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Militarize Our Border? O'Reilly, Here's Your Plan
americanthinker.com ^ | 7/13/2014 | Russ Vaughn

Posted on 07/13/2014 6:32:50 AM PDT by rktman

Bill O’Reilly almost nightly calls for the militarization of our southern border, but he never has any guests to explain how this could be done. So, Bill, since I agree with you, here is a rudimentary plan worked out by someone with a working knowledge of both our military capabilities and the geographical area in question. Mind you, I have no information regarding military training budgets, but as we withdraw from large-scale overseas operations, our leadership should consider applying funds no longer needed for those to the mission of defending our currently defenseless southern border.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; security; uams
Hmmm. Don't know if oreally calls for this almost nightly or not. I gave up on billy boy a long time ago. But, in any case, Mr. Vaughn has some valid points and ideas. So, have at it folks.
1 posted on 07/13/2014 6:32:50 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Turned the border region into a military exercise training area.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 6:35:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: ScottinVA

Turned=Turn


3 posted on 07/13/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: rktman

You can count on BOR to make an abrupt about face right about the time something is going to get done.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 6:38:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ScottinVA

Hmm. I think Jewbacca has been doing some training along the border. Just not what needs to be effective though. ;>}


5 posted on 07/13/2014 6:38:59 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: ScottinVA

Oriley souds like mclame.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 6:41:07 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: rktman

Perry the weakest candidate in 2012 now says “Mr Pres call out the guard!!” the guard is controlled by the governor doesn’t anyone remember the botched response to Katrina by their gov? Bush had to wait on her, so what is Perry waiting for? He can have guard exercises or guard emergency actions. Lets see if he still all hat and no cattle.


7 posted on 07/13/2014 6:42:45 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: rktman

Any number of viable solutions exist. The simple fact is the the President and his party WANT this to go on as they see this as long term benefit to themselves as do a lot of so-called Republicans.


8 posted on 07/13/2014 6:44:58 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

As quickly as their bussing them away, once someone(?) gets there to put a stop to it, there’ll be nobody there.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 6:47:01 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: q_an_a

The problem with calling out the guard or any other government entity is that the illegals are running into their arms now. They know that once they’re on American soil, they go into the system and are here for years at the very least.

We need to stop them before they cross the border and turn them back.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 6:51:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: rktman

To be honest I have never heard O’Reilly calling for us to militarize the borders and I’m pretty sure he is against it as I remember him saying he wants more of a presence there but not to attack illegals but just report it to current border patrol which to me is laughable.


11 posted on 07/13/2014 6:52:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: q_an_a

If Perry is too dumb to know the law of his own state what makes you think there is hope if he is waiting for Obama to do something, when he has the power and authority to act but won’t. Even still, initially I was hopeful when I heard Perry talking tough about sending in the National Guard, but again that means they are unarmed and not able to really do anytrhing but watch and report to Fed officials. Too me that is like sending in troops to battle with both arms tied behind their back and taking away their guns.


12 posted on 07/13/2014 6:55:31 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: rktman
Won't happen.

soetoro is an enemy islamist who instigated this, and views the resulting chaos as a positive for his, and islamism's benefit, to the ultimate detriment of America.

13 posted on 07/13/2014 6:58:15 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rktman

Place a string of Brigade size military bases along the length of the border. Erect high observation towers with the latest personnel detection devices. Use motorized hunter patrols to sweep the area at unscheduled times. Designate an area as a detention compound and place all detainees in confinement NLT one week for processing, and return them to their countries of origin with a bill for expenses. OMG!! That’s really cruel and racist of me isn’t it? I haven’t come up with an idea for the 3K+ miles of the Canadian border or the coastal ones yet, but I’m sure you will.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 6:59:12 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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To: rktman

Call up and deploy National Guard to the borders


15 posted on 07/13/2014 7:04:34 AM PDT by Broker (Any real cops left? Obama is cultural Sunni)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I still think towers every few miles would be very effective. Add to that a squadron of drones with 30 mm M230E1 Chain Guns as used on the Apache as a deterrent and an enforcer to keep those cockroaches out of out country.


16 posted on 07/13/2014 7:10:36 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Broker

Apparently the lyin’ king has to give his okay.?


17 posted on 07/13/2014 7:10:41 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Broker

With orders to shoot to kill or for them to hand out teddy bears, lollipops, water and TB shots?


18 posted on 07/13/2014 7:12:02 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

well a nice camp like sheriff Joe has, but run by the guard might make a few people think staying has little future.


19 posted on 07/13/2014 7:23:30 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: rktman

Or you could use the tactic the Turks used in during the Korean war to keep thieves off their base: erect a fence consisting of a single strand of barbed wire 6” high.

US forces used layers of barbed wire, guard dogs, machine gun posts, mines etc, things still disappeared on post.

When something went missing, Turks marched into the nearest town, found the oldest woman, tied her to a post, called out the entire village to watch, then skinned her alive. Done once, no thievery.

Or you could carpet bomb a one mile strip along the entire US-Mex border on the Mex side with cluster bombs.

Point is that nothing really works until one proves he means business by making an example.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 7:31:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rktman

My understanding is that this problem is in the Rio Grande Valley. It’s not across the whole border. That means Obama needs to mobilize the assets of the federal government to deal with this “invasion” in this one area.
The federal government has a tremendous number of employees. It has a tremendous number of law enforcement employees. Our VA hospital has federal law enforcement. Our Social Security office has federal law enforcement. How many US Marshall’s and deputies do we have?
Obama is incompetent, but he already has the resources to solve this. He just isn’t using them.


21 posted on 07/13/2014 7:36:48 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rktman

What I don’t get is why Fox decided to hire Howard Kurtz as he is an all out liberal but I guess they think he is fair and balanced? I just heard him using the liberal tactic of calling the illegal cockroaches “unaccompanied minors”. Pretty sad when the only network that is supposed to be fair and balanced using liberal-speak terminology


22 posted on 07/13/2014 7:41:41 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Don Corleone

What doesn’t make sense from the idiocy of the so-called Republicans is, if they go along with amnesty, who do they think will ever vote for them, or do they not even care about losing their own jobs?


23 posted on 07/13/2014 7:46:15 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: rktman

First there must be agreement on the objective before potential solutions can be evaluated.

MY “Objectives” are:

Have a secure border and manage an effective LEGAL immigration system.

The solutions for achieving those objectives are very straight forward and start with a fence.

Obama’s objectives are:
The destruction of America through excessive financial burden and an eternally dependent voter base.

So, his solution is to undermine all existing laws and enable the illegal immigration to the maximum extent possible.


24 posted on 07/13/2014 8:23:02 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: q_an_a

The law on who could call out the guard was changed following Katrina.


25 posted on 07/13/2014 8:46:32 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: ScottinVA

You and I both took that oath many years ago to defend this nation against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. It did not, and still doesn’t, specify that the enemy must be military.

The Army fought indians (domestic) and was ready in 1914 to repel the Mexican Army at the border. The only thing they can’t do is civilian law enforcement. People bringing up the Posse Comitatus Act don’t know what they’re talking about.


26 posted on 07/13/2014 9:20:43 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

thanks for you input. A search of web said it’s the governor who is in charge - my bad


27 posted on 07/13/2014 9:32:19 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: q_an_a

What exactly would YOU have the guard to do?
Stop the Feds from taking the illegals into custody?
shoot the feds or illegals?


28 posted on 07/13/2014 9:33:18 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: rktman

The problem is not how to solve the problem. The problem is the deliberate creation of what looks like a problem but is actually a planned invasion. So the problem is the planners and that plan. Until that is solved, any other “solutions” to “problems” will be rapidly thwarted.


29 posted on 07/13/2014 9:58:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: RWGinger

maybe do what ever it is the Gov Big Hair thinks Obami would do. Come on - troops in plain sight make it difficult for folks to cross a border.


30 posted on 07/13/2014 10:51:01 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: q_an_a

’ troops in plain sight make it difficult for folks to cross a border.”
Pay attention. the illegals are running TO authorities.

so let’s say illegals run up to guardsmen> then what? do you think the guardsmen can force them back into mexico?
How?

Sadly that vile piece of crap odumbo knows no Gov,.not Perry or Brewer or Martinez can send their NG and have any authority to do anything.


31 posted on 07/13/2014 10:58:09 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Blue Highway

perhaps you can explain which Texas ( or any state) law supersedes federal law??

A gov can send in the NG for emergencies and this would qualify
BUT
what do you think a NG could do?
Physically force illegals back across?
how? tackle them and push them into the river?

Point a gun at them ?
what?


32 posted on 07/13/2014 11:06:17 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: rktman

Wouldn’t make a huge difference with the current “children’s crusade” assault on our border. What’s the NG going to do, shoot the kids? No, and those who surrendered to them would be passed on to the BP and processed as they are now.

We need a freakin’ WALL, and we need it NOW!


33 posted on 07/13/2014 11:28:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Perhaps there are some scraps in Berlin. I saw it in 1962 right after they started putting it up. Kinda intimidating from the eastern side with the “guard” towers and all. We went on an “accompanied” tour in to the eastern sector through CheckPoint Charlie. Very few cars, very depressing, LOTS of WW II rubble still piled up. And this was 17 years after the end of the war. Commies. Ya gotta NOT love ‘em.


34 posted on 07/13/2014 4:35:20 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Blue Highway
What I don’t get is why Fox decided to hire Howard Kurtz as he is an all out liberal

They don't have a single field correspondent that is conservative as far as I can tell.

35 posted on 07/14/2014 1:13:48 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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