Skip to comments.Ukrainian plane shot down in Luhansk region, missile probably launched from Russia
Posted on 07/14/2014 2:12:25 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
KYIV, July 14 /Ukrinform/. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has confirmed reports of a Ukrainian An-26 plane downed in Luhansk region, and suspects that a missile could probably be launched from Russian territory, the press service of the Ukrainian president has reported.
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For the 4th time today, NO, IT WASN’T LAUNCHED FROM RUSSIA...
It was launched, most likely, from a BUK-M1, a heavy AA AFV, one of four the rebels got when they overran the Heavy Anti-air regiment in Donetsk last month.
The video of the shootdown clearly shows the missile maneuvering above the plane, then coming down to strike it. It wasn’t flying at 6,500 meters, more like 4-6,000 FEET, as it was about to airdrop supplies to a cut-off and surrounded unit.
Donetsk militia takes control of Ukrainian anti-air installation
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I have been talking about these for two weeks.
Yesterday the Ukraines killed a couple people on the lands of Russia proper.
Perhaps turn about is fair play after all.
Also, don’t forget that the rebels got both a “Mandat”, and “Kolchuga passive sensor” system from “Topas” factory in Donetsk, when they took it over a few weeks ago.
That’s just smoke and mirrors propaganda you are using to hide the Russian criminal acts. The Ukrainian aircraft was aloft at 21,500 feet, well beyond the range of any shoulder-fired SAM or other SAM captured by insurgents. The Ukrainian aircraft could only have been shot down at that altitude by a air-to-air intercept missile fired from a Russian fighter aircraft or by a large surface-to-air-missile (SAM) operated by the Russian Ground Forces inside Russia or inside the Ukraine.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?? 3-5,000 feet, AT BEST.
Please explain to the class the dynamics of trying to airdrop a supply pallet into a 300-meter area from 21,500ft. (This oughtta be good!)
(Yeah, WE could do it, but not the Ukrainians, and certainly not from an AN-26!)
“Yesterday the Ukraines killed a couple people on the lands of Russia proper.”
Ukraine says their forces had nothing to do with the incident. What evidence is there to indicate the incident was not caused by the Russian insurgents firing sort rounds across the border from Russia into the Ukraine? It wouldn’t be the first time the Russians were caught staging a fake propaganda incident to falsely claim a provocation to invade the Ukraine.
Sounds like a real act of war
or so says Russia, which is so unbiased
“DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?? 3-5,000 feet, AT BEST.”
A Ukrainian military transport aircraft has been shot down in the east, amid fighting with pro-Russian separatist rebels, Ukrainian officials say. They say the An-26 plane was hit at an altitude of 6,500m (21,325ft).
“Ukraine says their forces had nothing to do with the incident”
The KEY words here being “Their forces”...
Russia is saying that the shelling came from either a Right Sector unit, or a National Guard Unit, both of which were attacking the border post, at the time.
Kiev doesn’t acknowledge the several Right Sector Militias operating in conjunction with Ukrainian Units to be “their forces”, and do not report their casualties.
Nor do they report National guard casualties.
There is Kiev propaganda, and there is the video’d reality, as we keep seeing over and over again. The many vids of the incident tell the truth of it.
PS- The only reason Kiev is acknowledging this incident, at all, is because the video evidence means they cannot deny the loss. Again, this has happened over and over.
Russians employed by Russian intelligence and GRU services are invading the Ukraine by the hundreds or thousands with Russian tanks, AFV, artillery, munitions, and more with impunity from the Russian Government, and they are capturing, torturing, and/or killing Ukrainian civilians and military personnel by the hundreds; and then you have the gall to claim an anonymous shelling, possibly by Russian combatants, killing one person and injuring two other people just inside the Russian border where Russians are shooting into the Ukraine with GRAD artillery rockets and artillery shells is supposed to somehow serve as provocation for killing even more Ukrainians in the Ukraine. Stop invading the Ukraine from Russia, NOW.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?? 3-5,000 feet, AT BEST.
“There is Kiev propaganda, and there is the videod reality, as we keep seeing over and over again. The many vids of the incident tell the truth of it.”
Yes, there is “the videod reality”, and the “the videod reality” clearly shows the aircraft had already fallen a considerable distance and yet was still above about 18,000 feet as the video started. Your comments are therefore blatant lies and false propaganda.
Lol.. Yes, I understand that Truth are lies, and ignorance is strength in Not-a-Nazi naziland.
Again, explain to the class how to do an Airdrop from that altitude to a 300-meter target?
“Lol.. Yes, I understand that Truth are lies, and ignorance is strength in Not-a-Nazi naziland.”
Yes, your false propaganda is no different than the false propaganda used by the NAZIs such as Hitler and Goebbels and by the Soviets such as Stalin.
“Again, explain to the class how to do an Airdrop from that altitude to a 300-meter target?”
You are using the false logic of a strawman argument which has no relevance whatsoever to the video of the Ukrainian aircraft being shot down. When the viewer looks at the vdeo posted on the BBC website, the Ukrainian aircraft has already been struck by a missile and is falling out of the sky when the video clip begins. Behing the falling aircraft is a vapor and smoke trail from the burning aircraft.
The vapor and smoke trail lead back into the Cirrus clouds seen in the video. Cirrus clouds are high altitude clouds composed of ice crystals due to the extreme cold at that high altitude in the stratosphere. So, there is visual proof beyond all possible doubt that the aircraft was burning as it fell from the same general high altitude as the Cirrus clouds, i.e. about 21,500 feet as reported in the news. Even towards the end of the video clip we can see the aircraft flare into more of a blazing torch as it falls out of the stratosphere and into the more oxygen rich troposphere at about 12,000 to 10,000 feet.
So, we’ve seen enough of your false allegations and attempts to disseminate more of your ugly false propaganda. You are inventing lies which have no place in this forum.
And the plane was piloted by Mother Teresa, who was just Air-dropping Elvis and the Band in to entertain Muhatma Ghandi, right?
“And the plane was piloted by Mother Teresa, who was just Air-dropping Elvis and the Band in to entertain Muhatma Ghandi, right?”
Face up to it, you got caught red-handed by the video evidence in another of your egregious lies on behalf of the Russian criminals. Your inappropriate mockery simply cements the fact of your dishonorable conduct.
YOU are doing what you always do, deny the facts in evidence, because it doesn’t meet the approved Kiev propaganda.
PS- some kind of a large explosion reported on the East Bank in Dnepro tonight...
“YOU are doing what you always do, deny the facts in evidence, because it doesnt meet the approved Kiev propaganda.”
This “deny the facts” is precisely what you have just done by denying the aircraft was at high altitude, yet we can all see with our own eyes the aircraft was at the general high altitude of the Cirrus clouds when it was falling out of the sky in the video. Cirrus clouds do not exist at the low altitudes you lied about. So, take your lies, false propaganda, false innuendo, and mockery scumbag routine somewhere else, because we’re not impressed with your act.
This thing is known as “The Three Fingers of Death” (this one is a newer model with a third “finger” added) for an extremely agile missile which is very hard to outmaneuver even in a fighter jet.
Here is a Hollywood version of it’s operation: