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Border children deserve humane treatment, due process
San Jose Mercury ^ | 07/11/2014

Posted on 07/13/2014 7:43:19 AM PDT by artichokegrower

They're children. Tens of thousands of them, boys and girls, some just toddlers, many under 12 years old, who somehow made it here from the violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.

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San Jose U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren saw a 3-year-old girl last week at a Rio Grande Valley holding facility, essentially a jail, running around in only a diaper. Imagine how desperate her parents must have been to send her north


Zoe are you dumb enough to believe that a 3 year old walked to the USA from Central America alone? Her parents came with her. They are in the holding cell with her. The media is prevented from access to these holding facilities and documenting how many adults are being held also.

1 posted on 07/13/2014 7:43:19 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
who somehow made it here from the violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.

I'm thinking that the writer took a wrong turn at El Paso and ended up in Chicago.

2 posted on 07/13/2014 7:45:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: artichokegrower

Airfare from El Paso.


3 posted on 07/13/2014 7:45:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: artichokegrower

And what do Americans deserve? Why isn’t it Mexico’s problem to provide these children with everything they need?


4 posted on 07/13/2014 7:45:58 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: artichokegrower

“violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden”

I thought they were talking about Chicago.


5 posted on 07/13/2014 7:47:16 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: artichokegrower

Humane treatment is a Mickey Dee’s happy meal a shot of antibiotics and a plane ticket straight back to where they came from.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 7:48:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

the mothers of southside Chicago probably welcome their kids getting an airplane rider to safety in Honduras


7 posted on 07/13/2014 7:49:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: artichokegrower

That must have taken every fiber of this “writers” being to pretend to have concern for a child. Growing the nanny state takes a lot of acting ability.


8 posted on 07/13/2014 7:49:34 AM PDT by albie
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To: artichokegrower

“Due process”

Who uses that kind of language? Lawyers. Maybe we’re starting to see that the man behind the curtain on this issue is a lawyer.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 7:49:41 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: artichokegrower

Humane treatment...yes, of course, we’re Americans, it’s what we do.
Due process?...the only one how deserves due process is POTUS in impeachment proceedings for violating the Take Care Clause of the US Constitution.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 7:50:23 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: artichokegrower
Imagine how desperate her parents must have been to send her north

The Left also says: "The Palestinians are so desperate that they become suicide bombers."

This is part their Sympathy for the Devil vocabulary.

11 posted on 07/13/2014 7:50:31 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: artichokegrower

Border jumping children don’t deserve squat in my view. They need to be sent back and any expenses incurred for them need to be withheld from any foreign aid we give their countries, which we should stop anyways.


12 posted on 07/13/2014 7:51:03 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Paladin2

Border children deserve humane treatment ,yes they do because they Sold Their Souls to The Devil


13 posted on 07/13/2014 7:51:07 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: artichokegrower

“violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden”

To paraphrase Charles Krauthammer, when hasn’t Central American been violent, poverty stricken etc. ??


14 posted on 07/13/2014 7:51:30 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: artichokegrower

We have more than enough laws on the books to enforce the border, but the one percenters don’t want that.


15 posted on 07/13/2014 7:51:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: artichokegrower

Illegal (children) isn’t a race, it’s a crime.


16 posted on 07/13/2014 7:52:39 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: artichokegrower

The plan was to “send in the children” so just like not being able to critisize any black person especially the community organizer and cheif because of thier color and bieng labled a racist, who would turn away the “children” This was deliberately planned to overwhelm the system, dirty the waters in all of the cities more than they are now, increase the voter rolls for the rats, allow drug gangs to do business more freely poisoning our youth and open the door for terroist attacks on American civilains


17 posted on 07/13/2014 7:54:34 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: artichokegrower

We should start calling them “Obama’s manufactured border-crisis children” every time we mention them, the same way Randy Weaver’s name was always preceded with the phrase “white-separatist.”


18 posted on 07/13/2014 7:54:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: artichokegrower
"Border children deserve humane treatment, due process"

Yes, I agree completely.....as long as "due process" means an immediate trip to the border and expulsion from this country because they have entered this country illegally.

19 posted on 07/13/2014 7:56:20 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: artichokegrower

Before these little itty bitty loving children get sent out to this monsterous country, why not include a two day Disneyland ticket....every kid deserves to visit Disneyland!


20 posted on 07/13/2014 7:56:39 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: artichokegrower
"Children" my ass.

Rep. Mike McCaul: Halt Flow of Illegal Immigrants to Protect Kids

McCaul visited a facility earlier this month in McAllen, Texas, where a group of immigrants was being held. He described the facility as a "refugee camp in the United States." Many of the illegal immigrants are teenage boys, he said.

"About 80 percent, though, of these so-called children are about 16 to 17 years old, most male. That, from a security standpoint, greatly concerns me," he said. "What are they going to be doing in the United States of America with no education? They can't speak English. That's the threat that I think a lot of people are concerned about."


Just last night Jeanine Pirro interviewed a border patrol agent who said we're knowingly turning admitted MS13 murderers loose on American soil.
21 posted on 07/13/2014 7:57:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: molson209

Sure they do. Back in Guatemala or Honduras or Mexico. NOT HERE.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 7:58:04 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA ..IMPEACH, REMOVE, AND IMPRISON. WHAT THE HECK ARE WE WAITING FOR - CHRISTMAS?)
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To: ronnie raygun

Yep. Well said.


23 posted on 07/13/2014 7:59:24 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA ..IMPEACH, REMOVE, AND IMPRISON. WHAT THE HECK ARE WE WAITING FOR - CHRISTMAS?)
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To: artichokegrower

They deserve a one-way bus ticket back to wherever they came from. And they are NOT children, so spare me THAT tired argument!


24 posted on 07/13/2014 8:00:11 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Biggirl

WHERE’S THE CITIZEN REVOLT you keep talking about?


25 posted on 07/13/2014 8:01:48 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA ..IMPEACH, REMOVE, AND IMPRISON. WHAT THE HECK ARE WE WAITING FOR - CHRISTMAS?)
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To: artichokegrower

How about we allow those who want to get away from “violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden” hellholes to come here but only if we can send an equal number of those who create “violent, gang-filled, homicide-ridden” hellholes (Democrats) here to the countries these people are fleeing from.

We can start by shipping Reid, Pelosi, Emanuel, the Clintons, and the Obamas south. They can do for Central and South America what they have done for Detroit and Chicago.


26 posted on 07/13/2014 8:01:59 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Agreed, and we can even throw in a teddy bear if it cheers them up. And then: GOODBYE!


27 posted on 07/13/2014 8:05:21 AM PDT by jocon307
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29 posted on 07/13/2014 8:10:31 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: artichokegrower

Due process for these criminal trespassers is a return ticket on the first bus, train or airplane heading back to their home country.

And even that is more than they deserve.

As has often been said, the US Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.

Compared to the dunderhead politicians and bureaucrats of today the Founders were absolute geniuses.


30 posted on 07/13/2014 8:13:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: cripplecreek

“Just last night Jeanine Pirro interviewed a border patrol agent who said we’re knowingly turning admitted MS13 murderers loose on American soil.”

Irony of ironies is that American blacks voted in the man who is now unleashing MS-13 gang members into their neighborhoods. There were many news stories starting about 2009 describing how when MS-13 takes over an area blacks are forced to flee. Chickens meet roost!


31 posted on 07/13/2014 8:15:44 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

The San Jose Mercury and other media outlets need to look what’s happening in Los Angeles. The most popular radio and television outlets broadcast in Spanish. Nobody reads the newspaper let alone one written in English. In five or so years the San Jose Mercury newspaper will be a distant memory.


32 posted on 07/13/2014 8:16:06 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: All

These children “somehow” made it to the border....

WTH do you mean “somehow”?????
They were brought to the border by ADULTS for money furnished under the table by Obama in his effort to cause more disruption and chaos in America...

These freakin’ idiot liberals make it sound like a 3 year old crossed the whole of Mexico on their own...

Send them ALL back the same way they got here...


33 posted on 07/13/2014 8:23:19 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: cripplecreek
A good point. The media says children; hoping to bring up pictures of starving youngsters like we are always encouraged to send money to support. But if that were really the case we would be seeing those heart-rending pictures and we just aren't they can't find them.

It reminds me of the account in the Bible of in II Kings 2 where the ‘children’ mock Elisha and are then eaten by a bear. The liberal theologians love to have a heyday complaining that God punished innocent little children.

34 posted on 07/13/2014 8:26:09 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: artichokegrower

Be humane .... SEND THEM back to their home country where they know the language...have relatives etc...


35 posted on 07/13/2014 8:29:36 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Detroit journalist Charlie LeDuff has been to the border in the last week or so and he just said this on twitter and he’s well to the left of FR.

Charlie LeDuff @Charlieleduff 9m

Nearly half the kids picked up @ border are WITH a parent. They could be sent home 2day but are not.. This from Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX)


36 posted on 07/13/2014 8:33:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: artichokegrower

A 3 year old walking 1000 miles? Zoe, if you believed that she walked all the way from her house to ILLEGALLY enter the US in just a diaper, you could challenge Shelia Jackson Lee as the dumbest congressperson in history.


37 posted on 07/13/2014 8:39:44 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: artichokegrower
Please due process them out of my country and back to theirs.

Sorry about the spelling.

38 posted on 07/13/2014 8:40:49 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: artichokegrower

“In five or so years the San Jose Mercury newspaper will be a distant memory.”

I hope that you are correct.


39 posted on 07/13/2014 8:48:40 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: artichokegrower

I’ll go along with humane treatment, for the young and old, but due process is a subjective term. In this case it we should pass an emergency act that allows us to put these illegals in camps where they can be well treated and taken care of, and then returned to their home countries where they belong.


40 posted on 07/13/2014 9:03:39 AM PDT by pallis
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San Jose Mercury is such a LIB/LaRaza rag. The so-called “children” are mainly teens-and-up degenerates. Who cares what their ages are...they all deserve to be deported immediately. They are illegal alien invaders. Aren’t we supposed to have these things called BORDERS? the countries have them...even worthless slum mexico.


41 posted on 07/13/2014 9:24:47 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: artichokegrower

These “Border Children” Deserve nothing except a Free trip back to the country they were born in.

I have enough troubles with an economy that’s been destroyed on purpose a foriegn policy that places all of us in danger and a Congress,Both houses that couldn’t give a damned about the citizens or our Constitution.


42 posted on 07/13/2014 9:54:47 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: hal ogen

I’m in complete agreement with you, which is why I think we need internment camps right at our border, and the furthest illegals should be allowed to come into our country is into those camps, where they can be humanely treated and deported back to their home countries.


43 posted on 07/13/2014 10:02:55 AM PDT by pallis
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To: artichokegrower

These little innocent children are caring diseases like T.B, scabbies,lice,and on and on these are being sent to us and our children will be infected..

My daughter goes to Dallas every Saturday to take clothes and shoes to the homeless ..Cant feed them unless they get food coupons which her and other people buy and give to these people..she does have people help in her but my point is we have homeless that go hungry every day and they are citizens of this country.so we have to feed Obamas kids which btw are very few compared to the teens and adult criminals coming in with these children..

FEED AND CLOTH OUR FAMILYS AND SEND THESE LITTLE DISEASE INFESTED KIDS HOME..


44 posted on 07/13/2014 10:09:18 AM PDT by PLD
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To: artichokegrower
They "deserve" nothing except barbed wire and 3 hots and a cot until they are returned to their homelands as soon as is possible.

This is a well planned invasion of the United States. They are being used as pawns by our enemies - which include Mexico, the Central American countries, cartels, gangs, and our own felonious Administration which organized, planned, and is likely funding the operation. These pawns need to be taken off the board and then we need to go after the Queen and King.

Naturally, the taxpayers get stuck for all the bills on both sides. The entire operation should be prosecuted under RICO statutes and likely would be if we had a DOJ that wasn't in on the massive conspiracy.

45 posted on 07/13/2014 10:22:28 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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I was led to believe they are MS-13.

46 posted on 07/13/2014 10:42:02 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: artichokegrower

Border children deserve to be put on buses or on freighters and deposited somewhere far south of the Rio Grande.


47 posted on 07/13/2014 10:46:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: artichokegrower

to do the humane thing would be to return the children to their parents in Central America. They should be raised with parents not by US foster parents or groups. Many of the girls are destined to be syphoned off into the sex trade. The boys are already being recruited by the Mexican gangs. This is a travesty.


48 posted on 07/13/2014 12:08:08 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Humane treatment is a Mickey Dee’s happy meal a shot of antibiotics and a plane ticket straight back to where they came from.

Coincidentally, that is also due process.

49 posted on 07/13/2014 3:50:44 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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