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The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control
The Guardian ^ | July 10.2014 | antony Lowenstein

Posted on 07/12/2014 9:02:52 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.

On 5 July he spoke at a conference in London organised by the Centre for Investigative Journalism and revealed the extent of the surveillance programs unleashed by the Bush and Obama administrations.

“At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: nsa; sureveillance
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1 posted on 07/12/2014 9:02:52 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

2 posted on 07/12/2014 9:05:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
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Is the new episode of Person of Interest ready for airing?
3 posted on 07/12/2014 9:08:12 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
The ultimate goal of the Left in all its gradations is total population control

NSA is but a tool.

4 posted on 07/12/2014 9:21:36 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good analogy.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 9:38:05 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Sounds pretty tribulational to me. Find the Christians and Jews...


6 posted on 07/12/2014 9:40:38 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama has the same blood in his veins as Pol Pot, Stalin, and Castro. And like those three he surrounds himself with people who have no problem taking care of the dirty work. It may seem hyperbolic of me but when you analyze who he has studied, raised by, and surrounds himself with I think it is a fair conclusion. Luckily there are enough guns the NSA can’t track to keep the tyranny somewhat at bay.

The NSA IS a tool to prove everyone is a criminal. The Obamas of the nation will keep writing laws to ensure we are all criminals.


7 posted on 07/12/2014 9:42:23 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: arthurus
The ultimate goal of the Left Statist in all its gradations is total population control

FTFY — we don't want to leave out the Republicans that are also working for this goal.

8 posted on 07/12/2014 9:43:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

A modern tyrant no longer needs to post burly machinegun toting men on street corners. He controls a population with REGULATIONS and PAPER.

Want to work? Need a WORK PERMIT!

Want a place to live? Need a RESIDENCY PERMIT!

Want to travel? (Only on PUBLIC TRANSIT, of course.) Need a TRAVEL PERMIT or INTERNAL PASSPORT! (After the E15 ethanol gasoline destroys your engine.)

Want to eat? Need that FOOD RATION BOOK!

And draconian penalties await those who fail to obey the regulations or help others do so. That’s when the burly armed men appear. And they will just be “following orders.” Now where have we heard THAT phrase before??

“That could NEVER HAPPEN HERE,” say you?

That’s what many of our fellow “citizens” said about Obama!

It’s also what many of his critics said about Hitler before he got 100 fellow Nazis ELECTED – that’s right, ELECTED – to the Reischstag in 1933. They promptly VOTED TO GIVE HITLER TOTAL CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT.

The rest is one of the saddest chapters in world history.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 10:01:58 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: arthurus

A modern tyrant no longer needs to post burly machinegun toting men on street corners. He controls a population with REGULATIONS and PAPER.

Want to work? Need a WORK PERMIT!

Want a place to live? Need a RESIDENCY PERMIT!

Want to travel? (Only on PUBLIC TRANSIT, of course.) Need a TRAVEL PERMIT or INTERNAL PASSPORT! (After the E15 ethanol gasoline destroys your engine.)

Want to eat? Need that FOOD RATION BOOK!

And draconian penalties await those who fail to obey the regulations or help others do so. That’s when the burly armed men appear. And they will just be “following orders.” Now where have we heard THAT phrase before??

“That could NEVER HAPPEN HERE,” say you?

That’s what many of our fellow “citizens” said about Obama!

It’s also what many of his critics said about Hitler before he got 100 fellow Nazis ELECTED – that’s right, ELECTED – to the Reischstag in 1933. They promptly VOTED TO GIVE HITLER TOTAL CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT.

The rest is one of the saddest chapters in world history.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 10:02:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: OneWingedShark

The idea of Republican benevolence should be stomped out. Bush’s administration began this crap and few on the Right cared or even gave a second thought to Binney and remained silent while whistleblowers were nearly destroyed.

Partisanship should have its throat cut everywhere it rears its ugly head. The ruling class of this country deserves no privacy, no quarter, no moment of rest. They wish to destroy the middle class and the Republicans only see the power they could potentially gain once the wind changes in their direction. A Republican party unified by greed, corruption, and control is just as dangerous to liberty as if it was perpetrated by the Left. The Republican party stinks of rot and festers with corruption. BURN IT DOWN.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 10:04:16 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: OneWingedShark

There are many entities working for the goal of total world domination. The question vis a vis the NSA should be: WHO ARE THE UNOFFICIAL CUSTOMERS for NSA data? Who besides the military and Homeland Security are clandestinely being given access to this data stream?

CLUE:

http://www.ted.com/talks/william_black_how_to_rob_a_bank_from_the_inside_that_is


12 posted on 07/12/2014 10:05:08 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: drunknsage

Dude, put me on your mailing list.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 10:07:51 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: arthurus

Wait till no one has any money for “humanitarianism” and China will no longer need us or loan us money—they will catch on that its throwning money down a rat hole. Then we will be saved by our poverty


14 posted on 07/12/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: huldah1776

In Daniel Chapter 2, God uses the imagery of beasts to describe governments (kings/kingdoms) in reference to the succeeding world powers that would come after Nebuchadnezzar as the head of gold representing Babylon.

Later on in other imagery:

“The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand on the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.” (Babylon) Daniel 7:4

It stood up like a man,

“a mans heart was given to it” = democracy

“I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.” Daniel 7:8

Antichrist is a spirit (and was already at work in Johns day) and its this spirit which empowers the “little horn” at the time of end where its also given that it can “see” like a man. I conjecture this is referencing being able to monitor its citizens every move.

Its been only within the past few decades, with the widespread availability of new technologies, communication satellites, cell towers, computers and now (Tower of Babel) internet connectivity, cloud computing, smart phones, webcams etc., that individual activities can and are being increasingly monitored.

We’ve become a surveillance society, our every move, purchase, credit transaction, web page visit, blog postings, opinions, habits and political affiliations along with anything else they want to know about us can be monitored, tracked, indexed and stored away until needed later to “protect” us,

Its this information for which those in authority will have going forward to use against anyone on the outside of the current power structure, having never broken any law, to even consider public service or to seek elected office or promote any voice that fails to hold the politically acceptable ‘safe’ views,

They want us to assume its normal, knowing that any society where its every collective thought is consumed with finding ways to bring themselves more entertainment, joy and self-gratification will eventually shrug and give up their freedom when that comfort is threatened.

They would need only to use certain kinds of events or manufactured crisis’s along the way to be adequately exploited to tighten the hold, like a large snake slowly constricting its hold,

This is the spirit of antichrist at work,

Its “the eyes of a man,”

And its this type of spirit that is rising in power when the end of the age comes,

“I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.” Daniel 7:21-22

We’re shown in Revelation, there will finally come Ten kings which have no power until that time, that will empower it to the degree we’re told that God will have to act against it,

“And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.” Revelation 17:8-14


15 posted on 07/12/2014 10:46:24 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

China has already caught on and is using our vaporous paper to buy solid real gold. China will go to a gold standard at some point and the world’s fiat currencies will suddenly be worth nothing.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 10:57:18 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Dick Bachert

If you look around you, you can see that rather a lot of it is already happening here.


17 posted on 07/12/2014 10:58:28 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: OneWingedShark

The Left. The Republicans are quite left now, too.


18 posted on 07/12/2014 10:59:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus
The Left. The Republicans are quite left now, too.

I agree that such is the reality; however, I think there are a lot of people who would still exclude Republican from the left.
Using statist removes any possibility of them being excluded because they are a hair's width more to the right using the somewhat relative term of the left.

19 posted on 07/12/2014 11:15:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: drunknsage

Well said.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 11:17:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: captmar-vell

Because God is just and calls upon us to “choose” our alliance, I have thought for decades that democracy and one man - one vote will bring about the joyful willingness of people to submit to the rule of the evil trio. Because I read the Bible literally and figuratively, I do believe that two humans and Satan make up the tribulational anti-Christ. Maranatha!


21 posted on 07/12/2014 12:22:22 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I agree, its a duo, with the ‘man of sin’ or ‘son of perdition’ or ‘the lawless one’ whatever you want to call him, and with many other descriptive titles, along with the false prophet, with the dragon, Satan acting as their god,

He cannot be revealed until the restrainer is no longer restraining. God is in control.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 12:15:03 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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