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Border Crisis Scrambling the Politics of Immigration Policy
The Washington Post ^ | Saturday, July 12, 2014 | Karen Tumulty and David Nakamura

Posted on 07/12/2014 6:42:37 PM PDT by kristinn

Until now, the politics of immigration have been seen as a no-lose proposition for President Obama and the Democrats. If they could get a comprehensive overhaul passed, they would win. And if Republicans blocked it, the GOP would further alienate crucial Hispanic and moderate voters.

But with the current crisis on the Southwest border, where authorities have apprehended tens of thousands of unaccompanied Central American children since October, that calculus may be shifting.

Republicans and even some Democrats have accused Obama of being insufficiently engaged in a calamity that many say he should have seen coming.

And the president’s own party is deeply divided over what must be done now — particularly on the sensitive question of deporting children who have traveled thousands of miles and turned themselves in to U.S. authorities to escape from the desperate situations they faced in countries such as Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

The emergency has also renewed questions about the administration’s competence, reminiscent of those raised during the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill, last year’s botched rollout of the health-care law and more recent revelations of mismanagement that jeopardized care of patients at veterans hospitals.

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Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Tex.) agreed in an interview: “I would like to see him place greater emphasis on the interests of these children who are refugees from extreme violence and instability in their home countries” instead of “an acceleration of the deportation process at the expense of these children.”

But O’Rourke added that he has been surprised by the anger he has heard toward the refugees from many of his El Paso constituents, who “feel like we can’t take care of everyone, and these children and their families are gaming the system.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; obama
More at the source link.
1 posted on 07/12/2014 6:42:37 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

“But O’Rourke added that he has been surprised by the anger he has heard toward the refugees from many of his El Paso constituents, who “feel like we can’t take care of everyone, and these children and their families are gaming the system.””

We can’t take care of the entire world? Really? Some of these liberals are idiots. Ok, all of them...

And that this came from El Paso constituents - a town full of liberals and entitlement-grabbers, is amazing! They get mad when they see that they may not get theirs if too many others are in the wagon.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 6:48:04 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: kristinn
Scrambling the Politics of Immigration Policy

That was the idea from the very start...and the Washington Post knows it.It's right there on Pages 35-128 of Rules For Radicals.

3 posted on 07/12/2014 6:51:18 PM PDT by SayNoToDems (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: kristinn

An uncorrupt UN would be spending big bucks to help these children get back to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

The real UN will do nothing. These self-made refugees are expendable pawns to them.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 6:53:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SayNoToDems

Did you see the border agent Jeanine Pirro interviewed a few minutes ago? He said we’re releasing MS13 members who admit to multiple murders at home.

Its starting to remind me of Saddam Hussein throwing the doors of the prisons open.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 6:57:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: yorkiemom; SayNoToDems

I went through many expat blogs, the one warning about Honduras crime had a link but it was in Spanish...I did get some links to those talking about life in their Central American County with articles over the past year. Nothing about the children, gangs, or increased heavy crime...mostly pick pockets, opportunist thefts, and some break ins.

I can’t find a real blog article in past year complaining heavily about anything, but I know Panama has had some gang and petty crime increases in past years. Only one woman was ready to leave Honduras...??? Expats seem satisfied living there, but maybe those who aren’t have left.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 6:57:27 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: kristinn

The only reason it’s a “crisis” is because Barry and his commie ‘RATS have convinced their toads in the state controlled “media” to call it a “crisis”.


7 posted on 07/12/2014 7:01:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: kristinn

No money for foreign welfare without spending cuts in domestic welfare.


8 posted on 07/12/2014 7:04:58 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: mrsmith

Bttt


9 posted on 07/12/2014 7:05:08 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Kackikat

Expats live in a bubble of wealth. In my parents country I have 2 maids, a driver, and security. That is something anyone can get used to. God was extra good to non Indian South Americans, but they lost their way and God’s protection.

People with money live like Kings in “emerging economies”, and expats have nothing to compare their current situation to.

Expats are not a valid source to measure a decline in a society.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The answer to this type of “crisis” is to militarize the border and lock it down 100%.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 7:05:30 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: kristinn
"And if Republicans blocked it, the GOP would further alienate crucial Hispanic and moderate voters."

This is crap. Virtually all polls show that "moderate" voters OPPOSE amnesty and open borders.
12 posted on 07/12/2014 7:06:03 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mgist

Evidently, but some of them are normal people who teach in local schools and are not in gated communities etc. I realize the travel companies exaggerate and don’t give accurate info.

I have been doing this research for five years due to looking at retirement places....there has only been a few mentions of certain cities not to live due to crime...it’s the lack of UPSWING in the comments of new crimes or raise in crime levels that concerns me....we are hearing it due to the children on the Border crisis. I hear it here...and I read newspapers in some places.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 7:11:33 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: kristinn
... "Operation Tug at the Heartstrings" is currently underway and being used by the Changers of America. It is very hard to defend a point of view that goes against the "Parental" and "Motherly Instincts" of helping children in distress. This is a very well thought out operation that began at least 4 years ago.

....Once the "Operation Tug at the Heartstrings" campaign gets rolling and the innocent looking poster children are chosen and splashed all over the MSM .... tugging at the heartstrings of a nation comprised of low information voters .... The motherly and fatherly instincts will be activated in the Low Information nation ......

.... Heck ..... To even think of sending these poor Child refugees back to their horrid and violent meat grinder countries of origins will be a certain death sentence for these poor innocent defenseless children .... should be an unthinkable stance by a loving humanitarian person. (At least that is the narrative that will be verbally vomited out of the mouths of every Democrat and Immigration reform activist and supporter.)

... In short .... The Republicans and the Tea Party will be portrayed and DEMONIZED as wanting to literally ... Kill the Children .... and Send them to their DEATH ..... Heck ..... Do the Republicans and Tea Party even have even a tiny loving compassionate bone in their collective evil bodies? .....Good luck on trying to defend against that one folks. This is a tough uphill fight for us all.

14 posted on 07/12/2014 7:11:39 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: kristinn; All

the more and more protests that take place like we saw in Murrieta the more the scales will tip in our favor...


15 posted on 07/12/2014 7:20:23 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: R_Kangel

There is nothing wrong with “pulling at heart strings”. We have to love other people, regardless of where they are from.

The problem is Obama’s false pretense. He lies, and it is another one of his crimes against humanity to destroy many innocent people, as a means to an end.

Guatemala and many orher countries recieve millions of our tax payers money to care for the poor. There is no reason for them to come. There is no work for them.

May God help us all


16 posted on 07/12/2014 7:21:35 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: SayNoToDems

EXCELLENT MUST SEE 6 MINUTE BILL WHITTLE VIDEO!
Bill skillfully skewers the limousine leftist hypocrites on their phony “feel good” posturing on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
Please help this one also go viral! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkN4XiqRnrE


17 posted on 07/12/2014 7:29:45 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: kristinn

This has gone too far. Blacks in inner cities are upset they don’t get the attention these invaders get. Jessie Jackson seems to have placed the interest of blacks over dem politics.


18 posted on 07/12/2014 7:44:13 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: kristinn

19 posted on 07/12/2014 7:53:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

States are getting la mordida in the form of the caretaking of the “kids.” So they are getting bribed not to get incensed enough to actually repel the invasion, which the Constitution gives them the right to do.

So long as America’s views do not rise any higher than bread and circuses, that is what America is going to get.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 7:55:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: umgud
Blacks in inner cities are upset they don’t get the attention these invaders get.

I agree. I don't agree with the methods but they're Americans first and foremost and their problems take precedence over any illegal.
21 posted on 07/12/2014 7:57:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: kristinn

Wait until the Hispanics kids come home with TB or Scabies... See how that goes over... I grew up with Hispanics, family and children are their entire lives for most of them... That is their primary motivation.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 8:00:03 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: mgist
"The problem is Obama’s false pretense. He lies, and it is another one of his crimes against humanity to destroy many innocent people, as a means to an end...."

.... That is why the "Liberal/Socialist" movement is so strong. The Socialist/Communist movement closely mimics what is a natural proclivity in most such as "Caring for the needy and the unfortunate." This is how they are able to sway people and nations. The mimicry even feigns Christianity in many ways especially in the helping the needy part. Taking but a portion of a wealthy persons riches and giving it to the poor and needy. After all it's only fair right?

.... Well the way I look at it ... it's kind of like the difference between giving a donation from the heart to help out a charity .... and that same charity coming to your house and demanding at gunpoint money to pay for their expenses. Both of those scenarios achieve the same end ..... the charity receives money for their cause .... but one is given by freedom and charity .... the other by force.

..... So ... to me ... taking advantage of the final throes of charity left in a country being transformed by a person seeking to install a system that takes by force rather than a free nation that gives by the values of giving from the heart .... is an act that is spawned by "The One" that is the "Master of Deception ... and the "Father of "Lies" .... to achieve something that many of us cannot even imagine. It's literally the difference between the wonderful act of "Making Love" and the act of "Being Raped." It's the same ends .... but one is pure evil.

.... I think it is important for EVERYBODY to understand .... that there are two ways of living in this world ..... ONE is the way of "Giving" .... and the other is the way of "Taking."

.... This nation has lost it's way and has gotten away from it's foundational principles. Unfortunately I believe that this nation is about to wander for a long time until it regains it's foothold on freedom once again.

23 posted on 07/12/2014 8:03:51 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Bribery works at many levels, from the heart and the aorta to the capillaries.

This "federal cash" is our taxpayer money. We are paying for our own invasion!!!

GRRRR!!!!!


24 posted on 07/12/2014 8:24:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: R_Kangel
This nation has lost it's way and has gotten away from it's foundational principles. Unfortunately I believe that this nation is about to wander for a long time until it regains it's foothold on freedom once again.

We are no longer the same nation demographically thanks to mass immigration and the 1965 Immigration Act. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as classified by the USG and by 2043 we will be a majority minority nation. Demography is destiny. We are being colonized by the Third World.

25 posted on 07/12/2014 8:25:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Travis McGee

All of this leftist smoke and mirrors can’t build anything but a sick mediocrity.


26 posted on 07/12/2014 8:26:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kabar

Ultimately, theology is destiny.

A whole lot of the Hispanic influx is nominally Catholic Christian, but only nominally.

It’s frustrating to me, from what I believe to be a “generic Christian” view point, to see it. People are not asking too much out of God. People are asking too LITTLE. And then they build their own unfriendly empires and it just goes all to hell.


27 posted on 07/12/2014 8:28:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The Rat and GOPe elites don’t have to live in these new barrio slums, created when 4 families live in single family homes, etc.


28 posted on 07/12/2014 8:30:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Note the cross and rifles logo of the Brown Berets of Aztlan.

They led the big march, right next to the AMNESTY banner.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 8:32:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Yes, it is very rare to see a liberal actually “sharing the wealth.” Unless it’s somebody else’s wealth. Their own? God forfend!


30 posted on 07/12/2014 8:32:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Travis McGee

This is a scene of people centered pride and it is enmity to God. The devil is giggling his fool “red tights” off at this.

People could get along a lot better with one another if they cared about the Lord first of all. There isn’t even a HINT of theology I see here. It’s basically a repackaged Marxism.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 8:34:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If theology is destiny, then stick a fork in us, we are already done.


32 posted on 07/12/2014 9:02:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

If we don’t choose a different relationship with God, it is our fault not God’s fault.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 9:04:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am not blaming God. I am just observing reality and the decline of America morally, economically, and militarily. There is no coming back.


34 posted on 07/12/2014 9:11:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The way back would be a way of frank miracle.

To declare God incapable of extending the help would be to blaspheme Him.


35 posted on 07/12/2014 9:17:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mgist

“Expats are not a valid source to measure a decline in a society.”

They would still know if there where problems outside their exclusive communities -from newspapers, servants, neighbors, TV, the internet.

If the country was so detrimental to live in that parents would rather send their children on an unaccompanied, thousand mile trip through treacherous territory than have them stay with their family, surely at minimum talk of the problems would be going around.

Jewish parents in Czechoslovakia sent their children on trains to England after Hitler took over. The alternative was the gas chamber. But even these trips were organized by a kind soul in England, funded by the parents and English families, and the children went on a train that wouldn’t get lost.

IMO this invasion is just as orchestrated, but not for good reasons. The plan is to force amnesty and adhere to the Coward-Piven strategy to take down this country.


36 posted on 07/12/2014 9:18:01 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kackikat; SayNoToDems

That was a great idea. I just figured if things were that bad in any of those countries, we’d have heard about it before the invasion -not after.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 9:19:33 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, right.


38 posted on 07/12/2014 9:50:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: yorkiemom

(forgot to include pertinent info about the Jewish Czechoslovakian children - they were going to English families so their parents knew they’d be taken care of. Most importantly, they went to England LEGALLY. The man orchestrating the move got visas for the children. Imagine that!)


39 posted on 07/12/2014 10:03:00 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: R_Kangel

Agreed


40 posted on 07/13/2014 2:13:13 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: Travis McGee

It is not just in the barrios. I live in a small city in California that has been taken over by illegals. Our house is in a nice country club area. We had a rental behind us that was rented by some Mexicans. Next thing I knew I heard construction going on so I looked over the fence. They were adding a room......to a rental! We had a windstorm and part of the fence between us blew down so I went over there to get owner info. There was a curtain up across the door of the formal dining room and a curtain up across the door of the formal living room. They had turned a nice 3 bedroom house into a 6 bedroom flop house.


41 posted on 07/13/2014 6:48:54 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Travis McGee
This "federal cash" is our taxpayer money. We are paying for our own invasion!!!

Everyone gets a taste of mordida- from the beltway bandits in DC to the tinpot dictators who facilitate the invasion and the disease ridden foot soldiers who arrive in shiny new Obama running shoes. EVERYONE, except the American taxpaying citizen bill payers.

42 posted on 07/13/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: kristinn

BO has managed to p*** off his last main group of supporters, the obama phone crowd.

That takes something, alright.


43 posted on 07/13/2014 7:17:14 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: sheana

That’s what they do!


44 posted on 07/13/2014 9:32:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: yorkiemom

I know that Belize City is terrible, and I know there are gangs in all those big cities, and Panama has had a rise in juvenile and gang crime. With that being understood, I don’t think all those children came from those particular cities. I saw where it was advertised in many of the Central American Newspapers to come here and it would be okay. A lot of it is in Spanish.

Here are some of the blogs I looked at:

http://innicanow.com/2012/12/18/a-house-to-write-home-about-san-juan-del-sur-nicaragua/

http://expatlifeinnicaragua.com/

http://lifeofagringoexpatinelsalvador.com/4th-july-2014/

http://vivatropical.com/el-salvador/top-best-cities-for-expats-in-el-salvador/

http://abelizehomeforus.wordpress.com/

http://tacogirl.com/island-life/expat-living-finding-a-way-to-live-and-work-in-belize/

http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/07/04/dutch-expats-prepare-for-showdown-with-costa-rica

http://adullroar.blogspot.com/

http://lagringasblogicito.blogspot.com/search/label/travel%20in%20Honduras#.U8Hlf_ldVbE

http://www.expatarrivals.com/honduras/moving-to-honduras

However, the other Freeper was right when he said that Americans are sheltered and have drivers, maids, and gated communities....but not all of them. There is an abundance of petty theft due to the poverty in those countries, and now that petty theft is going to be here too. So if you research and find something I missed let me know..thanks.


45 posted on 07/13/2014 9:36:36 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: mgist

I wasn’t disagreeing with you, as the Americans have more money and can afford those things including gated communities.

I just think that those larger cities have always had problems....and some worse now. I think we have to know that the petty theft, pick pocketing, and other Central American crimes will be here now on a large scale.

The years of living like a King in those other places is coming to an end, as I have researched the food, housing, and other prices now almost equal to here.


46 posted on 07/13/2014 9:39:33 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Travis McGee

I know. sigh Am still trying to talk hubby into buying a 60 foot or larger motor yacht and moving on to it. So far no dice, so I just spend as much time on the sailboat as I can.


47 posted on 07/13/2014 9:46:08 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

“I know. sigh Am still trying to talk hubby into buying a 60 foot or larger motor yacht and moving on to it. So far no dice, so I just spend as much time on the sailboat as I can.”

We’re escaping California and moving to the USA next march. I can’t wait!


48 posted on 07/13/2014 10:40:58 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: R_Kangel

“....Once the “Operation Tug at the Heartstrings” campaign gets rolling and the innocent looking poster children are chosen and splashed all over the MSM .... tugging at the heartstrings of a nation comprised of low information voters ....”

you have got their real motives down perfectly in calling it “Operation Tug at the Heartstrings.”


49 posted on 07/13/2014 4:02:40 PM PDT by IWONDR
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