss.
George Washington warned Americans about the evils of party.
When we let election strategies trump doing the right thing, we set party above principle and deal a mortal blow to the republic.
Rick Wilson makes some very good points, all of which should be acted on by the Republican leadership. We need a good plan of action to impeach Obama.
Is Boehner preparing a plan for impeachment? Will he ever? I doubt it. He’s another Trent Lott. Boehner is the problem and any plan should include GOP leadership that will be effective in dealing with the Dims, the media and working the process.
There’s nothing to gain by starting impeachment procedures before November. We should use the time to prepare the impeachment plan, which should be implemented win or lose this November.
Palin is going a good job prepping the battlefield. Go Sarah!
Well, then. What we need is a “...comprehensive, aggressive, well-thought-out communications and political action plan...”
> this is not an article for or against the impeachment of Barack Obama.
Why was the name of the Senate leader deleted (twice) in my post?
The devoted support of the MSM emboldened the Democrats to challenge Nixon (and GWB) on every front; the lack of media support paralyzes the Republicans. Until Americans tune out the MSM, this will be the case.
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Forget impeachment. When we hit critical mass which is coming soon just skip on to forcible removal and incarceration.
No thanks, we already had one in 08.