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Friends and family remember Isiah Haggins Jr. (16-year old killed while robbing store)
WDTN Dayton ^ | 12 July 14 | Beairshelle Edmé

Posted on 07/13/2014 3:15:03 PM PDT by Drew68

DAYTON, Ohio (WDTN) — Family and friends gathered outside of a Dayton shopping plaza to remember a teen shot in an apparent robbery attempt.

Isiah Haggins Jr., 16, was shot multiple times by the owner of the Step-N-Style clothing store in the Northwest Shopping Plaza on West Siebenthaler Avenue on June 30. Police said Haggins, along with another suspect, walked into the store armed with guns in a reported robbery attempt.

Since Haggins’ death was declared a homicide, the Sisters of the Precious Blood held a vigil for him Saturday afternoon.

People gathered Saturday outside of the store to pray for Haggins and his family; his mother says the loss is tough.

“He was a young child that made a bad decision that cost him his life, But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.

Police said the Step-N-Style owner was acting self defensive when he shot Haggins Junior; another suspect remains on the loose following the attempted robbery at the urban clothing store.

Talbott recognizes that her son’s actions were wrong but his death is not something she can let go.

“Do not let this just fly away as if it was just a murder that may have been justified. My son was shot four times. A 16-year-old kid was shot four times.”

Talbott says her son simply fell in with the wrong crowd.

Her family agrees noting that they had a feeling some of the guys he hung around were up to no good.

Now as they remember their loved, they urge all parents to trust your instincts and save your children from what happened in this case.

“And I want every parent to understand,you can say it, because I’ve said it before, ‘not my kid, my child would never do anything like that’ You can say it all day but once that child walks outside your door, you’re no longer around him, you do not known what that child will do,” said one attendee of the vigil.

The second suspect who was with Haggins Jr. fled and is still on the loose.

Police are reviewing surveillance video from the store and the shopping plaza as part of their investigation.


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“He was a young child that made a bad decision that cost him his life, But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16.

I remember being 16 running around committing all those violent armed robberies. What fun! Oh, to be young again!

Talbott says her son simply fell in with the wrong crowd.

No, mamma. You're son was the wrong crowd.

The second suspect who was with Haggins Jr. fled and is still on the loose.

Naturally, nobody's snitchin'.

Sigh... Another "child" victim of gun violence.


1 posted on 07/13/2014 3:15:03 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Where’d the Skittles go?


2 posted on 07/13/2014 3:16:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Drew68

LOL, the North Face, those must be backpacking tattoos.


3 posted on 07/13/2014 3:17:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Drew68

did he have a budding rap career?


4 posted on 07/13/2014 3:19:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Drew68
“Do not let this just fly away as if it was just a murder that may have been justified. My son was shot four times. A 16-year-old kid was shot four times.”

Sometimes that is how many it takes.

5 posted on 07/13/2014 3:19:36 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Drew68

Lot of tats for a minor....


6 posted on 07/13/2014 3:19:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Starstruck

3 didn’t do the trick.


7 posted on 07/13/2014 3:20:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Drew68
I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16.

Armed robbery is not one of them.

8 posted on 07/13/2014 3:21:10 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Drew68

” He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott. ‘


This really made me laugh. She must be an idiot.

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9 posted on 07/13/2014 3:21:46 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Drew68

What a tragedy.

He WASN’T turning his life around!
He WASN’T an aspiring rap star!

What’s wrong with kids these days?


10 posted on 07/13/2014 3:21:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Drew68; All
‘“He was a young child that made a bad decision that cost him his life, But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.’

This in a nutshell, which is where it belongs, is the Blackamoor mentality summed up. It's not our fault if there are bad consequences to our actions. Thugging don't mean nothing. Just YMB’s (young black men) being boys. The entire culture of non-responsibility is summed up in these stupid banalities.

11 posted on 07/13/2014 3:22:07 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Drew68
I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16.

No doubt about it but somehow I managed to avoid armed robbery.
12 posted on 07/13/2014 3:22:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Drew68
I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives

Not really. Crossing the street? Riding public buses? Going to public school. All dangerous....

13 posted on 07/13/2014 3:22:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Drew68

“A 16-year-old kid was shot four times.”

I thought a 16 year old criminal was shot dead?


14 posted on 07/13/2014 3:22:32 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Drew68

It is truly a shame to lose a 16 year old this way. In a perfect world he would have had good role models and strived to be more than a successful armed robber. And I’m not being facetious.


15 posted on 07/13/2014 3:23:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mears; PGR88

Are we supposed to think that armed robbery is just a normal thing for a kid to do?


16 posted on 07/13/2014 3:23:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Drew68
I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.

Well, maybe if you include riding my bike against traffic. But at 16, I was trying to earn an extra buck, and started to buy my own anti-perspirant. (I picked BAN roll-on, unscented).
17 posted on 07/13/2014 3:24:12 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Drew68
“He was a young child that made a bad decision that cost him his life, But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Hagginsmother Candace Talbott
So what was Ms. Talbott’s act of “trying to be a teenage (sic)”? Having an illegitimate child and raising him in a fatherless household?

No, not everyone is so evil by their teens as to have “done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16”, especially running around in a gang and robbing stores, sorry.
18 posted on 07/13/2014 3:24:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Drew68

“I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16.”

Yeah! In my Mom’s ‘63 Riviera, that had every engine option my Dad could buy! I shouldn’t have been allowed to drive that car! But my Dad figured the bucket seats would put a damp on serious sexual activity. Wrong!


19 posted on 07/13/2014 3:24:31 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Drew68
I was reserving judgement until I saw the pic and I'm glad I did. Damned if the kid didn't turn out not to be Scandanavian descent like I suspected.

Poor guy. Cut down in the prime of his life while innocently robbing a store.

Just think of all the children he will never father with several women he will never marry. All the drugs he'll remove from the streets by smoking them or inhaling them up his nose. He'll never know the satisfaction that comes with climbing the corporate ladder as a career criminal.

What a waste.

20 posted on 07/13/2014 3:24:38 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Drew68

How did this woman know he was her son? They have different last names.


21 posted on 07/13/2014 3:24:56 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Drew68

I will give credit for one thing, as a Junior, the father was willing to take credit (or blame) for how things turned out.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 3:25:04 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: GeronL

Evidently so. The mother, who does not have the same last name as her own child, declared that in spite of his obvious activities, “(h)e was not a bad kid”. And her judgment is obviously unskewed and unbiased.


23 posted on 07/13/2014 3:25:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Drew68

I am sorry he was so stupid but youths can kill just like older people. He should have known better.


24 posted on 07/13/2014 3:25:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Drew68

What hit me was two different names — broken home or no father?

Haggins Jr
Talbott — mother


25 posted on 07/13/2014 3:26:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Drew68

Who was the corrupt DA (or whomever) that declared this death a “homicide”, I’d like to know?


26 posted on 07/13/2014 3:27:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Drew68

I don’t think it’s inconsistent to feel sympathy for the robber’s family, sorrow for the wasted life, and approval for the store owner’s legitimate, self defense actions. I don’t see the family justifying the robber’s actions so much as grieving over the loss. Sure. They think he was a good kid who simply fell into the wrong crowd. They don’t know, but he might have even been the instigator/leader. What they claim about not knowing and/or being responsible for everything teenagers choose to do once they leave home strikes me as being realistic, too.


27 posted on 07/13/2014 3:27:19 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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Ghetto mom logic.


28 posted on 07/13/2014 3:27:33 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Drew68
I did a lot of stuff as a teen that could've gotten me killed.

But I managed to avoid doing anything that might get me shot by someone acting in self defense.

29 posted on 07/13/2014 3:27:39 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Starstruck
If all these remarks quoted are real, and adults made them, it seems there WERE some people around the kid that are now kicking themselves in the ass for being negligent.

It ain't easy being a parent and it aint easy being an observant adult that sees trouble and WANTS to say something .. but ...


Yesterday my son dropped by with my 2 yr old grandson and in the course of conversation and watching Blake play, I remarked about something to my son regarding (what I consider) a failure on my part with him and that I saw the same attitude with him and my grandson.

I didn't want to say it because I knew it might alienate me from my son, but I ALSO knew ... i HAD to say it.

I don't think I alienated my son, but he didn't like what I said ... and I'm glad I said it.

30 posted on 07/13/2014 3:28:45 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: robowombat
This in a nutshell, which is where it belongs, is the Blackamoor mentality summed up. It's not our fault if there are bad consequences to our actions. Thugging don't mean nothing. Just YMB’s (young black men) being boys. The entire culture of non-responsibility is summed up in these stupid banalities.

QFT

And then there's the complacent media, painting this kid like he's some kind of victim. What about the store owner? He didn't go to work that morning planning on shooting anyone.

31 posted on 07/13/2014 3:29:04 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
“Do not let this just fly away as if it was just a murder that may have been justified. My son was shot four times. A 16-year-old kid was shot four times.”

***

That 16-year-old kid was committing a crime. When you're committing a crime, odds are you are going to be killed or injured. I'd say this “child” wasn't taught that fact by his parents.

By the way, where is the father?

32 posted on 07/13/2014 3:29:28 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Drew68
Police said Haggins, along with another suspect, walked into the store armed with guns in a reported robbery attempt.

Since Haggins’ death was declared a homicide

How do these two go together? Shot during an armed robbery? Looks like justice.

33 posted on 07/13/2014 3:29:58 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Drew68
He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.

Nothing more heart rending than a mother grieving for a wayward child.

I wonder what Isaiah Haggin, Sr. had to say.

Probably too distraught to speak to the media.

I don't blame him.

34 posted on 07/13/2014 3:30:00 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Drew68

Candace, where is Isiah’s father?


35 posted on 07/13/2014 3:30:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Can NOO Canoe ?


36 posted on 07/13/2014 3:30:19 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But he was only 16. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done something that could cost us our lives at the age of 16. He was not a bad kid. He was just a child trying to be a teenage,” said Haggins’ mother Candace Talbott.

This makes it alright for her son to arm himself and attempt to rob a store and possibly use that weapon to kill
Yes we have all done some stupid things but use a gun to hold up a business? He was a child trying to be a teenager, ok I forgive him! duh! No excuses you live by the sword you die by the sword


37 posted on 07/13/2014 3:30:39 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Drew68

Another of Obama’s pretend sons. No doubt, he was on the verge of turning his life around.


38 posted on 07/13/2014 3:30:40 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cripplecreek

I grew up n a small town. If our parents did not know what kids did, others would have told them. To give you a hint on how small it was, a relative did paperwork for a divorce. Before she could get to her parents to tell them, someone beat her by telling them first.


39 posted on 07/13/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: GeronL

How many kids did he have?


40 posted on 07/13/2014 3:31:43 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Drew68

I want to know what is up with the category of “homicide”?

Is that still valid? Did they change it?

And what is with Catholics lately getting so liberal that nuns are publicly out there supporting a thug?


41 posted on 07/13/2014 3:31:54 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Olog-hai
Who was the corrupt DA (or whomever) that declared this death a “homicide”, I’d like to know?

Technically speaking, it was a homicide. Anytime someone kills another, it's homicide. Homicide has many categories; accidental, negligent, and in this case, justifiable. Homicide does not necessarily mean "murder" which this certainly does not appear to be.

42 posted on 07/13/2014 3:31:58 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
another suspect remains on the loose following the attempted robbery at the urban clothing store.

When they catch this guy and charge him with murder we will get to hear how he too fell in with the wrong crowd.

43 posted on 07/13/2014 3:32:13 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: robowombat
This in a nutshell, which is where it belongs, is the Blackamoor mentality summed up. It's not our fault if there are bad consequences to our actions. Thugging don't mean nothing. Just YMB’s (young black men) being boys. The entire culture of non-responsibility is summed up in these stupid banalities.

The thug's mom is just as big a problem as the thug. She's the one who instilled these values into him.

44 posted on 07/13/2014 3:32:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Drew68

Where was the Baby Daddy in this kid’s life, Momma Genius?

You obviously did a great job alone raising a typical 16 year old.


45 posted on 07/13/2014 3:32:48 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Get rid of "birthright citizenship" Out of room . . . no mas)
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To: Drew68

“Since Haggins’ death was declared a homicide,...”

Homocide by whom? The store owner who was defending himself and his store? Is he going to be charged?


46 posted on 07/13/2014 3:33:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Drew68

BuhBye! The world is a better place now. The truth hurts.


47 posted on 07/13/2014 3:33:45 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Olog-hai
“Homicide” is legalese for death by other than natural causes. The police called it “self defense” so I would think it falls under the category of justifiable homicide.
48 posted on 07/13/2014 3:34:26 PM PDT by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: Drew68

Got what he wanted.
And they are complaining?
Yeesh.


49 posted on 07/13/2014 3:34:44 PM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Olog-hai

There’s no doubt it was a homicide. In this case it was a JUSTIFIED homicide.


50 posted on 07/13/2014 3:35:11 PM PDT by meatloaf
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