Skip to comments.What is UN good for if Gaza in flames, asks Turkish PM Erdogan
Posted on 07/16/2014 9:13:53 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
The humanitarian tragedy in Gaza due to Israels devastating attacks has moved Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to once again slam the United Nations alleged lack of effectiveness.
I wonder, how can we make an explanation for what Israel has done, as a human being, no matter which religion or sect we are from? Erdoğan said late on July 15.
The United Nations is the number one responsible on this matter. I always ask the U.N: What do you serve for? Why was this U.N. founded? To provide the worlds peace? If the U.N. cant fulfill its job, then it should check itself. You look at the U.N. Security Council, everything is between the lips of five countries, Erdoğan said, speaking at a fast-breaking iftar meal hosted by his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) for ambassadors accredited in Ankara.
The Prime Minister of the Republic of Turkey is surely not loved; of course he wont be loved. Where in the world are those who tell the truth loved? But we will continue to tell the truth, he added.
In the last few years, particularly since the beginning of the Syrian conflict, Erdoğan has grown increasingly vocal in his criticism of the U.N. for its failure to reach an agreement on how to respond to the bloody conflict in Turkeys neighboring country.
Both Erdoğan and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu fiercely argue in favor of a reform of the U.N. Security Council, which they describe as an unequal and unfair system that fails to reflect the will of most countries.
Still, having held one of the non-permanent seats of the council, the Western European and Others seat, in 2009-2010, Turkey is currently exerting intense efforts for the 2015-2016 period. The related election will be held in October.
In the same iftar speech, Erdoğan also closed the door on a potential normalization of bilateral ties with Israel under the current conditions. In the face of such incidents, do you think Israel-Turkey relations can normalize? On the one hand you will drop 400-500 tons of bombs, you will kill defenseless people and threaten global peace, and then you will talk about the normalization of relations. This is unacceptable to us, he said.
Turkey tries to mediate for cease-fire
Meanwhile, Ankara has been attempting to mediate a cease-fire between Palestinian groups and Israel, with Foreign Minister Davutoğlu holding talks with his U.S. and Qatari counterparts, along with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.
Turkey is conducting intense diplomacy to reach a truce that will include all players - Hamas and other Palestinian groups, Davutoğlu said yesterday in a televised interview, criticizing the Israeli administration for not contacting the Palestinians over their unilateral cease-fire offer.
Citing his phone conversations with Abbas and Mashaal, Davutoğlu said the Palestinian side demanded a comprehensive real truce, negotiated with all parties and consisting of elements of the 2012 deal, and the Gilad Shalit deal, he said.
Davutoğlu noted that he had phone conversations with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry late on July 15, during a meeting with Qatar Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani. Davutoğlu also talked to Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
He again urged for the opening of the Gaza port, under the monitoring of the international community, including the U.N.
I told both Abbas and Mashaal that they should not break the unity government under any circumstances. I told them that this [Israeli campaign] was an act to destroy the unity government. They will preserve the unity government, he stated.
Davutoğlu criticized the Europe and U.S. of taking a pro-Israel stance. Europe is wary of making statements due to feelings of guilt, he said, before also citing the influence of the Jewish lobby in the U.S.
He claimed that Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip were an effort to eliminate Hamas, adding that if Israel thinks it can get rid of Hamas and establish an administration closer to it, then it is mistaken. He noted that Turkey conveyed to Israel that relations between the two countries could not be normalized if this policy of Israel continues.
Ummm ... better than Israel in flames with all the Hamas rockets they are shooting off over onto Israel.
ACTUALLY, Hamas itself has the power to stop Israel from invading at this moment. If they “go absolutely quiet” and accept the cease fire that Israel did (from Egypt yesterday) ... there would be no flakes in Gaza!
Just one word.....PKK.
Remember the good-old pre-Erdogan days when the military kept Turkey from going off the rails? It seems so long ago.
... that’s ... “no flames in Gaza.”
Erdogan. Like he’s got no islamist dog in this fight.
Erdogan cleaned the military out of any dissenters. If there’s another Ataturk in the ranks, he’s a very junior officer.
United Nazis is good for nothing now that those dam@edJooos can defend themselves. Suggest disbanding it.
The UN is both practiced at, and very good at handing out aid donated by the United States while the UN employees demand sex favors from children before handing over the aid.
Hey Muslims - call for more “Blue Helmets”, they will fit in (pun intended) with the native Muslims.
Kinda rough on the boys and small livestock, but what Blue Helmet or Muslim cares about their opinions, anyway.
And where as Nagodre erdogan when Hamas was firing off missiles at Israel. Oh... that’s right, he was doing his toenails and couldn’t be bothered.
This guy can go straight to hell...
That’s about it...
“Erdogan cleaned the military out of any dissenters. If theres another Ataturk in the ranks, hes a very junior officer.”
Obama is well along the way to “fundamentally transforming” the American military.
The UN is only good for what it always has been good for- bashing the U.S. and Israel.
Be very careful how you show your support for Israel ... see this article just posted ...
Israel ambassador to U.S. Jews: Hamas winning war of public opinion
NEW YORK — Ambassador Ron Dermer, Israels chief diplomatic representative in the U.S., asked some 700 American Jews on a conference call this week for their help shifting the messaging on Israel. Israel is being routinely portrayed in both conventional and social media as an angry, well-armed giant leaving many innocent victims in its wake during the current crisis with Hamas, Dermer said.
The call was organized by the Jewish Federations of North America, which this week sent federation leaders to visit targeted towns in Israel, and the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. Dermer told his audience that Hamas may be winning the war over public opinion, as Israel is vilified for the civilian casualties its bombs cause in Gaza, while Hamas is not being blamed for instructing Palestinians to stay in their homes even when they have been warned by the IDF that the locations will be bombed imminently.
Hamas is putting its missile batteries and command centers next to schools and hospitals. That is a major war crime. While we are doing everything possible to keep civilians out of harms way, Hamas is trying to put their people into harms way. Gazas interior minister said people should ignore warnings and go back into their homes. We are taking action to minimize to the greatest extent possible number of civilian casualties, they are doing everything to maximize it.
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We need to make ABSOLUTELY CLEAR when we talk about and support Israel, that it is NOT engaging in a GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN against the Palestinian civilians - but that it’s HAMAS who is.
We must be STRONGLY EMPHATIC that Israel does NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES against Palestinian civilians and explain the ways that Israel goes about avoiding collateral damage, while strongly attacking Hamas and its missiles that are flying into Israel.
If you believe that Israel should commit war crimes and engage in a GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN against Palestinians — then just SHUT UP! ... because you’re doing Israel no favor with your genocidal talk!
The UN is “ineffective”? The Turkish prime minister is probably right in that assessment, but not for the reasons he cites. The UN is simply incapable of imposing its will on recalcitrant Muslim militants, the major player here in the prolongation of hostilities. The Israelis are willing to call it off, if there is any sign of acceptance by Hamas.
The solidarity of Muslims everywhere is one of the most tenuous of relationships, as they will fall to fighting each others on the most minute of differences and at the least provocation.
Hey, the UN is blaming it all on Israel as well. What more do you want?
I don’t agree with Erdogan on hardly anything, but I have been asking what use the UN is for decades.
What good is the UN if it cannot prevent the Gazans from bombarding Israel with missiles?
What good is the UN for? Not a damn thing except supporting the communists/dictatorships of the world.
The UN is good for absolutely nothing but getting in the way.
“What is UN good for?”
Absolutely nothing. HUH!!!
(h/t Elaine Bennis)
Looks like Magog is rattling their chains.
He's also one of Obama's buddies. If the number of forced turnovers at the top of the US military structure is any indication, Obama has taken some advice from him.