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A Florida Judge Just Voided the State’s Congressional Districts. Here’s What You Need to Know
Washington Post ^ | July 11 | Christopher Ingraham

Posted on 07/12/2014 2:06:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Last night a circuit court judge in Florida voided the state's congressional map, citing a "secret, organized campaign" by Republican operatives that "made a mockery of the Legislature's transparent and open process of redistricting." The ruling concluded that District 5, held by Democrat Corrine Brown, and District 10, held by Republican Dan Webster, will need to be redrawn. From a purely practical standpoint, this means redrawing any surrounding districts as well, and possibly many of the state's 27 districts overall. "If one or more districts do not meet constitutional muster, then the entire act is unconstitutional," Judge Terry Lewis wrote.

The ruling is something of a barn-burner, and well worth a read. Lewis opens it up with a quote from George Washington warning of "cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men" who will "subvert the power of the people" and "usurp for themselves the reins of government." Below, three big takeaways.

1. Half-measures won't solve the gerrymandering problem

In 2010, Florida voters attempted to fix the issue of partisan gerrymandering by passing two amendments to the Florida Constitution that became known as the Fair District amendments. The amendments limit -- but do not eliminate -- the state legislature's discretion in drawing district boundaries, by forbidding districts drawn "with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; elections; florida; gerrymandering; judges; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills
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1 posted on 07/12/2014 2:06:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

More DemoCrip schemes?


2 posted on 07/12/2014 2:10:29 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon; nickcarraway

More than likely.


3 posted on 07/12/2014 2:11:12 AM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Joe Brower

a hot one for you to ping out


4 posted on 07/12/2014 2:13:13 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: nickcarraway

Corrine Brown is the real mockery here.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 2:14:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Viennacon

Do we get Allen Wes back?


6 posted on 07/12/2014 2:16:00 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: nickcarraway

Should we feel outraged since the Fl GOP either helped or did nothing as Col Allen West was redistricted into a Dem district and lost as a result??!!


7 posted on 07/12/2014 2:17:19 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: personalaccts

Oh hey same thought!


8 posted on 07/12/2014 2:18:21 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: NonValueAdded

Feminazi welfare queen


9 posted on 07/12/2014 2:26:34 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon

Not at all. The whole redistricting process and boundaries were subverted by the Democrats and the Republicrats, or GOPe.

Two top tea party members, Allen West and Sandy Adams, that I know of were redistricted out of their seats because the GOPe wanted them gone. They also kept much of Brown’s district alone as well.

I was subscribed to the State’s redistricting site and everything seemed to be going well on true districts and then at the final draft everything went upside down and they rushed it through. I remember at the time that it looked like the Democrats took over the whole deal even though they were heavily in the minority.

This could very well have been the first salvo fired in the tea party vs. GOPe fight we are seeing exploding now. The GOPe of Charlie Crist and Jeb Bush mind you.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 2:27:07 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

What are the odds this results in a net gain for the right?


11 posted on 07/12/2014 2:31:43 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: mazda77

I want Feminazi Corrinne Brown-turd gone


12 posted on 07/12/2014 2:32:02 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: mazda77

I’d like to see some judge finally order all lines to be made along actual countylines, and just dump this three-year-old kid line-drawing stuff. A district ought to consist of five lines maximum. This sixty-four line drawing stuff is totally bogus.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 2:32:59 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: nickcarraway


14 posted on 07/12/2014 2:35:29 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Viennacon; All

Reading the entire article, the writer’s assumptions are all upside down as well, especially on the analysis. It seems to me this writer wants Brown gone which shows she is even an embarrassment to him as well.

It is a very interesting read but the liberal bias of this reporter has him shooting off his feet in the process. He makes some typical assumptions that it was those Wascally Wepublicans who dreamed up this redistricting only because they are Republicans and still has to get a grasp on what the GOPe really is. But his biases will never let that shred of light enter into his pea-brain.

The bottom line is that we do need to have a do-over now that the GOPe persecution of conservatives and tea party inspired voters is in full view. Seems the Haley Barbour arrogance will cut off the rest of his nose to spite his face.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 2:40:05 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: RginTN

Allen West’s district was essentially taken away from him by essentially making him compete with another incumbent for the area he held for two years. Same thing happened to Sandy Adams, who would have been a star just as Trey Gowdy is now. She was fearless and very direct in committee hearings. She ended up being pitted against John Mica who is a long time incumbent as well.

For Florida, this has huge implications and i see no way they can have a redo before the mid-terms unless they fall back on one of the drafts that was far more logical. One thing for sure, it is going to royally screw up the GOPe, especially since so many other conservatives were voted into both houses of the Legislature in 2012. Maybe this whole GOPe debacle goes right along with trying to keep as many liberals around seeing the tidal wave coming from the Tea Party minded electorate at the time in 2011.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 2:56:12 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: nickcarraway

Such a district is a mockery. They always have been, always will be. It is shameful when the dems do it, shameful when the gop does it.

If I was the judge, I would tell these pieces of puke that if i don’t like the next map they bring, i will waffle-stamp the state, and they can only adjust lines on the grid to get the proper population. So each district will be a rectangle except for coastlines.

They would still try to weasel that as well. I hate politicians!


17 posted on 07/12/2014 3:01:33 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Viennacon
More DemoCrip schemes?

Yup. But they're getting so obvious and stupid that even DemoCrips are feeling embarrassed.

18 posted on 07/12/2014 3:09:03 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: GilesB

That’s (FL-5) a Voting Rights Act district in order to assure a Black Democrat wins the seat. It’s required by federal law.


19 posted on 07/12/2014 3:12:36 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: nickcarraway

“I’m shocked, shocked to find out gambling is going on at Rick’s”

You mean to tell me the party in charge organizes congressional districts to seek political advantage?


20 posted on 07/12/2014 3:13:49 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: nickcarraway

Why is it that Dems seem to always be able to get Voting ID statutes retrained so they don’t apply in an upcoming election but we couldn’t get THIS decision restrained so it doesn’t apply in the upcoming election?


21 posted on 07/12/2014 3:38:57 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: nickcarraway

Districts should be drawn based on geographical proximity and population clusters. A computer can do it in a few minutes.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 3:44:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Viennacon
I want Feminazi Corrinne Brown-turd gone

GLO

23 posted on 07/12/2014 3:51:54 AM PDT by sternup
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There is no federal law that requires a black democrat is assured a seat.


24 posted on 07/12/2014 4:09:23 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: nickcarraway

Remember...the GOP In Florida redistricted Allen West into a more Democrat district...and cost him re-election.

Also....District 10...Orlando area rep Dan Webster....is mostly Hispanic and liberal. FL GOP redistricting made it easy for Alan Grayson to win back a House seat in another Orlando area district (formerly conservative one)

This court ruling may actually help conservatives in long run...as the GOPe in FL tried so hard to eliminate conservative districts


25 posted on 07/12/2014 4:18:35 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour rather work for drug cartels than Americans)
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To: mazda77; All

Corrine Brown is so crooked...she gets Nigerians to SEND HER money...no kidding


26 posted on 07/12/2014 4:21:36 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour rather work for drug cartels than Americans)
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To: nickcarraway

Lets see if we can get away with this


27 posted on 07/12/2014 4:22:54 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: nickcarraway
"If one or more districts do not meet constitutional muster, then the entire act is unconstitutional," Judge Terry Lewis wrote.

Now, if only we could get some judges who think that way to make a ruling on ObamaCare...

28 posted on 07/12/2014 4:34:06 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m surprised that the writer doesn’t drag out the fact that Judge Lewis was involved in the Bush-Gore recount.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 4:44:36 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: DisorderOnBorder

Well, Rep. West wouldn’t toe the GOP party line! Don’t know about Adams and Webster.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 5:09:18 AM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: martin_fierro; mazda77; pepsionice; nickcarraway

Good points all. Districts should be legally defined to be encapsulated by straight lines, not squiggles. That would put a stop to a lot of this crap. Maybe. Politicians are really only clever when it comes to their survival, unfortunately.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 5:18:34 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: nickcarraway
"The word gerrymander (originally written Gerry-mander) was used for the first time in the Boston Gazette on 26 March 1812..."-wiki

NOW we find out its unconstitutional! You would think that someone would have figured this out 200 years ago.

Does this apply to the US as a whole, or are we just fixing republican Florida? Thought so...

32 posted on 07/12/2014 5:37:58 AM PDT by D Rider (Don't give sharp objects to small children)
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To: D Rider

Get rid of districts and go with counties. Takes gerrymandering out of the picture. Also from an electoral voting process it creates firewalls which prevent wide spread voter fraud.

As an example, let’s say Cuyahoga county get 125% of the people voting. Now that extra 25% can make a difference in a general election. If you go with a county system, with each county getting 1 point for being won and the most points in the state getting the electoral votes, two things happen.

1- who cares if Cuyahoga county gets 500% of the electorate? The firewall is put up which will give the winning candidate 1 point towards getting the states electoral votes.

2- All of this voter ID and picture ID is taken off the table because if you want to cheat, you only get 1 point.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 6:20:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: nickcarraway; JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; ...
Florida judge Terry Lewis was appointed to the Leon County district court in 1998 by Democratic Gov. Lawton Chiles.

It is apparent that he is aiding and abetting a misdirection campaign, a Democrat specialty, to accuse the opposition of what he knows full well his fellow travelers are themselves guilty of ten times over.

Same sh!t, different decade.

Florida Freeper

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If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

34 posted on 07/12/2014 6:45:09 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: nickcarraway

We live in that little thin squiggle that looks like an appendix between duval county and orange park. I so much want out of Corrine Browns District so anything that moves that boundry away from me suits me just fine.
Freegards
LEX


35 posted on 07/12/2014 6:57:32 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: nickcarraway

On the plus side, maybe we’ll be removed from her district!


36 posted on 07/12/2014 7:21:29 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: nickcarraway

Ha.

Laws made by judges and via executive orders.

Who needs a legislature elected by the people at large, representing their interests?

Oh, wait, Article I Section I.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 7:24:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GilesB
An alternative, non-fudgeable way is to limit the size of the ratio
R = L*L/A,
where L is the length of the district's perimeter in miles and A is the district's area in square miles. For a square R is 16 and about 12.5 for a circle.

That monstrosity must have an R of well over 300.

38 posted on 07/12/2014 7:32:23 AM PDT by expat2
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

The judge should be removed from office, along with the rest of the Demagogic party members.


39 posted on 07/12/2014 7:50:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Joe Brower

If the districts are out, what does this mean for the August primary? Cluster Flop in the batting circle.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 7:50:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Joe Brower

Yep! One of Lawton’s boys! FSU grad to boot! And, now this decision? Three strikes!


41 posted on 07/12/2014 8:14:18 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: expat2

Your proposal makes sense - except it still gives too much leeway to these pukes. They have proven, with this one district, that they are not to be trusted, and need to be SEVERELY restricted in what they can do.

Maybe give them a ratio of 16 - and let them sweat trying to make it work.

With your idea, there would have to be a coastline/natural boundary adjustment.


42 posted on 07/12/2014 8:45:12 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: personalaccts

BUMP!


43 posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:43 AM PDT by shove_it (My real nickname is Otter)
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To: RginTN

BUMP!


44 posted on 07/12/2014 8:51:08 AM PDT by shove_it (My real nickname is Otter)
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To: RginTN

BUMP!


45 posted on 07/12/2014 8:51:49 AM PDT by shove_it (My real nickname is Otter)
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To: Joe Brower
I thought this Judge looked familiar. He was involved on the 2000 boondoggle.

Also, Lewis overturned a 1999 law requiring that parents of minors be notified 48 hours before their daughters have an abortion."

46 posted on 07/12/2014 8:57:04 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: GilesB

Voting Rights Act. Check it out.


47 posted on 07/12/2014 5:26:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“In Miller v. Johnson (1995), the Court explained that a redistricting plan is constitutionally suspect if the jurisdiction used race as the “predominant factor” in determining how to draw district lines. For race to “predominate”, the jurisdiction must prioritize racial considerations over traditional redistricting principles, which include “compactness, contiguity, [and] respect for political subdivisions or communities defined by actual shared interests.”

This says the opposite of what you claim.

The original act stated that a state could not redistrict in such a way as to dilute a community’s vote. Nowhere does it say that there must be a safe minority district.


48 posted on 07/12/2014 9:03:24 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

Exactly what do you think these districts are for ? They’re explicitly drawn for the purposes of electing a Black (or Hispanic, in some cases) member. Any attempt to substantially dilute or break up said districts is forbidden (as per the VRA, Justice Department, et al). Several states, including Florida, must have the maps submitted to Justice in order to assure they meet said requirements.

I’m not entirely clear on what you’re specifically arguing here. In the case of Corrine Brown’s seat, the FL legislature can’t simply “undraw” it. I thoroughly disagree with the so-called “fair districts” initiative, since it interferes with the right of the FL legislature to be able to exercise its duty to draw a partisan map that benefits the majority (as it is already partially hamstrung by the VRA/Justice requirements to draw the aforementioned Black (Dem) districts).

The Feds shouldn’t even have a say in approving/disapproving lines, unless there’s a gross violation of the number of individuals residing from one district to another (i.e. 500,000 in District A, 800,000 in District B, 400,000 in District C, etc). I personally oppose the VRA, since it explicitly favors the voting rights of one racial group at the expense of another. I live in a legislative district under the VRA, and as a non-Black Conservative, I have no representation whatsoever, and my vote is worthless.


49 posted on 07/12/2014 9:39:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I stated that there is no federal law requiring a safe district for - i.e. guaranteeing a win by - a minority.

There is no such law. This district in Florida violates the act, and specifically violates the ruling I mentioned.

Yes,not only can Florida undraw it -they must, according to the law.

That district was not drawn to assure the election of a black person, it was drawn to include as many blacks as possible in one district, thereby diluting their influence in other districts...which is expressly against the law.

This is shoddy, underhanded, despicable politics at its worst. This was drawn up by a rotten sack of scum buckets.

Your opinion of the duty of the legislature is skewed, and clearly displays what’s wrong in all this.
It is NOT their duty to draw districts to benefit the majority. It is their duty to draw reasonable, cohesive, and logical districts - they have misused that responsibility to benefit the majority.


50 posted on 07/12/2014 10:08:36 PM PDT by GilesB
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