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Rubio: I can beat Hillary
The Hill ^ | July 11, 2014 | Rachel Huggins

Posted on 07/12/2014 11:18:39 AM PDT by Innovative

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) believes he can beat Hillary Clinton in the race for the 2016 presidency.

"Multiple people can beat her. Hillary Clinton is not unbeatable," the GOP presidential hopeful told radio host Hugh Hewitt in an interview Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: amnesty; clinton; hillary; openborders; rino; rubio
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I don't know, but I know that if we get another Dem in the White House, he/she will finish off of what's left of the US after Obama...
1 posted on 07/12/2014 11:18:39 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Then quite talking about it and go do it Rubio.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 11:20:45 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: Innovative

Rubio would be less qualified as a conservative to run than Romney. What he’s saying is I’m not as bad as a real Democrat.


3 posted on 07/12/2014 11:21:11 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Innovative

Rubio will bring energy and bilingual skills to his November 2016 concession speech.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 11:21:58 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Innovative

If we get another open borders shill, dem or Repub in the White House, he/she will finish off of what’s left of the US after Obama...

Rubio has proven where he stands....no thanks.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 11:23:35 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: rottndog

If Rubio gets the nomination, he will probably pick as his Vice Presidential candidate, his good friend and amnesty pal, Charles Schumer.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 11:26:44 AM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: Innovative

We may not have an alternative, depending on what the Republicans run in 2016.


7 posted on 07/12/2014 11:26:57 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Innovative

Is Rubio sure that Obama is leaving


8 posted on 07/12/2014 11:27:02 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Innovative

After observing Rubio lately, I think he maybe meant he could be Hillary.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 11:27:44 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Gen.Blather

If Cruz is not on the ticket I will write him in.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 11:27:51 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Innovative

So can Mickie Mouse.

Rubio can go beat his meat!


11 posted on 07/12/2014 11:28:28 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: rottndog

I personally like Perry, he has a great record in Texas, — I think he would make a great president, but I am concerned of his ability to mount a successful campaign and avoid destructive gaffes which would result in losing the election.


12 posted on 07/12/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
Multiple people can beat her.

Sounds like a plan. Put it on pay-per-view.

13 posted on 07/12/2014 11:30:45 AM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ Þ)
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To: Innovative
That's what happened to my first choice, Bachmann, in 2012. I think we'll need to run a woman in 2016, whether Hillary gets the nod or not.

That said, I could support Perry.

14 posted on 07/12/2014 11:31:13 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Innovative

Go beat your meat, Rubio. I will never vote for you.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 11:32:00 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Innovative
Rubio is McCain with a accent and without the military service.

Rubio is a open border lover who wants to arm 'rebels' all over the world.

16 posted on 07/12/2014 11:32:17 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Innovative
I could never trust this man. He stabbed us in the back once already and there is no way I'll give him another chance.

Go down and look at the border Marco and see what your talk did.

17 posted on 07/12/2014 11:37:11 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Theoria

Rubio is a open border lover who wants to arm ‘rebels’ all over the world.

Rubio was warned that the gun was loaded ,but he went ahead and shot himself in the foot anyway


18 posted on 07/12/2014 11:38:47 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Innovative

I could get behind Rubio. As I push him over the cliff.
Personally for me it is waaay too early. A lot of shiites will hit the fan before this is close to over.


19 posted on 07/12/2014 11:41:04 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Innovative

No thanks Rubio. If we don’t get someone in there who understands US sovereignty, we’ll get nothing but dems in the White House.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 11:44:44 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: dalereed

What an needlessly aggressive remark. He should not try to beat it he should try to understand it, sometimes things are looking down. However when things are looking up he should embrace it and take matters into his own hand and move forward to a mutually satisfying outcome.

Political BS speech to follow.


21 posted on 07/12/2014 11:51:34 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: Innovative

WELL gosh with all the Negative Nancies around FR I’ll just say Rubio is great and yes he could beat Hillary. RUN, MARCO, RUN! Dont let the troll-CINOs discourage you.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 11:52:20 AM PDT by tellw
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I think I’ll just wait and see who emerges from the field before I support anyone. Each of those we think will run has faults - but, since most on here want someone pure - we’ll probably lose another election. That doesn’t mean we need a full-fledged RINO like Romney, but, we might have to take an 80 percenter - as Reagan once said.


23 posted on 07/12/2014 11:53:10 AM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: Catsrus

“That doesn’t mean we need a full-fledged RINO like Romney, but, we might have to take an 80 percenter - as Reagan once said.”

I couldn’t agree with you more, unfortunately there are too many people with a “cut off your nose to spite your face” attitude.

Any Republican would have been better than Obama and would be better than Hillary — don’t forget she was pushing the full socialized medicine when she was in the White House.


24 posted on 07/12/2014 11:56:46 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: tellw

Rubio should enter the Democrat Primary


25 posted on 07/12/2014 11:56:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Dagnabitt

LOL


26 posted on 07/12/2014 11:58:41 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Innovative
But what difference would it make?
27 posted on 07/12/2014 11:59:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: FlJoePa

“Then quit talking about it and go do it Rubio.”

Well said!


28 posted on 07/12/2014 12:05:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The time to create an alternative is now.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 12:05:21 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Innovative

Sounds as if he is gonna take her on in the Uniparty primary.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 12:07:38 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Innovative

Whether you like it or not, it is inevitable that the GOP will turn more and more to Latino candidates for Governors, Senators and the Presidency.

Now I really don’t have a problem with that as long as we can recruit more guys and gals that come out of the same mold as Ted Cruz.

Actually I think we can. The GOPe will resist but, as they say, it will be futile. The demographics will dictate it.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 12:07:55 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: tellw

Rubio is despicable. In spanish he says “First comes the legalization. Then come the measures to secure the border” in English he says “he would never support a bill that didn’t secure the border first”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3031064/posts


32 posted on 07/12/2014 12:09:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Innovative

Any Republican is better than any Democrat by leaps and bounds, even RINO GOPe dopes.

All I see on this thread is whining and crying.

Quit your whining and get a great conservative candidate nominated.

That would be the best case scenario.

Name names for better than Rubio.

Let’s get a list.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 12:10:04 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Well to an extent part of the race is these before-the-season placement arguments.

Don’t let the left set the agenda.

Not 100% sure about Rubio, but I completely agree with him mixing it up about what Hillary said.


34 posted on 07/12/2014 12:10:44 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ifinnegan
Let’s get a list.

Right now I'm liking Cruz for his positions and speaking ability and Perry for his experience in successfully governing a large state.

35 posted on 07/12/2014 12:16:19 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Innovative

“but I am concerned of his ability to mount a successful campaign and avoid destructive gaffes which would result in losing the election.”

I used to think like that, but after watching the “Bridgegate scandal” successfully smear Chris Christie for the better part of a year I am sure that “destructive gaffes” would be manufactured if necessary.


36 posted on 07/12/2014 12:17:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: oldbrowser

Cruz, definitely. GOPe hates him, though.

Perry has sounded good lately. But he is as hated as Rubio by the ones on this thread.

To me Rand Paul is a no go for President (but I would vote for him if he were the nominee).

Sarah Palin is hated by GOPe and some others. Toe me shed be a go. But I do not believe she will run.

Michelle Bachman is a possibility.

Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin is a possibility.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 12:22:54 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: oldbrowser

Does Cruz speak Spanish?

The fact is, Bush got the highest R Hispanic vote because he could and did speak some Spanish.

I figure a Rubio or other candidate who is fluent will increase the percentage.


38 posted on 07/12/2014 12:25:59 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Ted Cruz, Mike Pence or Scott Walker would be great choices. Not seeing much else out there.


39 posted on 07/12/2014 12:36:11 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: rottndog

Marco will test whether Hillary or Elizabeth Warren will suddenly remember the ineligibility they so thoroughly proved for McCain between 2000 and 2008 in February, when McCaskill and Obama realized McCain’s ineligibility could be useful, and filed Senate Bill 2678, the “Foreign Born Children of Military Citizens Natural Born Citizen Act.” That bill, filed in February 2008, failed, so they filed the Senator John McCain Natural Born Citizen Resolution, SR 511, in April 2008.

Marco was born to alien parents, like Wong Kim Ark, whose parents were good residents of San Francisco, but not citizens. That famous case ruled, citing Minor v. Happersett as precedent, that Wong Kim was a citizen for having been born on our soil, but not a natural born citizen. Until the Supreme Court alters that interpretation, Rubio is not a natural born citizen.

But perhaps we continue to dismiss our framers and founders as stodgy nationalists living at a different time, who would have written a different set of requirements today, as Barack suggested when he was an Illinois senator, so we will continue to ignore Article II Section 1 Clause 5. Barack didn’t ignore it, Constitutional scholar that he is. He never claimed to be a natural born citizen. Ted Cruz properly informed us, through his Texas congressman friend, when asked about his eligibility. “Ted is as eligible to the presidency as Barack Obama.”

Ted was being honest, and is worth another attempt to amend Article II Section 1 Clause 5, as congressmen tried to do 8 times between 2001 and 2008, if we count the Obama/McCaskill bill, S. 2678. Conyers filed two attempts, Menedez one, Rhorabacher two, Nickles one, Hatch tried to make Schwarzenegger eligible, and Barney Frank one. Both parties wanted to loosen the natural born citizen provision, and no amendment of more than twenty five attempts has ever passed.

Our Republican leaders were complicit in an attack on Republican congressman Nathan Deal when he alone raised the eligibility issue. They consented to an IRS investigation and ethics charges rather than insist that the White House respond to Deal’s open letter simply asking for assurance requested by Deal’s Georgia constituents. No citizen has the resources to defend from an IRS attack. Deal resigned and became Governor of Georgia. All charges were dropped.

Why do you think Haley, Jindal, Rubio, and Cruz are being floated as potential rivals for Hillary? Republican leaders are more concerned with being exposed for their complicity in the Obama/McCain ineligibility cover-up than with not having an eligible candidate. Democrats won’t raise the issue if they are winning, but may if they aren’t. Just look of the dozen or so Washington Post articles, NYT, LA Times, Chicago Trib. between 2000 and 2008 if you, like most of us, didn’t pay attention when McCain’s problems with eligibility were being thoroughly vetted.

Hilary’s Pennsylvania campaign committee head, Paul Berg, provides cover for Hillary, having raised the probably phony Kenyan birth certificate issue, but Elizabeth Warren would not suffer if she were to expose any naturalized citizen trying to be president. Obama told us all he is a naturalized citizen, and never lied. The one state, Arizona, presumably possessing an Obama signature claiming natural born citizenship, was apparently a machine signature, and Nancy Pelosi’s signature was all that was necessary.

Obama told us “I am a native-born, citizen of the U.S.”. American Indians are native-born, and weren’t made citizens, because their allegiance was to their tribal governments. Obama was made a citizen because his mother is a citizen, even though born, by his own admission, a natural-born subject of the British Empire because of his father, He is a citizen by law, but, like Wong Kim Ark, not natural born.

You believed Mark Levin when he explained that the 1790 Nationality Act, making foreign-born children of citizens into natural born citizens enabled several candidates including McCain into natural born citizens? Levin knows as well as all Senators, who read the same claim in April 2008 Senate Resolution 511 written by Larry Tribe and Ted Olson. SR 511 is Obama/McCaskill/Leahy’s second attempt to fog McCain’s ineligibility. They, like Levin, know that the 1790 Nationality Act was entirely rescinded in 1795 by George Washington, and never again did Congress address natural born citizenship. (A guess is that Landmark Legal depends upon Republican clients, and Mark, understandably, knows he couldn’t withstand the certain retribution from more wealthy and powerful interests. He had two children in college, and is not suicidal).

“But why, at this point, does it matter?”, to quote our next Democrat presidential candidate. Because our framers had every reason to try to protect us from foreign influence affecting the Chief Executive and Commander of our Military. It is from natural law that our framers and founders built a nation of laws, independent of a Monarch. It is a precept of natural law that a child inherits citizenship, allegiance to his society, from his parents, and from investment in the land of his birth. They wrote that the president must have been born to citizen parents, as Congressman John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment explained, “of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.” We might chose to amend that provision, but thus far representatives are depending upon the ignorance of our citizenry. We are not currently a constitutional republic. We are the popular democracy promoted by George Soros, among many who understand and use the power of propaganda and control our media with great skill.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 12:43:39 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: ifinnegan

From Cruz’s own lips: “My Spanish is lousy.”

Not sure what that exactly means in this context:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1678902735001/ted-cruz-on-spanish-debate/#sp=show-clips


41 posted on 07/12/2014 12:52:05 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: ScottinVA

“Ted Cruz, Mike Pence or Scott Walker would be great choices. Not seeing much else out there.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Can we add Ben Carson to that list?


42 posted on 07/12/2014 12:54:09 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Ray76

And he has said that from day one.
Only idiots and open borders shills voted for him.


43 posted on 07/12/2014 12:57:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Innovative

Where, among his family members?

As my grandkids say ... puhleeze.


44 posted on 07/12/2014 12:58:37 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ifinnegan

“Name names for better than Rubio.’

Rick Perry


45 posted on 07/12/2014 12:59:13 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

A lot of people here would condemn Perry the same as Rubio.


46 posted on 07/12/2014 1:12:03 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Innovative

Rubio has no executive experience, no business experience, no military experience, no philosophical concepts with which I agree; other than that, he’s a fine fellow.


47 posted on 07/12/2014 1:15:48 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: Eccl 10:2

“Can we add Ben Carson to that list?”

Yeah...if you are ok with an empty suit with zero experience that doesn’t understand the 2nd Amendment, and believes in “2nd Amendment Zones”.

No thanks.


48 posted on 07/12/2014 1:17:02 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Ray76
The time to create an alternative is now.

By all means. I planted a tree today. In about ten years I expect I'll be getting shade from it.

49 posted on 07/12/2014 1:46:43 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Spaulding

Citizenship aside, I think just about any Republican could easily beat Hillary. But, and this is a crucial but, we must reverse the order of the ticket. That is, the top of the ticket must be from the populist/Tea Party wing of the GOP, and the running mate from the establishment country club wing. Think Reagan-Bush, not Bush-Reagan. That’s the only way you’ll get grass-roots turnout.


50 posted on 07/12/2014 2:11:01 PM PDT by huckfillary
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