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[Israeli] Police: Suspects planned Palestinian teen's death in advance, burned him alive
Haarerz ^ | Monday, July 14, 2014 | Nir Hasson

Posted on 07/14/2014 8:03:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler

Court lifts gag order on grisly murder of Palestinian teen, reveals suspects' desire to avenge murder of 3 Jewish teens; victim's cellphone found in one suspect's home.

The suspects in the murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir two weeks ago planned the abduction in advanced, purchasing gasoline and other material, before snatching the 16-year-old off the streets of East Jerusalem and burning him alive – it was revealed on Monday, after the gag order on the incident was partially lifted.

According to a statement issued by the Jerusalem District Police on Monday, an investigation has revealed that three of the six people arrested at the outset are the main suspects in the murder. Two of the three had attacked Musa Zalum, 9, also from Shoafat, the day before the murder, and had fled. Zalum was lightly wounded in the neck.

The investigation also revealed that on the night of the kidnapping and murder, before they went to Shoafat, the suspects tried to kidnap another youth in Wadi Joz, but failed. In Shoafat, they drove for about 22 minutes before spotting Abu Khdeir.

The gag order on the names and identifying details of the suspects remains in force.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; palestinian; stih; stisraelhamas
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One thing that makes Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a great leader in Israel is that he believes in the RULE OF LAW and will apply it equally to Israelis that commit terrorism as much as to Palestinians that do. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made it very clear, in public, that he will GO AFTER ISRAELI TERRORISTS just as quickly as any other terrorists!

He's made that quite clear for the "Price Tag" Jewish Terrorists, too!

1 posted on 07/14/2014 8:03:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

The perps regardless deserve to fry.


2 posted on 07/14/2014 8:11:46 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Star Traveler

15 and 16 years old? Execute them. They cannot be redeemed


3 posted on 07/14/2014 8:11:59 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Star Traveler

It seems to be the case that all Palestinians are complicit in supporting the terrorist Hamas and Hezbollah regimes, especially since mosques are almost always used to store weaponry. The Israeli government should therefore unabashedly step up its bombing campaign; just as the only way to rid yourself of a bedbug extermination in a thorough spraying or burning of the infested areas, the same is true of ridding Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank of terrorism.


4 posted on 07/14/2014 8:12:24 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m still skeptical and/or surprised that this “retaliation” wasn’t done by the Palis themselves in order to frame the Israelis as the bad guys.


5 posted on 07/14/2014 8:14:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Star Traveler

Quite the contrast when compared to Palestinians dancing in the streets when the news was reported that the 3 missing Israeli teens had been murdered. They treated the murderers like heroes.


6 posted on 07/14/2014 8:15:24 AM PDT by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: montag813; traderrob6

You do know that Israel does not have the death penalty? The one exception that happened was Adolph Eichmann on May 31, 1962.

Quoting from Wikipedia ...

In 1954 Israel abolished the penalty during peacetime with the exception of convictions of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and crimes against the Jewish people.

Only one person has been civilly executed in the history of the State of Israel – Adolf Eichmann, who was hanged in 1962 after he was convicted in 1961 of participation in Nazi war crimes relating to the Holocaust.

The only other execution to take place in Israel was that of Meir Tobianski, an Israeli soldier in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War who was falsely accused of treason and executed by firing squad after being court martialed and found guilty.

Others, including Nazi criminal John Demjanjuk, have been sentenced to death but won appeals to overturn the sentence.


7 posted on 07/14/2014 8:20:13 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: MrB

It’s kinda hard to refute it when you have the victim’s cell phone with you ... :-) ...


8 posted on 07/14/2014 8:21:27 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, I’m not refuting the situation.

Just saying that I’m surprised. From the outset, I really figured it was like those gay/racist hate crimes we see here in the US - staged by the victim group.


9 posted on 07/14/2014 8:24:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Star Traveler

They deserve to be executed. Netanyahu doesn’t give special favors and privileges to any one ethnic group, unlike our fearless leader.


10 posted on 07/14/2014 8:31:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: MrB

There are ISRAELI TERRORISTS as we’ve seen in the news in the past, especially those “Price Tag” operatives. Fortunately, there are not as many Israelis in that category as Arabs.


11 posted on 07/14/2014 8:35:17 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Objective Scrutator; tx_eggman

Sane peoples will weed out the murderers among themselves.

Israel is sane.

We in the US are sane, excepting our insane cult-worship of acting, music, and sports celebrities (not mentioning any names *cough*whitebronco*cough*

There seems to be no sanity among Arab peoples in the middle-east.


12 posted on 07/14/2014 8:35:34 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: SpinnerWebb

“..There seems to be no sanity among Arab peoples in the middle-east....”

Egypt might be the exception there. The military stepped up and threw out the radical Brotherhood.


13 posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Star Traveler

When you act no better than your enemies, you deserve no better than them, either. Hang them.


14 posted on 07/14/2014 9:12:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: MrB

Based on what? The Israelis themselves are investigating this. The Israelis deal with a lot so here is a case where some kids went off the deep end. Glad Israel is gtting to the bottom of it.


15 posted on 07/14/2014 9:24:34 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Star Traveler

Israel will handle this as it deems proper. Sitting here, watching the world under attack by Islam I really don’t give a damn why, or how, a Muslim dies. I don’t care about ‘humanely’ stomping on cockroaches either. Any way you get’em is ok by me. Don’t start none- won’t be none.


16 posted on 07/14/2014 9:32:24 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

That’s not the view of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or a majority of law-abiding Israeli citizens ...

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Mohammad’s family say the teen was abducted by right-wing Israeli Jews seeking revenge for the murder of three Israeli teens kidnapped last month in the West Bank.

In a statement, Netanyahu’s office said he had spoken with the teenager’s father, Hussein Abukhdair, to offer his condolences and express his outrage over the “abhorrent” murder a day after the security forces confirmed arresting six Jewish extremists on suspicion of involvement.

“I would like to express my outrage and that of the citizens of Israel over the reprehensible murder of your son,” Netanyahu told him.

“We acted immediately to apprehend the murderers. We will bring them to trial and they will be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law,” he said.

“We denounce all brutal behavior. The murder of your son is abhorrent and cannot be countenanced by any human being.”

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/07/07/Netanyahu-calls-father-of-slain-Palestinian-teen-.html

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Netanyahu to Abu Khdeir family: We’ll bring Mohammed’s killers to justice

‘There is no place for such murderers in our society,’ Netanyahu says after security officials arrest a number of far-right Jews for role in kidnapping, murder of Arab teen Abu Khdeir.

“I wish to send my condolences to the family of the teen and promise them that we will find those behind this horrific crime and bring them to justice. There is no place for such murders in our society,” the prime minister said.

Visiting the families of the three Israeli teens, Netanyahu said he does not “differentiate between terror and terror.” He promised to act firmly in the face incitement, and added that “I condemn calls of ‘death to Arabs’ just like I condemn calls of ‘death to Jews… This is a sensitive time and I urge everyone to act responsibly.”


17 posted on 07/14/2014 9:37:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Missed link for last quote ...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4538655,00.html


18 posted on 07/14/2014 9:39:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ClearBlueSky

+1


19 posted on 07/14/2014 9:43:37 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Objective Scrutator

This is a horrible story, but... yes, I agree the entire Palestinian population is complicit in their attempts to exterminate all Jews. I have to say, I’m surprised it took this long for some of the Jews to crack and start fighting back at the street level. I don’t approve of them burning some random kid alive, but I have to say... really... what did they EXPECT?


20 posted on 07/14/2014 9:58:46 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: I want the USA back

“-—unlike our FECKLESS leader.” Must have been a typo but I got it fixed.


21 posted on 07/14/2014 10:19:48 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Star Traveler

Rule of Law doesn’t mean a thing without God. It’s his laws first. Law without God becomes an instrument of tyranny. Look at Islam and Sharia. It’s as godless as it can get. Some say it’s fine to stone women, others that it’s a mistranslation. They have Fatwas covering raping little boys and fatwas for using prostitute-wives for an hour or so. People say Sharia is harsh. It’s harsh because it is godless.


22 posted on 07/14/2014 11:57:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

We’re not setting up a theocracy either in the USA or Israel ... :-) ...

The “Rule of Law” that we’re talking about here is Political and not theocratic.


23 posted on 07/14/2014 12:03:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Objective Scrutator

“just as the only way to rid yourself of a bedbug extermination”

Another poster wrote here years ago that this will only end after we have killed a certain number of muslims. The thing is, we don’t get to decide what that number is; they do.


24 posted on 07/14/2014 12:18:22 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

“Don’t start none- won’t be none.”

They done started it. Question is, will we fight back?


25 posted on 07/14/2014 12:20:55 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Toadman

yes, a big difference between how israel holds its criminals to account vs palestinians makes them heroes


26 posted on 07/14/2014 12:57:43 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (liberal logic: Sarah Palin is not a real woman but "Chelsea" Manning is...)
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27 posted on 07/14/2014 1:00:47 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: MrB

There are so many fake hate crimes, that one becomes worn out, and skeptical. Also, most people who are murdered, are killed by a close relative, (this is true of all societies), so there is suspicion of that, as we saw in this case. But of course there are also real lynchings and hate crimes.

If the accused are guilty as charged, then they also planned, but failed, to kill a little boy of 9. They are beyond hope.


28 posted on 07/14/2014 5:31:20 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: traderrob6
The perps regardless deserve to fry.

An eye for an eye.

See how they like what they dished out.

29 posted on 07/14/2014 6:22:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Star Traveler

Nonsense. Nothing in America’s Founding was purely political. The American Rule of Law was a outgrowth of American faith in God, Christian faith. Read Black’s law guide and you’ll see that God clearly was involved in the evolution of British common law as well.


30 posted on 07/14/2014 7:06:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Sorry to disappoint you, but we’re still not a theocracy and neither is Israel. Israel protects all religious groups ... from Christians to Judaism and Islam along with their respective religious sites.

The USA, likewise, protects all religious groups in their right to freely practice their religious beliefs ... from Christians to Judaism and Islam, and a whole host of other religions!

And in all that and all those various religions ... the rule of law still applies here and there in Israel and across the various religious boundaries and choices of beliefs. And not a single person has to even believe in God or be required to do so to participate in the government or administer the various functions of government or to vote for representatives of the people.


31 posted on 07/14/2014 7:22:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ClearBlueSky

.....”Sitting here, watching the world under attack by Islam I really don’t give a damn why, or how, a Muslim dies. I don’t care about ‘humanely’ stomping on cockroaches either. Any way you get’em is ok by me”.......

Easy to relate to your comment......I reached my limit of tolerance and sympathy as they paraded their dead, and not so dead as dead, before the world as a tool of defense. Killing their own, and putting them in harms way without blinking an eye in order to gain the worlds sympathy.

I no longer squirm at their photos and realize it’s part of what they stage rather than mourn.


32 posted on 07/14/2014 7:27:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: Star Traveler

I didn’t say they would, I said they should.


33 posted on 07/14/2014 8:12:50 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
The perps regardless deserve to fry.


Agreed.

I would like to see Winnie “burning tire necklace” Mandela fry next to them.

The left is very selective in it's outrage when it comes to who gets BBQed and who lights the match

34 posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:55 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Star Traveler

Israeli terrorists... blah blah... price tag.... blah blah...


35 posted on 07/14/2014 11:55:42 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Sitting here, watching the world under attack by Islam I really don’t give a damn why, or how, a Muslim dies.

That's a horrible, un-Christian thing to say.

I'm sure there are Muslims who feel exactly the same way about Christians.

Does Jesus Christ harbor such indiscriminate attitudes? I think not.

We as Christians shouldn't exhibit the same blind hatred which we decry when coming from our savage, extremist adversaries.

On the contrary, as hard as it is to do, we are challenged to embrace a higher standard, one which includes loving our enemies.

IMHO, the vast majority of all people want to live in peace. Even most Muslims. But even if that's not true, Christians must always strive to take the higher road, as described in teachings such as Christ's Sermon on the Mount.

Many of Christ's teachings on love are "hard", and it's so very easy to hate.

36 posted on 07/15/2014 12:25:21 AM PDT by sargon
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To: Star Traveler

No disappointment. America never was meant to be a theocracy. Perhaps, we’re speaking past each other. Anyone familiar with America’s Founding knows that it as their Christian character that gave us religious liberty and the rule of law. Lose that Christian character and you lose the rule of law. That’s my only point.

Keep in mind that NK and Cuba have Rule of Law. It’s nothing like ours. Why?


37 posted on 07/15/2014 4:38:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah there are just SOOO MANY Israeli “terrorists” out there.

Do I really need a sarcasm tag on this?


38 posted on 07/15/2014 5:30:43 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Star Traveler

If these individuals are guilty of this barbaric crime then they should be executed.


39 posted on 07/15/2014 11:58:06 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

They’ll be convicted of the crime, but having said that ... there is not a death penalty in Israel.


40 posted on 07/15/2014 12:00:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Okay. But that does not affect my opinion that they should be executed.
41 posted on 07/15/2014 12:03:19 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Star Traveler
One thing that makes Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a great leader in Israel is that he believes in the RULE OF LAW and will apply it equally to Israelis that commit terrorism as much as to Palestinians that do. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made it very clear, in public, that he will GO AFTER ISRAELI TERRORISTS just as quickly as any other terrorists!

He's made that quite clear for the "Price Tag" Jewish Terrorists, too!

Amen to that!

In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I am strongly on the side of the Israelis. But, as Prime Minister Netanyahu noted recently, murder is murder--whether it is the murder of a Jew or the murder of a Palestinian.

42 posted on 07/15/2014 12:41:18 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: sargon

“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.”

I am guessing that the “sword” really means the sword of love and understanding.


43 posted on 07/15/2014 3:59:28 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Star Traveler

The surest way to legitimize Hamas terror against Israeli civilians (old men, women and children) and encourage more of it is for Israel to not sternly punish these Israeli terrorists.


44 posted on 07/15/2014 5:35:31 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is very even-handed that way and insists that the Rule of Law applies to everyone. That’s what makes a great leader.


45 posted on 07/15/2014 5:44:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I like him. I would not want to have to go to bed every night knowing a billion lunatics world-wide would LOVE to slice my head off, and my mothers, dads, children and siblings.

He loves his country and is a brave man as his military history well documents.


46 posted on 07/15/2014 6:38:12 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Star Traveler

I like him. I would not want to have to go to bed every night knowing a billion lunatics world-wide would LOVE to slice my head off, and my mothers, dads, children and siblings.

He loves his country and is a brave man as his military history well documents.


47 posted on 07/15/2014 6:42:11 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: sargon

How many burned alive on 9_11 as planned? How about the burned torsos of our soldiers hanging from that bridge? You try to love these enemies gone if you like. Pick a Muslim hellhole and fly there- Live The Dream! I want them ALL eradicated. Call me whatever you like. Christ didn`t preach suicide. Even He stepped on the serpent. If I had my way there would be a bubbling ring of napalm around Israel. This world could not co exist with the Black Plague or Nazism-it can`t with Islam because Islam will allow nothing except capitulation. Cemeteries are the most “peaceful” places there are.Life and Islam are not compatible. History and the news proves that. If Christians are willing martyrs Christ`s teachings die with us leaving Islam triumphant. Never! We need another_final_Crusade to wipe Islam from humankind permanently. Think what you like of me. Daniel Pearl thought as you do.


48 posted on 07/15/2014 7:09:13 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Star Traveler

Two wrongs don’t make a right...


49 posted on 07/15/2014 7:37:36 PM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

There’s a difference between the actual terrorist operatives and people who do criminal acts - as compared to - all civilians who live in the same area or country, or look the same.

No Christian opposes someone being held accountable for a criminal act or terrorist operation - but that same Christian DOES OPPOSE killing all people because they live in proximity to a terrorist or criminal, or look like him.

And here we see that Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu does NOT do the latter, but apply the SAME RULE OF LAW to all. He, and Israel, are to be commended for this!


50 posted on 07/15/2014 7:53:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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