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Guardsman kills 2 people, self in northern Utah
WTHR.COM ^ | 14 JULY 2014 | ANNIE KNOX - AP

Posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - An Army National Guardsman left a suicide note in his northern Utah home before killing a college student and one other person early Monday, then fatally shooting himself at another home, authorities said.

Jared Tolman, 23, wrote that he was sorry, and that what he was about to do was selfish, said Logan Police Lt. Rod Peterson.

He is reported to have sent a series of unanswered text messages to Mackenzie Madden before he kicked down the door of her apartment two blocks from Utah State University shortly after midnight.

He then fired an assault rifle multiple times at Madden and a 25-year-old man, both people he knew, police said.

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1 posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
People's emotions are nothing to fool with, treat with anything less than respect or underestimate.

YOUNG people, especially young women, treat men's emotions as cavalierly as THEY say men treat women.

Works both ways, doesn't it dearie???

2 posted on 07/14/2014 8:47:43 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Any pictures of the “assault rifle” yet?

Interesting they say he turned “the gun” on himself, and then say all three shootings were the same weapon. Is it hard to shoot yourself with an assault rifle?


3 posted on 07/14/2014 8:48:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cloudmountain

You’re right, she totally deserved to be killed.


5 posted on 07/14/2014 8:51:24 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: cloudmountain
you stupid arse....blaming the dead people again....

this murder AGAIN by a me, me, me arrogant creep who can only think of one thing and that is that he is going to show what a big man he is....

killing two young people and you condone it....pathetic..

in the old days of Free Republic, we didn't have these blame the victims first mentality.....FR is hardly recognizable anymore....its just disgusting...

6 posted on 07/14/2014 8:52:00 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cloudmountain

People’s emotions are nothing to fool with, treat with anything less than respect or underestimate.
YOUNG people, especially young women, treat men’s emotions as cavalierly as THEY say men treat women.

Works both ways, doesn’t it dearie???
..............................................

Who needs reporting when the world has you to fill in the narrative?
You are a deeply disturbed individual.


7 posted on 07/14/2014 8:53:57 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: xjcsa

You fixed an absurd remark. Thanks.


8 posted on 07/14/2014 8:54:25 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: cloudmountain

FRiend, that kind of thinking supports the gangbanger’s excuse, “He dissed me, so I shot him.”


9 posted on 07/14/2014 8:57:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: cloudmountain

Some people don’t want to be harassed endlessly. If you don’t like someone, you don’t like him. You shouldn’t have to die for not liking him/her. That’s such a horrid thing to say. This dude was obviously obsessed and couldn’t handle not getting what he wanted. That’s the problem with today’s culture.


10 posted on 07/14/2014 8:57:46 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (The more helpless the victim, the more hideous the assault.)
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To: cloudmountain

Wow that’s a lot of assumptions your are making in favor of a murderer. Where in that article does it say she was stringing him along?

Maybe the guy was a psycho stalker or violent ex boyfriend that she was avoiding. He did murder two people after all.


11 posted on 07/14/2014 8:58:06 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: cloudmountain

His emotions were no more played with than that of your run of the mill thug who shoot people in the streets of Chicago or New Orleans.


12 posted on 07/14/2014 9:00:31 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: cherry
FR is hardly recognizable anymore....its just disgusting..

So why do you stick around? Or do you get your jollies vilifying those who disagree with you? You must enjoy BLASTING those who dare to say something that doesn't fit your style of thinking.

Don't bother to answer. I don't care what you think.

13 posted on 07/14/2014 9:02:52 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: CaptainK; cloudmountain
So Cloud, what did you say when he looked like this?


14 posted on 07/14/2014 9:03:00 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: tumblindice
FRiend, that kind of thinking supports the gangbanger’s excuse, “He dissed me, so I shot him.”

It wasn't meant to, FRiend.

My, how angry people get with such a small, simple statement from ONE FReeper making ONE comment on ONE subject.

Thin skins on a site which usually requires THICK skins. Oh well.

15 posted on 07/14/2014 9:06:28 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Alas Babylon!

If only Nicole had been nicer.


16 posted on 07/14/2014 9:06:51 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: cloudmountain
Police said the relationship between Tolman and Madden was unclear. No motive was released, and investigators gave no further details about the text messages he sent her.

Apparently you have more information about this than the article does. Please enlighten us all about what happened.

17 posted on 07/14/2014 9:08:39 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
YOU should know.

YOU are the one who is holding on to the photo of that piece of manure.

YOU are the one it means so much to.

Perfect call sign of yours...Babylon.
Babble on and on.

18 posted on 07/14/2014 9:09:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
cloudmountain, you're obviously having a very bad day. Your other posts here at FR have usually been quite interesting and insightful. You've generally been most considerate to others with different opinions. Please don't spoil your (until now) good track record.

Regards,

19 posted on 07/14/2014 9:15:27 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Possible zot here for just outrageous behavior and comments


20 posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:49 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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