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ROOSEVELT AGREES TO RUN FOR A FOURTH TERM, HE IS SILENT ON WALLACE FOR VICE PRESIDENCY (7/12/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 7/12/44 | Charles Hurd, Arthur Krock, E.C. Daniel, Harold Denny, Frederick Graham, David Anderson, more

Posted on 07/12/2014 5:11:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commievp; fdr; history; milhist; nakedcommunist; realtime; roosevelt; worldwarii
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1 posted on 07/12/2014 5:11:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Normandy, 1944: Expanding the Beachhead, Operations, 1-24 July 1944
The Western Pacific, New Guinea and the Philippine Islands: Allied Advances to the Marianas, Biak and Noemfoor, 22 April-24 July 1944, and Japanese Kon and “A” Go Operations 30 May-19 June 1944
Eastern Europe, 1941: Operation Bagration – Operations, 22 June-19 August, 1944
Northern Italy 1944: Allied Advance to Gothic Line, 5 June-25 August and Gains 29 August-31 December
China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, April-December 1944 and Situation 31 December
China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
2 posted on 07/12/2014 5:11:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 07/12/2014 5:12:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Prime Minister to Secretary of State for War 12 July 44

I am anxious to reply promptly to Dr. Weizmann’s request for the formation of a Jewish fighting force put forward in his letter of July 4, of which you have been given a copy. I understand that you wish to have the views of Generals Wilson and Paget before submitting to the Cabinet a scheme for the formation of a Jewish brigade force. As this matter has now been under consideration for some time I should be glad if you would arrange for a report setting out yur proposals to be submitted to the Cabinet early next week.

Winston S. Churchill, Triumph and Tragedy

4 posted on 07/12/2014 5:13:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
President’s Stand (Hurd) – 2-3
The President’s Letter – 2-3
Capital Was Sure – 3
President Seen as Agreeable to Change in Running Mate (Krock) – 4
War News Summarized – 4
Allied Line Erupts (Daniel) – 5-6
Photo from Normandy – 6
U.S. Planes and Guns Hammer Foe into Grogginess on Hill near St. Lo (Denny) – 6-7
Canadian Troops Move through Rubble of Caen (page 1 photo) – 7
U.S. Submarine Lost with a Crew of 60 – 7
P-47 Pilots Smash Nazi Tank Assault (Denny, Graham) – 8
The General Chats with the Princess (photo) – 8
Munich, Toulon Hit in 2-Way Bombings (Anderson) – 9-10
London: Death at Night and Seeking Refuge by Day (photos) – 9
Lopez is Rescued by Colombia Units – 10-11
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones * – 12-14
4 Weeks of Robots (by Hanson W. Baldwin) – 14

* There is some missing and/or scrambled text in the United Nations communiques. I’m pretty sure it happened in the originals and is not my fault – HJS.

5 posted on 07/12/2014 5:15:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1944/jul44/12jul44.htm#

Allied air strikes along the Po
Wednesday, July 12, 1944 www.onwar.com

In Italy... Allied air attacks against the Po bridges begin. Elements of the US 5th Army advance. The US 88th Division takes Lajatico.

On the Eastern Front... Soviet 2nd Baltic Front forces capture Idritsa.

On the Western Front... The US 1st Army offensive toward St. Lo reaches within 2 miles of the town but faces heavy resistance from German forces. Hill 192, east of the town, is captured.

In the United States... The Bretton Woods conference continues.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 5:16:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/12.htm

July 12th, 1944 (WEDNESDAY)
UNITED KINGDOM: The USAAF’s Eighth Air Force flies three missions.

- Mission 468: 131 B-24s, escorted by by 144 Royal Air Force (RAF) Spitfires, are dispatched to bomb 10 CROSSBOW (V-weapon) sites in the Rouen, France area but abort because of a thick blanket of low cloud over the target area; no losses.

- Mission 469: 1,271 bombers and 803 fighters are dispatched to bomb Munich and Enstingen, Germany; 24 bombers are lost, 4 are damaged beyond repair and 297 are damaged. Escort is provided by 717 P-38 Lightnings, P-47 Thunderbolts and P-51 Mustangs; 1 P-38 is damaged beyond repair.

- Mission 470: During the night, 6 B-17s drop leaflets in France.

The first two Gloster Meteor Mk I jets are delivered to No. 616 Squadron RAF based at Culmhead, Somerset. By the end of August, the squadron has transitioned from Vickers Supermarine Spitfire Mk. VIIs to Meteors becoming the first operational Allied jet fighters squadron.

FRANCE: The US forces capture Hill 92, just two miles east of St. Lo.

Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., son of President Theodore Roosevelt and assigned to the US First Army, dies of a heart attack in Normandy, France. He was 56. Roosevelt was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at Normandy on 6 June 1944. The citation for the medal reads, “Citation: for gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty on 6 June 1944, in France. After two verbal requests to accompany the leading assault elements in the Normandy invasion had been denied, Brigadier General Roosevelt’s written request for this mission was approved and he landed with the first wave of the forces assaulting the enemy-held beaches. He repeatedly led groups from the beach, over the seawall and established them inland. His valor, courage, and presence in the very front of the attack and his complete unconcern at being under heavy fire inspired the troops to heights of enthusiasm and self-sacrifice. Although the enemy had the beach under constant direct fire, Brigadier General Roosevelt moved from one locality to another, rallying men around him, directed and personally led them against the enemy. Under his seasoned, precise, calm, and unfaltering leadership, assault troops reduced beach strong points and rapidly moved inland with minimum casualties. He thus contributed substantially to the successful establishment of the beachhead in France.” The medal was posthumously awarded on 28 September 1944. (Jack McKillop and W. Jay Stone)

300+ USAAF Ninth Air Force A-20 Havocs and B-26 Marauders fly morning and afternoon missions against fuel dumps at Foret d’Andaine and Foret d’Ecouves, military concentrations at Foret de Cinglais, rail bridges at Merey, Cinq Mars-la-Pile, Saumur, Nantes, and Nogent-le-Roi, and other rail and road targets; fighters furnish escort, cover the battle area, and fly armed reconnaissance over wide areas, attacking rail lines south and west of Rambouillet, bridges and fuel dump in the Nantes vicinity, trains and military transport at Vitry-le-Francois, and grounded aircraft south of Chateaubriant, bridges at Craon, Le Mans, Pontorson, Mayenne, south of Rennes, north of Angers, and Tours, rail traffic south of Fougeres, and infantry and artillery positions near Periers.

ITALY: US air attacks against the bridges of the River Po begins. Operation MALLORY MAJOR conducted by Twelfth Air Force North American B-25 Mitchells and Martin B-26 Marauders against bridges spanning the Po River in Italy. The bridges were attacked on 12, 13, 14 and 15 July and was deemed a success and terminated on the 15th.

The Fifteenth Air Force in Italy dispatches 420+ B-24s to attack targets in southeastern France, scoring numerous hits on Nimes and Miramas marshalling yards and cutting rail lines at the Theoule-sur-Mer bridge and Var River bridge in Provence; around 50 enemy fighters oppose the missions; the bombers and escorting fighters claim 14 shot down; 7 AAF aircraft are lost.

FINLAND: Corporal Ville Väisänen is awarded the highest Finnish military award, Cross of Mannerheim Order, for destroying eight Soviet tanks using a Panzershreck. (Jukka Kauppinen)

The Soviet Union informs the Swedes that it is willing to discuss peace with Finland. (Gene)

U.S.S.R.: Idritsa falls to Yeremenko’s troops.

POLAND: Auschwitz-Birkenau: The “family camp” of 12,500 Jews is closed down, and 4,000 of them are gassed.

BURMA: No. 84 Squadron flies the last RAF missions against the Japanese equipped with the Vultee Vengeance dive-bomber. (22)

PACIFIC: Seventh Air Force P-47s based on Saipan Island continue pre-invasion attacks on Tinian Island.

AUSTRALIA: MacArthur asks Australian General Blamey to produce a plan for the relief of six US Divisions in the Solomon Islands and New Guinea, so as to free these forces for operations in the Philippines. Blamey proposed to use six Australian militia brigades to relieve the six US divisions, and maintain 1st Australian Corps at full strength with three AIF divisions, for use in MacArthur’s offensives in PI. Some US officers saw this as a slur on US troops (i.e. that six Australian militia brigades should relieve six US divisions). However, it wasn’t: the Japanese forces in the Solomons and New Guinea were not aggressive and Blamey correctly assessed that large forces were not necessary to contain them. (Michael Alexander)

CANADA:

Tugs HMCS Gleneagle and Glenkeen laid down Kingston, Ontario.

HMC ML 116 commissioned.

Frigate HMCS Sussexvale launched Lauzon, Province of Quebec.

Frigate HMCS Thetford Mines arrived Bermuda for workups. (DS)

U.S.A.: Elements of V Amphibious Corps HQ form Fleet Marine Forces, Pacific. (Gordon Rottman)

Destroyer USS Ebert commissioned.

Minesweeper USS Pivot commissioned. (DS)


7 posted on 07/12/2014 5:18:03 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thanks for posting these - I look forward to them every day.

The none-war news in this issue is interesting: Roosevelt (in many ways a covert socialist) signaling that he’d be willing to dump Wallace (an avowed socialist) for someone else as VP, with William O Douglas (one of the worst lefties ever on the Supreme Court) as a prominent candidate. No mention of Truman at all (that I saw), but plenty of indication they could have done a lot worse.

And the picture of the future queen suggests she was quite the babe at the time of WWII.


8 posted on 07/12/2014 5:32:26 AM PDT by Stosh
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By the time we get to the DNC in 8 days Douglas will have dropped out of the running. The leading contenders will all be members of the Senate, with Truman a dark horse.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 5:44:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thank goodness FDR let Wallace be replaced. President Wallace? Zoiks.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 5:52:28 AM PDT by tellw
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

America once had an El Presidente for life.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 6:25:33 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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July 12, 1944:

"Despite its commitment to humanitarian initiatives worldwide, the Switzerland-based International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) made only sporadic efforts to aid Europe's Jews during World War II.
Red Cross officials feared that public condemnation of Nazi atrocities could backfire and jeopardize the organization's relief work on behalf of POWs and civilian internees.

"The ICRC was convinced it could do little to actually rescue Jews.
Unable to even learn the fate of most deportees, the ICRC tried to relieve suffering by sending a few parcels of food, clothing, and medicine to camp inmates whose whereabouts were known.
The shipments failed to reach those in greatest need.
The Nazis blocked most Red Cross attempts to visit concentration and extermination camps.
Only after increased pressure in 1944 did the Nazis grudgingly allow the Red Cross to inspect the Theresienstadt, Czechoslovakia, camp/ghetto.
The 'inspection', however, was a charade, as the Nazis briefly turned the prison into a comfortable 'model' ghetto.
Deceived Red Cross inspectors wrote a favorable report of conditions.

"The ICRC more effectively protected Jews through the work of its representative in Budapest, Friedrich Born, who participated in international efforts to halt the deportations from Hungary in 1944.
More than 50 years after the Holocaust, International Red Cross officials acknowledged that more should and could have been done, and that the organization's meager efforts constituted a 'moral failure.' "



12 posted on 07/12/2014 6:28:48 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
The General chats with the princess -- page 8:

13 posted on 07/12/2014 6:35:08 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: tellw

“Thank goodness FDR let Wallace be replaced.”

‘Let’ is not the right word.


14 posted on 07/12/2014 6:36:13 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“Thank goodness FDR let Wallace be replaced.”

‘Let’ is not the right word.

In those days, the Democrat Party actually had conservatives and Wallace had shown himself to be unpalatable as the next President. It is very hard to believe that anyone could not see FDR and not fear/know that he would not serve out this 4th term. That his ego and cadre around him would use the "War Necessity" to go for it was close to criminal on their part. The damage done with his failing health and mentality, especially with Stalin, was enormous!

15 posted on 07/12/2014 7:25:39 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Wouldn’t be surprised at a “Obama Accepts 4th Term” headline.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 7:31:14 AM PDT by albie
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
V-1 Pulse Jet missile at top of Page 9 time-lapse photo (London: Death at Night)!

Look at the beads of the exhaust from the V-1 as it crosses the sky of London. It is a shame that they cannot reproduce the sound of that as well. The sound was actually part of the terror as this distance-bomb would cause the people below to wait for the sound to stop as that marks when the wings release and the missile drops!

The sound was totally absent from the next "Vengeance" Weapon, the V-2, which gave no warning as a supersonic ballistic missile coming overhead. Which gave the most fright could only be answered by those resilient Brits who were the targets!

17 posted on 07/12/2014 7:45:21 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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Yet again I cringe when I think of the current poor excuse for an “American” in the White House as I read Teddy’s son’s bio for the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt,_Jr.

With a reserve commission in the army (like Quentin and Archibald), soon after World War I started, Ted was called up. When the United States declared war on Germany, Ted volunteered to be one of the first soldiers to go to France. There, he was recognized as the best battalion commander in his division, according to the division commander. Roosevelt braved hostile fire and gas and led his battalion in combat. So concerned was he for his men’s welfare that he purchased combat boots for the entire battalion with his own money. He eventually commanded the 26th Regiment in the First Division as lieutenant colonel. He fought in several major battles. He was gassed and wounded at Soissons during the summer of 1918. In July of that year, his youngest brother Quentin was killed in combat. Ted received the Distinguished Service Cross for his actions during the war. France conferred upon him the Chevalier Légion d’honneur on March 16, 1919. Before the troops came home from France, Ted was one of the founders of the soldiers’ organization that developed as the American Legion.”

Despite a heart condition and arthritis that forced him to use a cane, General Roosevelt led the assault on Utah Beach.

Roosevelt was the only general on D-Day to land by sea with the first wave of troops. At 56, he would be the oldest man in the invasion, and the only man to serve with his son on D-Day at Normandy (Captain Quentin Roosevelt II was among the first wave of soldiers to land at Omaha beach while his father commanded at Utah beach).

Roosevelt was one of the first soldiers, along with Captain Leonard T. Schroeder Jr., off his landing craft as he led the U.S. 4th Infantry Division’s 8th Infantry Regiment and 70th Tank Battalion landing at Utah Beach. Roosevelt was soon informed that the landing craft had drifted more than a mile south of their objective, and the first wave of men was a mile off course. Walking with the aid of a cane and carrying a pistol, he personally made a reconnaissance of the area immediately to the rear of the beach to locate the causeways that were to be used for the advance inland. He returned to the point of landing and contacted the commanders of the two battalions, Lieutenant Colonels Conrad C. Simmons and Carlton O. MacNeely, and coordinated the attack on the enemy positions confronting them. Roosevelt’s famous words in these circumstances were, “We’ll start the war from right here!”.[16]

These impromptu plans worked with complete success and little confusion. With artillery landing close by, each follow-on regiment was personally welcomed on the beach by a cool, calm, and collected Roosevelt, who inspired all with humor and confidence, reciting poetry and telling anecdotes of his father to steady the nerves of his men. Roosevelt pointed almost every regiment to its changed objective. Sometimes he worked under fire as a self-appointed traffic cop, untangling traffic jams of trucks and tanks all struggling to get inland and off the beach. One GI later reported that seeing the general walking around, apparently unaffected by the enemy fire, even when clods of earth fell down on him, gave him the courage to get on with the job, saying if the general is like that it can’t be that bad.[citation needed]

When General Barton, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division, came ashore, he met Roosevelt not far from the beach. He later wrote that

while I was mentally framing [orders], Ted Roosevelt came up. He had landed with the first wave, had put my troops across the beach, and had a perfect picture (just as Roosevelt had earlier promised if allowed to go ashore with the first wave) of the entire situation. I loved Ted. When I finally agreed to his landing with the first wave, I felt sure he would be killed. When I had bade him goodbye, I never expected to see him alive. You can imagine then the emotion with which I greeted him when he came out to meet me [near La Grande Dune]. He was bursting with information.[17]

By modifying his division’s original plan on the beach, Roosevelt enabled the division to achieve its mission objectives by coming ashore and attacking north behind the beach toward its original objective. Years later, General Omar Bradley was asked to name the single most heroic action he had ever seen in combat, and he replied, “Ted Roosevelt on Utah Beach.”


18 posted on 07/12/2014 10:03:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

19 posted on 07/12/2014 10:20:36 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

My father was serving with the US Marines in the pacific, and my mother and her father, were assembling planes, at the Vultee plant in Downey California.

They met at a USO dance in Oceanside California, and would marry in 1946 after the war.

Most people today, have no grasp of the magnitude of WWII, for America. The total population was 160 million, and 16 million served in uniform during the period.

That would be equivalent to 32 million Americans in uniform today.

Southern California had blackouts, lest it be easier for the Japs to bomb us. They DID shell the oilfields at Elwood north of Santa Barbara.

The LA/Long Beach harbors had nets, to keep Jap subs out. The floats were later stacked alongside the Pacific Coast Hwy. for many years, near Seal Beach.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 10:40:24 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Today's 7th Army sector. The Germans are bringing 5th Parachute Division from Brittany to bolster LXXXIV Corps front:

12 JUL 44 7a photo 12JUL447a_zpsf4b44d19.jpg

21 posted on 07/12/2014 10:51:20 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Panzer Group West Sector. British 2nd Army continuing to attack in the Odon Valley. 12th SS Panzer Hitler Jugend has been pulled out of the line:

12 JUL 44 5pz photo 12JUL445pz_zpse86d4292.jpg

22 posted on 07/12/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Good thing Roosevelt chose Truman as his VP. Henry Wallace was a Soviet sympathizer. Truman was a Democrat, but loved America and tried to do right.


23 posted on 07/12/2014 10:54:52 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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“Thank goodness FDR let Wallace be replaced.”

‘Let’ is not the right word. Let me clarify. My only source in this is my old copy of David McCullough's TRUMAN, FDR told Wallace that he was his choice for VP, but the choice at that time was not FDR's alone to make obviously. FDR could have put up a real fight for Wallace but was convinced by his advisors not to. But letting it be thrown entirely to the convention and not doing more than making a basic statement that he would vote for Wallace were he one of the delegates, FDR let Wallace be replaced by Truman.

24 posted on 07/12/2014 12:20:44 PM PDT by tellw
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http://www.nebraskaaircrash.com/crashsites/daykin1.html

Seventy years ago today a P-47 Fighter pilot 2nd Lt. Charles F. Jewett from Lakeland, FL became a WWII statistic along with seven crew members of the B-17. They were part of the more than 15,000 training fatalities Unfortunately, portions of the two planes were for a very short time occupying the same air space. This accident occurred approximately four miles south of the Nebraska farm which was my childhood home.

The area is near what was at that time Bruning Army Air Field and practically every day, fighter planes would fill the skies doing dog fights. When a flight of bombers came over, they would attack that formation. I was four and a half years old at the time and remember that my two older brothers, my younger sister and I, if we were not outside already, would always run out of the house to watch the action.

I did not see the accident, but both of my brothers did. They said that the fighter plane clipped the tail off the bomber. We did, however, in a day or two, pile into the Model A and toured the area. The P-47 was in my eyes at the time, in a large round, deep hole with oil and water. I do not remember there being a crater. The pilot was still with the plane. We never heard if he or his plane were recovered.

Parts of the bomber were strewn over a wider area. The main part, the fuselage was located a short distance from the road and Mother said that there were guards. She seemed to think that some bodies were still in there. Don’t remember seeing the tail, but sitting near the road in a wheat field was an engine, prop still attached with a burned spot around it in the wheat field.

In the 90s, I had occasion to look for the P-47 with a prototype mapping metal detector and was not successful in locating any buried metal structures. Turns out that to find something that is lost underground, it helps a lot to know where it is. Our system would do about an acre an hour at 5’ data point spacing. We did 10’ spacing, but likely did not have the right spot. The photo seems to indicate that we were too far east, not far enough into the field.


25 posted on 07/12/2014 6:08:52 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: MuttTheHoople; Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; colorado tanker; TexasGator; tellw; SES1066
MuttTheHoople: "Good thing Roosevelt chose Truman as his VP.
Henry Wallace was a Soviet sympathizer.
Truman was a Democrat, but loved America and tried to do right."

You may remember, in the past I've posted that President Obama's political "father" was Lyndon Johnson and "grandfather" Franklin Roosevelt.
Well, now I'd say that's way too generous to Obama, and even insulting to Johnson & FDR.

Obama's political "father" is, of course, Jimmy Carter and "grandfather" Henry Wallace.
Just imagine a Wallace presidency, and that's what we have now, only worse.

26 posted on 07/13/2014 1:49:41 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: tellw

Uh, you are totally missing the anti-Wallace movement by major democratic leaders. FDR was not convinced by his advisors. Wallace was defeated due to political maneuvering by major democrats at the convention.


27 posted on 07/13/2014 7:20:42 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
It was a wartime party unity move by FDR to not make a forced stand of support for Wallace in 1944. Being President, FDR could certainly have shut down the Anti-Wallace movement, and he would have been broadly supported in doing so: 65% of voting Democrats according to the Gallup poll taken at the time of the convention supported keeping Wallace on the ballot.
28 posted on 07/13/2014 10:10:30 AM PDT by tellw
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To: tellw

The democratic leaders knew FDR was at death’s door and they in NO WAY would allow Wallace to become president.

FDR was a worn out old man and had no real fight/say in the process.


29 posted on 07/13/2014 10:27:11 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

What was Wallace’s major problem? It wouldn’t have been being too pro-Soviet; the USSR was our ally in 1944 (that certainly was Wallace’s problem when he ran for President independently in 1948 and only got 2% of the vote)).


30 posted on 07/13/2014 1:42:20 PM PDT by tellw
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