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Crist says state should review gun laws
AP ^ | July 13, 2014 | MICHAEL J. MISHAK

Posted on 07/13/2014 4:07:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 07/13/2014 4:07:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 4:09:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Right, you effeminate self serving creep . . . let’s just abolish all self defense laws

Disgusting


3 posted on 07/13/2014 4:10:41 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Get rid of "birthright citizenship" Out of room . . . no mas)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What’s he smoking? The instigator got a fatal bullet wound, which he earned.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 4:11:28 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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Welcome to the dark side of the farce, Mr Crist
5 posted on 07/13/2014 4:11:44 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Crist is appearing more and more desperate.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 4:14:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never let the truth get in the way of good propaganda.


7 posted on 07/13/2014 4:16:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No there’s something wrong with you


8 posted on 07/13/2014 4:16:29 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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‘Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Charlie Crist...’

Maybe his freedoms should be reviewed.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 4:17:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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> 1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

And what is wrong with racially profiling someone who looks out of place in a neighborhood where there has been an increase in burglarize espeially when he matches the profile of a particular type that is well inn to engage in said type of behavior? That same type of “discriminatory” behavior keeps police offices alive everyday when they avoid bad situations by making snap decisions about a particular type of person they’ve had bad encounters with before. It’s call experience and the PC crowd don’t like it because it’s based on truth something that liars can’t stand.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 4:21:58 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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> 1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

And what is wrong with racially profiling someone who looks out of place in a neighborhood where there has been an increase in burglaries especially when he matches the profile of a particular type that is well known to engage in said type of behavior? That same type of “discriminatory” behavior keeps police offices alive everyday when they avoid bad situations by making snap decisions about a particular type of person they’ve had bad encounters with before. It’s call experience and the PC crowd don’t like it because it’s based on truth; something that liars can’t stand.


11 posted on 07/13/2014 4:23:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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Trayvon Martin photo: George Zimmerman  Trayvon Martin lynching 0_zpsb1499272.jpg
12 posted on 07/13/2014 4:24:04 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Let him know the facts and how you feel about what he has said.

His Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/charliecrist

Email him at
charlie.crist@myflorida.com

Or fax him at
tel# 850 487 0801

Or tweet the twit on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/CharlieCrist


13 posted on 07/13/2014 4:25:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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“Crist is appearing more and more desperate.”

Well I don’t know why, RCP has him at +2.0 in their polling average. The way Scott has run things, I think Crist has a good chance of being governor.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 4:27:16 PM PDT by vette6387
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Charlie you are useless. You are a lawyer. The US Justice system is not about right an wrong as much which side gives the best argument that a jury of peers makes a decision on. My decision on you, Charlie, is you don’t have the moxie or the class to be a Governor of the State of Florida. Goobernatorial would be more apropro.
Freegards
LEX


15 posted on 07/13/2014 4:27:20 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Orangeman panders again !!!


16 posted on 07/13/2014 4:34:53 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just a little more corrupt, self-serving dishonesty from the Left.


17 posted on 07/13/2014 4:36:36 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Problem is Rick Scott ordered the prosecution of Zimmerman...so Scott is not much better on 2d Amendment

Looks like Third Party Conservative is my vote


18 posted on 07/13/2014 4:38:43 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (They are Illegal Aliens...not immigrants)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I hope something very bad happens to people who push this nonsense. And no I don’t feel bad about that. It’s karma.


19 posted on 07/13/2014 4:42:05 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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Crist is trying to nail down the anti-Zimmermann vote, which must be the majority in FL now.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 4:44:18 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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