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What Does This Announced Caliphate Mean?
Townhall.com ^ | July 13, 2014 | Michael Youssef

Posted on 07/13/2014 10:52:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

The ISIS, which has conquered vast portions of Syria and Iraq, has now declared itself to be the new Islamic caliphate. There has been no caliphate (an Islamic state led by a “successor” to Muhammad) since 1916, after the end of more than 400 years of Turk-enforced rule over a resentful but helpless Arab world.

Since then, most Sunni Muslims have informally recognized the legitimate successor of the prophet Muhammad to be the king of Saudi Arabia, whom they call the “Guardian of the Two Holy Places.”

But in recent years, many rival factions have risen across the Islamic world, each claiming to be the one to bring about the legitimate succession.

The Muslim Brotherhood, supported by Turkey and Qatar, is one faction.

Al-Qaeda, and particularly Osama bin Laden at one time, had also hoped to be recognized as such.

But now, a far more blood-thirsty group has upstaged those and many other Islamic factions. What was first known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), but lately just calls itself the Islamic State, has declared itself to be the rightful caliphate and is now commanding the allegiance of all other smaller factions.

Although the West, and America in particular, have every reason to fear that declaration, other Arab Sunni countries have much more at stake. That’s to say nothing of the Shiites in Iran, Iraq, and Bahrain, who believe they are the legitimate successors through the prophet’s lineage of Ali and Hussein.

Those in the West might be inclined to believe that such Islamic division is good for the West. However, those divisions can only spell deep pain for Christians in the Arab world, and ultimately for Israel, the U.S., and Europe.

The way each faction proves its superiority over each other is by demonstrating how much blood it can spill against “soft” targets. Therefore, they behead docile Christians, and when they find the opportunity, they go for the bigger targets, like Muslims whom they consider to be apostates or rivals.

As Al-Qaeda demonstrated on September 11, 2001, they will pick on an easy target - like the lax U.S. airport security- to kill thousands of unsuspecting Americans.

In Egypt, when the Muslim Brotherhood felt threatened by the powerful military, they went after Christian churches, schools, stores, and homes—burnings hundreds and otherwise destroying hundreds more. The strategy worked for them, as they received wide support from the Islamic world (thankfully, today, the Brotherhood is growing weaker due to rejection from the Egyptian public).

And today, the capitulation of the U.S. administration by withdrawing all its troops from Iraq has resulted in the current mayhem against Christians and other Muslims.

Now some ask, “What would American troops have accomplished?”

A great deal. Put a weak boy in an empty classroom with a bully and the weak boy will be in deep trouble. But put a teacher in that classroom to observe the interaction and suddenly the bully will find a way to behave himself.

That being said, I am in no way advocating military intervention in Iraq; it is entirely too late for that. So what is the answer?

For starters, President Obama needs to seek out someone like President al-Sisi of Egypt, who has successfully stood up to Islamist bullies in the region. Mr. Obama needs to eat some humble pie and apologize to al-Sisi for supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and objecting to his legitimacy.

President al-Sisi has proved that he’s a match for Islamist bullies. And as a former Field Marshal and head of military intelligence, he can steer the U.S. and the West to the right strategy in dealing with this disastrous situation.


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1 posted on 07/13/2014 10:52:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The author does not get it.

Obama wants the Caliphate in place. It’s why his presidency was manufactured.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 10:54:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Kaslin

Uh, Bammy is NOT going to get to be the twelfth Imam?


3 posted on 07/13/2014 10:54:58 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

It means a place to drop bombs.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Kaslin

It means Obama and Wookie celebrate with cake!


5 posted on 07/13/2014 10:57:06 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Kaslin
Gonna be a tough tightrope walk for rulers of "Moderate" Islamic states.

How can they remove the obvious threat to their power without enraging the Muslim populace within their own countries? They'll publicly support or at least tolerate ISIS while covertly working against it, of course.

The Shieks got US and NATO forces to smack down Saddam, will they try the same?

Desert Storm II

6 posted on 07/13/2014 11:02:34 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: ZOOKER

If ISIS is as crazy and strong as they seem to be. The moderate islamic states are going to fall, one after the other. Are we seeing the pre-cursor to Armageddon?


7 posted on 07/13/2014 11:05:22 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Kaslin
The hidden name is ISIL.

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant

Levant ===>> Eastern Mediterranean counties
from Turkey to Egypt. This includes Israel

Iraq (Babylon) and the Levant.
It is the re-creation of the Ancient Assyrian Empire.

The Assyrian Empire is the same as the
Eastern half of the Roman Empire.

These were the first terrorists,
three to five millennia ago.

The Anti-Christ is called "the Assyrian"
( Isaiah, Micah, Ezekiel ) .

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Levant
8 posted on 07/13/2014 11:06:49 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Kaslin
Calipahte = SLAVES - WAR ON WOMEN - ALL THOSE THINGS THAT CONSERVATIVES ARE BLAMED FOR...yeah - I'm sure nothing could go wrong...


9 posted on 07/13/2014 11:07:10 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: Kaslin

It means it makes Ubama look like the mythical Moderate Moose Limb.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 11:07:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: BCW

Millions of Europeans ended up in that situation and worse.


11 posted on 07/13/2014 11:09:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kaslin
Sexual Abuse of Girls/Women by Moslems in the UK - JAN 2013; https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/214970/sexual-offending-overview-jan-2013.pdf

From the Home Office -

12 posted on 07/13/2014 11:09:49 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Obama wants the Caliphate in place. It’s why his presidency was manufactured.

If you take a look at the 2008 elections, I think there's a lot more manufacturing going on than most realize; one thing that was manufactured was precedent for ignoring the Natural Born Citizen clause (according to current interpretations, McCain isn't a NBC; indeed, I think the elites would have been quite satisfied to put up even that much of an incremental shift).

13 posted on 07/13/2014 11:10:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: All

Got to remember that Islam is from the devil himself.

Allah = Satan.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 11:12:38 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: FreedomStar3028

....”Are we seeing the pre-cursor to Armageddon?”.....

Might be what it will look like...cold be a trial run. My suggestion is for people to keep an eye on Russia, currently Putin....moreso then the Islamists. Russia’s alighnment with whatever Islamic Power is in place will be one of two wars....both will have an Islamic Element.


15 posted on 07/13/2014 11:20:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
The Assyrian Empire is the same as the Eastern half of the Roman Empire.

Not really. During the 700 years or so the Romans were dominant in the Middle East, they controlled Mesopotamia for only very brief periods.

They actually lost control of the other piece, Syria, for a longer total period of time to the Parthians, Palmyreans and Persians.

16 posted on 07/13/2014 12:35:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: BCW

Just running the livestock through the sales ring.

No different than an auction house in Texas or Kansas, except that in Texas and Kansas, the stock is treated better.

A fact that has apparently never been absorbed by so many females who have either married into Muslim families, or entered the consciousness of the so-called “Feminists” in the Western world, is that under Islam, human females are less valuable than horses or even sheep. And they certainly do not enjoy the fruits of Paradise, as they ARE the fruits consumed by the Noble Islamic Gentlemen who have arrived in Paradise.

The Caliphate is a chimera, a false specter held up to lure in the lustful and the eternal malcontents, allowing themselves to imagine that NOW, they get control over things, and can work it to their own benefit.

The false Prophet Mohammed Ali was a crazy old sand hermit, suffering from some form of schizophrenic paranoia. Explains a lot about the words of the Koran.

Theodore John “Ted” Kaczynski, also known as the “Unabomber,” also wrote his “Manifesto”, but it was altogether more consistent and reasoned than the Koran.

But almost as flawed in arguing from its first premises, most of which are patently false.

Should the Unabomber’s Manifesto be adopted as a religious text?


17 posted on 07/13/2014 12:45:23 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: ZOOKER

The Saudis are scared to death right now. I’m sure the have plans to make sure all of their wealth is in a British band along with plans to get the hell out on a moment’s notice. They wanted Saddam gone. Now they’re having second thoughts.

The real problem for the rest of the world is ISIS taking control of ALL of the oil in the area. None of the oil rich states want it but none of them can do anything about it.


18 posted on 07/13/2014 12:45:33 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
uri The Assyrian Empire is the same as the Eastern half of the Roman Empire.

errr.. no

The Neo-Assyrian Empire was split between the Romans and the Iranis

19 posted on 07/13/2014 1:53:49 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaĀ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadĀ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Remember that there are two parts to the AntiChrist, and yes this means that Armagedden isn’t that far away. There will be the calling away of the Christians when Jesus comes as a thief in the night. Then the armies of Heaven will be behind Jesus when he splits the eastern sky ‘and every eye will behold him’ as he returns to protect Israel. It says he will come when ‘all nations draw up against Israel’....pretty close now, imho.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 2:41:19 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Kaslin

What is he holding, a protractor?


21 posted on 07/13/2014 2:41:46 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Kackikat

But is not the “rapture” really a 18-19th centuries teaching. Rather the Christians are going to have to suffer for the Lord Jesus before He, the King of Kings returns.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 4:30:52 PM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: The Toll

It does make targeting easier.

Warm up a couple Trident 2s.


23 posted on 07/13/2014 5:59:26 PM PDT by Kodos the Executioner (.. the revolution is successful, but survival depends upon drastic measures..")
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To: Cronos
U-2012>The Assyrian Empire is the same as the Eastern half of the Roman Empire.

errr.. no

Sorry to see how superficial is your analysis.

Assyria was a major Mesopotamian Semitic kingdom, and often
empire, of the Ancient Near East, existing as an independent state
for a period of approximately nineteen centuries from c. 2500 BC
to 605 BC, spanning the Early Bronze Age through to the late Iron
Age. For a further thirteen centuries, from the end of the 7th century
BC to the mid-7th century AD, it survived as a geo-political entity,
for the most part ruled by foreign powers, although a number of small
Neo-Assyrian states arose at different times throughout this period.


24 posted on 07/13/2014 6:31:27 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Sherman Logan
If I had meant PRECISELY the same, I would have said so.

This is not a grammar exercise,
but a thought process for reflection.

The time is very short.

Tuesday is the 17th of Tammuz.

Israel is surrounded by all nations who have come against her.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

25 posted on 07/13/2014 6:45:39 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: BCW

Two camels for the one on the right!


26 posted on 07/13/2014 7:07:27 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe true...looking more and more so everyday..


27 posted on 07/13/2014 7:49:34 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Biggirl

Although the word Rapture is not in the Bible, it is clear that there will be a catching away with Jesus prior to the Battle at Armageddon. Revelation ch 16: 15, 16.


28 posted on 07/13/2014 8:10:07 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Kackikat

Well, first there will be all sorts of calamities. We haven’t seen the waters turn to blood, or 1/3rd of the population die yet. I figure this could be the ezekiel war. Armageddon has to be at least 7 years off. More likely a lot longer than that.


29 posted on 07/13/2014 8:28:42 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Wrong. My post was factual -- your post is not

The Assyrian kingdom prior to 1000 BC was different from that of 700 BC -- the latter is called the "neo-Assyrian Empire"

Secondly, your statement "The Assyrian Empire is the same as the Eastern half of the Roman Empire." is factually wrong -- look at the maps above, the Eastern Roman Empire only had the western portion of the previous Assyrian Empire. The Iranis had the eastern portion

30 posted on 07/14/2014 12:46:18 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaĀ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadĀ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Since you now say you didn’t mean the Roman and Assyrian Empire were PRECISELY the same, in what linguistic, historical, cultural or political sense do you consider them the same?

This “Levant” has also been ruled at times by the Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Arab, Crusader, Fatimid and Ottoman Empires, among others.

What is the specific connection between ISIS/ISIL/IS and the Romans and Assyrians?

BTW, the difference between the meaning of ISIS and ISIL is minimal. Historically, Greater Syria referred to the area now controlled by Jordan, Israel, Palestine and Lebanon as well as Syria. Levant and Syria were very nearly synonymous.

Also, what is the relevance of the Assyrians? They never destroyed Jerusalem or its temple. That was done by the Babylonians, the empire that succeeded Syria.


31 posted on 07/14/2014 3:09:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Except the Assyrian areas are under Iraqi government control and are populated mostly by Shia. Also, I’ve seen nothing of ISIS’s claim to that area. The only maps I’ve seen of their proposed or actual state do not include Babylon and other ancient Assyrian areas.

When Assad falls Qatar and Saudi Arabia’s goal will be achieved. Funding for ISIS will stop and it will get ground up by the Syrian successor -which won’t be ISIS, the Kurds, Iraq and Jordan.


32 posted on 07/14/2014 3:31:29 AM PDT by Justa
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
I found a map which supports your ISIS - ancient Assyrian comparison. It's from the latter empire.


33 posted on 07/14/2014 4:17:53 AM PDT by Justa
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Also, the furthest extent of the Roman Empire includes Assyria.


34 posted on 07/14/2014 4:22:13 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Kaslin

It means the announcer is mouthing Bravado that has no basis in fact


35 posted on 07/14/2014 4:25:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. GOPc.+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: The Toll

Correction...Bomb...

At least two...

That would take care of a big portion of the problem...Or at least define it even clearer for some who are slightly thicker skull’d than the rest...;-)

But this just makes me a really mean, hated and racist person...


36 posted on 07/14/2014 5:17:32 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Kaslin
What Does This Announced Caliphate Mean?

beyond my paygrade to figger out.

What did he SAY?

THAT always seems to be enlightening!

37 posted on 07/14/2014 5:28:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert

There are NO tanks in Baghdad!


38 posted on 07/14/2014 5:40:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan
Also, what is the relevance of the Assyrians? They never destroyed Jerusalem or its temple. That was done by the Babylonians, the empire that succeeded Syria.

Google (Assyrians Jerusalem)
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
39 posted on 07/14/2014 8:55:09 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

OK. I googled.

Most all the initial hits were for the Assyrian siege of Jerusalem during the reign of Hezekiah.

They failed, with a large army destroyed.

Now why do you think an unsuccessful siege of the city is more relevant to Bible prophecy or to Israel today than the successful sieges of the city and destruction of its temples by the Babylonians and Romans?


40 posted on 07/14/2014 9:00:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Biggirl

And you don’t think the Christians are suffering now? The type of suffering depends on your geographic location.


41 posted on 07/14/2014 11:36:47 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Kackikat

Yes, it is going on now, but it will be ramped up. Believers will have to suffer for the Lord until the King of Kings returns.


42 posted on 07/14/2014 12:27:26 PM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Justa
The Roman Empire controlled Assyria and Mesopotamia only for a short period -- during the time of Emperor Trajan. Hadrian abandoned these as overstretch.

One of my ideas for an alternate history is with Hadrian not taking over, but some more vigorous leader and then that guy pushing forward, taking over the Parthian Empire, spreading all around the Caspian and Black Seas and putting the Dnieper-Dvina rivers as the frontier of the Empire

If they had done this, they would have crushed the Germanic peoples before they even came to the Roman Empire -- in the 2nd century the Germanics were not very much differentiated into the Eastern, Western and Northern Germanics -- their languages were still comprehensible.

The Slavs in the 2nd century were still a united bunch -- the South, West and East Slavs were still one grouping, speaking a common language living in the Pripet marshes or northern Ukraine.

With a border on the Dnieper-Dvina line and along the Caspian and Black sea

If they had done this then the Germanic invasion of the 3rd century would never have occured and the Huns, Avars, Cumans etc. would have been headed off -- with early warnings.

43 posted on 07/15/2014 5:38:02 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaĀ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadĀ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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