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Testimony Reveals What Military Did While Benghazi Post Burned
News Max ^ | July 12 2014 | News Max

Posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:57 AM PDT by PoloSec

One by one, behind closed doors in Washington, D.C.,, military officers explained what they did and didn't do the night the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, burned.

Together their 30 hours of testimony to congressional investigators gives the fullest account yet of the military's response to the surprise attacks that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans the night of Sept. 11, 2012, and early the next morning.

Transcripts of the interviews, with some names and classified information blacked out, were released Wednesday

The nine officers, including retired Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the military's U.S. Africa Command, described making on-the-fly decisions with only sparse information about the crisis unfolding at a diplomatic post and the nearby CIA compound.

None of them was in Benghazi. The closest? Some were 600 miles away in Tripoli, the Libyan capital; others gave orders from command headquarters in Germany or Washington.

They did not witness what went on in the White House or at the State Department. Ex-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and others have testified about Benghazi. More hearings are coming.

The nine officers shed light on the nature of the attacks; speculation that the military was ordered to "stand down" from helping Americans; suggestions that the U.S. should have rushed jets or a special operations team to Benghazi; and early misperceptions that the attack began as a protest over an anti-Islam video.

Some lingering questions about the Benghazi attacks and what the officers told the House Armed Services Committee and the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee this year:

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All of this smells to me...

From the story (Two military teams — one in Croatia and the other in the U.S. — prepared to go but, as the situation changed, weren't brought to Libya. They would have arrived too late.)

The question still remains and apparently was not asked, How did you know, how long the attack would last?

So in hindsight they could say it would have been too late, but how could they know that at the time, I mean they testified they knew so little yet they knew any response would have been too late.

1 posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:57 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Everyone who draws pay from the federal government lives in terror of reprisal from this administration. Whistleblowing, once encouraged, is now soundly punished. Those who dare speak the truth risk everything.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 8:55:16 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: PoloSec
Perhaps Barry can help clear up the discrepancies for us?

the thinks HE is beyond TIME and SPACE.....




3 posted on 07/12/2014 8:56:27 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Spok

Have they ever considered that there’s safety in numbers? Form a group and tell everything to the news stations, get it spread all over the Internet and we might just see some spines grow where impeaching the ahole at 1600 isn’t considered an impossibility.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 9:00:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: PoloSec

Something isn’t right here. No military man would have just stood there and done nothing unless he KNEW for sure, and for a fact, that any danger had passed. If he didn’t know he would have gotten there as fast as he could just in case he could help his fellow soldiers/those in trouble.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 9:06:28 AM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: B4Ranch

There were members of Diplomatic Security that wanted to have ex-SF people on the detail who were trained and equipped to call in outside military support in an emergency. The State Dept didn’t want that..they didn’t want any ex-military people on the detail..only ex-LEO’S. They did not plan for any aggressive response to a attack. I don’t think the detail even fired their weapons. The CIA people did however and they were the ex-Seals. Evidently the two groups had different rules of engagement.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 9:09:50 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: B4Ranch

They have so much to lose. Retirement, reputation, pets, whatever

And for what? No one will believe them. Obama said everything that he was and people voted him in twice. They either don’t believe him or they want what he wants

You see four star military retiring rather than speaking out

The likes of Brett baier are cowered into complimenting Hillary gushing Greta does it too

Cowardice?


7 posted on 07/12/2014 9:10:55 AM PDT by stanne
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To: PoloSec
This was September 11th anniversary, for crying out loud.

None of the “Brass” of military leaders thought to put their special forces, F-16s, security forces, etc. on alert?

What the hell was Christopher Stephens doing in Benghazi on September 11th? Why wasn't he advised to stay in Tripoli on September 11th, where there was adequate security.

What kind of alerts went out from SecState to all U.S. Embassies (world-wide even) on September 11th?

8 posted on 07/12/2014 9:15:34 AM PDT by detch
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To: PoloSec

I thought we had special forces in Sicily and they were the closest possible response.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 9:16:30 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

Impeaching the ahole at this point would be harmful to our cause.

His incompetence and that of the Dem congressional leadership is apparent in every major story right now. Our prospects for taking the Senate are excellent, even with fighting chance for a veto-proof majority.

Don’t change the subject to impeachment. At best, we’d get idiot Joe Biden in his place.

I lived through Watergate and its aftermath. It was dangerous then to be focused on internal scandal rather than our enemies. Same when we were talking about a blue dress and a womanizer instead of al Qeueda in the 90s.

Our world is in scary shambles. Disarm the Marxist and take away all the money, but leave him where we can see him. Defund widely. Keep our eyes on threats from withint and without.

More importantly, take full control of Congress this fall to control any Supreme Court nomination and to slap down Executive overreach for the next two years..


10 posted on 07/12/2014 9:22:28 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: morphing libertarian

If we had dispatched forces, it would have blew the deals thighness and zero had going on the ground... the muzzies would have backed out of whatever arms transactions were underway if a bunch of aircraft from Sigonella started strafing them.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 9:23:51 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: All

Early reports talked about Benghazi live video from an overhead UAV (aka drone).

Has this ever been confirmed?


12 posted on 07/12/2014 9:24:26 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: stanne

And possibly their lives. It has happened.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 9:24:28 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: txhurl

Of course.


14 posted on 07/12/2014 9:26:02 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Jedidah

You can define it as incompetence only if you think they want what you want. They don’t. They are getting what they want in spades. They are very “competent.” It is the opposition that is less than able to accomplish something, anything.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 9:26:50 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: detch

maybe there was something going on.....I believe the most pertinent point was told the two days after the attack. The attackers yelled out “Don’t shoot, Don’t shoot! Dr. Morsi sent us us.” There was a deal between ‘Dr. Morsi’(Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood cohort) and Obama to capture the Ambassador and trade him for (Guantanamo prisoners? The blind sheikh?) in order to look heroic. Just like everything this traitor has done, it backfired. But, not his fault.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 9:38:08 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Jedidah

Our world has been in a scary shambles just about my entire life and I’m 66.


17 posted on 07/12/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: morphing libertarian

That’s also why that laser that was painted on the target wasn’t actually targeted.


18 posted on 07/12/2014 9:39:36 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: PoloSec

The treasonous, moronic cowards let Americans DIE
precisely so that America would hencefore be
defined as letting its HEROES be raped and murdered
while being filmed and watched at the WHITE HOUSE,
and so that MANDPADS (which will be used to murder
innocent Americans) could be transferred to
al Qaeda (now ISIS).

How is that other than THEIR, Huma’s,
Clinton’s and Obama’s fault?


19 posted on 07/12/2014 9:40:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT US Congress remains COMPLICIT)
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To: txhurl

Let’s hope the Hero of Benghazi and his Lt. the Defender of Benghazi will reap the just rewards they deserve.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 9:41:26 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: detch
None of the “Brass” of military leaders thought to put their special forces, F-16s, security forces, etc. on alert?

I recall that in the previous administration, at each 9/11 anniversary, the media would report on heightened readiness.

It speaks volumes that the current Regime considered 9/11 as just another day. Was Panetta ever grilled on this?

21 posted on 07/12/2014 9:41:59 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: PoloSec

Pure and simple the military was stopped from automatically reacting to the situation in Benghazi by someone of higher authority within the Cabinet of the C.I.C., or the C.I.C. himself. No further explanation required.

Now the question is who, and why?

A cover up is in process.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 9:42:25 AM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: az_gila
Early reports talked about Benghazi live video from an overhead UAV (aka drone). Has this ever been confirmed?

Issa thinks so as he subpoenaed it (several times).

23 posted on 07/12/2014 9:43:26 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Spok

Everyone who lives under the thumb of this regime, taxpayer citizens, live in terror of this regime. EPA declares you have a pond on your property they destroy you. Refuse to bake a cake for a few homos and they destroy you.

Cross the border illegally, Jackpot.
Collect welfare and vote democrat. OBAMAPHONE.


24 posted on 07/12/2014 9:50:33 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: PoloSec
By now it's pretty clear what was happening in Benghazi.

Stevens and the CIA were running weapons from Qadaffi’s stores to ISIS in Syria via Turkey. Stevens was in Benghazi to meet a Turkish attache regarding a shipment the day of the attack.

My guess for the reason for the attack is simple: Libya jihadi militias wanted those weapons for themselves, and weren't too keen on having them taken away.

The whole operation was on a need to know basis: the operation was run from Benghazi because it's more isolated. In Tripoli, these activities would have drawn too much attention.

The attack when it occurred was monitored live in the WH, but no rescue operation was going to be authorized - the election was a couple of months away and any rescue would draw attention to what was going on there. And a jihadi attack on 9/11 would give the lie to Barry's foreign policy “successes.”

The guys in the field were left to fend for themselves, while the WH cooked up the stupid video story.

Barry figured that a compliant press more interested in getting their man reelected would ignore the story, and he was right.

These military guys in Tripoli probably suspected more than they're telling, but since they were kept in the dark about the operation they can testify under oath that they didn't know much and still technically be telling the truth.

25 posted on 07/12/2014 10:05:42 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: PoloSec
Tripoli rescue team told to stand down.

Hicks: Special Forces ‘Furious’ Upon Being Told to Stand Down video at link

"According to Benghazi whistleblower Gregory Hicks, the deputy chief of mission in Libya, special forces were “furious” when they were told to stand down during the Benghazi attack. “I will quote Lieutenant Colonel Gibson,” Hicks told the House Oversight Committee in hearings today, “He said, ‘This is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military.’”"

This might be considered a stand down too.

Whistle-blower: Botched talking points hurt FBI probe of Benghazi attack

"Another whistle-blower questioned Wednesday why more military assets were not deployed sooner during the Benghazi terror attack. Mark Thompson, a former Marine and official with the State Department's Counterterrorism Bureau, said he was rebuffed by the White House when he asked for a specialized team -- known as a FEST team -- to be deployed. This is a unit made of special operations personnel, diplomatic security, intelligence and other officers."

BENGAZI - Why Wasn't FEST Activated?

Here is a third way a "stand down" policy was implemented IMO.

Blow-by-Blow: How Obama & Hillary Left Americans to Die

"Nordstrom further testified in writing that Hillary Clinton waived security requirements for the Benghazi consulate despite high and critical threat levels in the six categories of security standards established under the Overseas Security Policy Board and the Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act of 1999. The waiver can only be authorized by the Secretary of State, who cannot delegate that responsibility to someone else. ”If the Secretary of State did not waive these requirements, who did so by ordering occupancy of the facilities in Benghazi and Tripoli?” Nordstrom wrote."


26 posted on 07/12/2014 10:28:13 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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Of course there was no "stand down" order for troops outside of Libya. There has to be a CBA (Cross Border Authority) order given which is more like a "stand up" order. The fact that no rescue was sent is proof that no CBA was given.

Only the POTUS has the authority to issue a CBA!

0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.

Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker

They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.

Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37

There are three scandals here...

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Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.

The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.

ONE man had the authority to act that night.

ONE man deserted his post!

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

0bama abandoned his post. 0bama Is A Deserter!

0bama did nothing!!!


27 posted on 07/12/2014 10:29:48 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: mojito

Excellent summary!


28 posted on 07/12/2014 10:32:02 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: detch
This was September 11th anniversary, for crying out loud. None of the “Brass” of military leaders thought to put their special forces, F-16s, security forces, etc. on alert?

That is an especially pertinent question since numerous other embassies around the world were under assault all day long on Sept. 11th 2012. The Cairo embassy was almost breached. All of that was going on for hours before the attack in Benghazi and every situation room in DC and around the world was keeping a close eye on it all.

29 posted on 07/12/2014 10:36:57 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: detch
Why wasn't he advised to stay in Tripoli on September 11th, where there was adequate security.

Actually there wasn't.

Blow-by-Blow: How Obama & Hillary Left Americans to Die

”If the Secretary of State did not waive these requirements, who did so by ordering occupancy of the facilities in Benghazi and Tripoli?” Nordstrom wrote."


30 posted on 07/12/2014 10:40:41 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: PoloSec
He was told, "Don't go. Don't get on that plane."

"Initially, I was angry," he recalled. "Because a tactical commander doesn't like to have those decisions taken away from him. But then once I digested it a little bit, then I realized, OK, maybe there was something going on. Maybe I'm needed here for something else."

Rear Adm. Brian Losey, who gave the order, said he needed Gibson's team in Tripoli in case trouble started there.

IOW.... Losey gave the order to stand down.

31 posted on 07/12/2014 11:05:03 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
That order only affected personnel in Tripoli. It had no bearing on the
complete lack of response from U.S. forces stationed outside of Libya.

Did 0bama issue a CBA or not? That is the question.

32 posted on 07/12/2014 11:17:22 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

Something isn’t right here. No military man would have just stood there and done nothing unless he KNEW for sure, and for a fact, that any danger had passed. If he didn’t know he would have gotten there as fast as he could just in case he could help his fellow soldiers/those in trouble.


In the Military, when you have people in trouble, you do not ask if you can get there on time - you go. You go even it if it’s improbable that you will get there in time because every soldier needs know that when the chips are down and s**t has hit the fan, his buddies are doing everything they can to help out.

This is really what was lost in Benghazi- the trust of the individual Soldier that his team has his back when it counts.

The actions of our senior leaders have dug a big hole and their comments just keep digging the hole deeper.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 11:19:22 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: PoloSec
"The question still remains and apparently was not asked, How did you know, how long the attack would last?"

Any investigator NOT asking this question should be fired for gross incompetence.

34 posted on 07/12/2014 11:46:01 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: Spok

Spok! This is the Chicago way. Val Jar is the honcho for this activity.


35 posted on 07/12/2014 11:46:43 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 84)
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To: arthurus

Wrong

I said his claim that D’s google claim was bogus was off

D’s lawyers say they have a case against google

It’ll be bogus or not depending now on what the court says. Those are just facts.

B can say or do whatever he wants. But there is the world of facts


36 posted on 07/12/2014 11:59:23 AM PDT by stanne
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To: PoloSec

everyone should read Ken Timmerman’s new book Dark Forces, also go the website of Walid Shoebat, he has this pretty much figured out. Also google “Benghazi or bust” and watch the video that will come up. The Obama Admin was responsible for the video, mark Youseffe has a long history as a Federal informant and small time crook, he never made a movie in is life. He was let out of jail a year early in JUne 2011, a couple weeks later he contacted a movie industry small timer named Alan Roberts real name Robert Brownell to help make the film. Mark Youseffe then contacted Steve Klein and Joseph Nassralla to be used as dupes to take the blame for the video. Joseph Nassralla’s business “Media for Christ” was used without his permission to apply for film permits. Two weeks before Sept. 11, 2012 Youseffe contacted Morris Sadek and Dr. Terry Jones and asked them to promote the film, never called “innocence of Muslims” until Sept. 11, 2012. Youseffe was arrested on Sept. 15, 2012 right on schedule and whisked away by the Justice dept, after conveniently calling the Wall Street Journals as “Sam Bacile” on the morning of Sept. 12, 2012 to blame the video on Jews who financed the movie, a complete lie. When contacted just a few hours later as Nakoula Nakoula he claimed to be a Coptic Christian, also a lie. Youseffe is a Muslim with ties to Eiad Salameh, his partner in crime for eight years and a known terrorist, they are probably both from Syria or Palestine. Google Walid Shobat, Robert Brownell etc, the truth is all out there for anyone to figure out. We have a president, Attorney General, former Secy of State and director of the CIA and many more who have committed treason on a grand scale. I recommend everyone call their elected representatives and demand the truth.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 12:04:00 PM PDT by benghaziistreason
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To: benghaziistreason; Republicanprofessor

Welcome to Free Republic.

Contact Republicanprofessor to be added to the Benghazi ping list. You can add your research to the mix.


38 posted on 07/12/2014 12:11:23 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... you don't want to go there, buddy.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...

Benghazi ping.

Let Republicanprofessor know if you want on or off this ping list.


39 posted on 07/12/2014 1:55:22 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: PoloSec

bfl


40 posted on 07/12/2014 3:03:38 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: benghaziistreason
There is some good material in the book Blood Feud about Benghazi as well. Klein accepts the theory that this was all about getting weapons to the people in Syria that Obama wanted to help (illegally).

Obama tried to get Hillary to do the talk shows the following Sunday. Apparently Hillary almost agreed but Bill talked her out of it.

41 posted on 07/12/2014 3:46:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Jedidah

I agree 100% with your post.


42 posted on 07/12/2014 4:13:05 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: benghaziistreason

Welcome aboard.

GO GOWDY!


43 posted on 07/12/2014 4:32:11 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: stanne

You can’t expect military brass to merely inconvenience themselves over a few perks, much less their lives. And to an even lesser degree, politicians. It is the job of young military recruits to put their lives on the line. It is the job of military brass and politicians to praise them for doing it.


44 posted on 07/12/2014 4:56:51 PM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

Rick Perry, military brass, citizens, dads, Hollywood writers take notice, young recruits and all Americans are running out of role ideals


45 posted on 07/12/2014 5:04:33 PM PDT by stanne
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To: detch; PoloSec

AND, more CORRECTLY......WHAT was three dozens+ gagged CIAs doing in Benghazi tooooo??? That’s the HOT potato not asked!!!


46 posted on 07/12/2014 7:50:17 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: az_gila
Has this ever been confirmed?

I heard a congressman on the radio say that there IS a video and that he had seen a small part of it but not the whole thing.....yet.

47 posted on 07/13/2014 5:33:10 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: PoloSec

IF the top brass was NOT told to ‘stand down’ they need to resign. Really, why put up with the costs of having a military if they can’t respond to something this simple.


48 posted on 07/13/2014 5:53:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (A ship once out of port is hard to capture:know this now before it is too late. - Solon)
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To: MeshugeMikey

HA!

The look on that second drummer’s face as he spies the flag.


49 posted on 07/13/2014 9:14:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

and that second drummers part of the original image ..and was not altered to have that expression ...oddly enough.


50 posted on 07/13/2014 12:38:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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