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How to Think About Immigration
National Review ^ | 7/13/14 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 07/16/2014 10:32:57 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

he influx of children across our southern border is troubling. First, because they are not all children — not by a sight — but images of children are useful for stirring emotions to muddy the policy waters. Second, because it is not all that unusual: As the Wall Street Journal reports, between 23,000 and 47,000 minors illegally entered the United States and were apprehended in each of the past five years; in 2013, we ordered only 3,525 deportations, suggesting that something on the order of nine in ten, or more, of minor illegal aliens — again, of the number apprehended — are allowed to stay. The number not apprehended is very large, the number of non-minors is very large, and that is how we find ourselves with not millions but tens of millions of illegal aliens resident in these United States.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; immigration; mexico
National Review has been a disappointment on immigration for quite some time, I'm glad to see that they're starting to turn around. I suppose another way of looking at it is that things have gotten so bad with the latest round of invasions that even advocates of more liberal immigration policies have started to see the light and turn around.
1 posted on 07/16/2014 10:32:57 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
Points from the article that bear repeating:

4. Immigrants often serve our national economic interests by bringing skills and resources to the service of the U.S. economy. That is not the case for the largely unskilled and uneducated agricultural workers and casual laborers who make up the bulk of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico and Latin America. There is not very much in the way of plausible argument that these immigrants are very important to our economy, much less so very important that we should set aside law, caution, and sovereignty for their sake. Again, the national government acts for the sake of its citizens, not for the sake of citizens of other countries.

5. Immigration from nearby countries — and, to some extent, all modern immigration — presents absorption problems that were not present with, say, European immigrants in the late 18th and early 19th century. To have a few unassimilated ethnic and linguistic minorities is normal in a large, modern country. But it is one thing to have a couple of Ukrainian churches in Philadelphia or a handful of German-speaking communities in Texas. It is another thing to have a socio-linguistic Berlin Wall or three running through practically every community in the country. Adjacency to Mexico, along with easier travel and communication, makes assimilating Mexican immigrants more difficult than assimilating the Irish generations ago. This is not at all helped by opportunistic political entrepreneurs such as La Raza and MEChA, which cultivate racial sentiment and separatism within Hispanic communities. Some parts of the country, such as my native West Texas, have long been Anglo-Hispanic cultural hybrids, and that can be a wonderful thing. It is not necessarily a good model for the country at large

Both are a good refutation to the "they do the jobs Americans won't do" and "they're just like all previous generations of immigrants" lies that we're usually fed.

2 posted on 07/16/2014 10:34:44 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, AND SHALL PROTECT EACH OF THEM AGAINST INVASION.

3 posted on 07/16/2014 10:35:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ek_hornbeck

What happened to the law requiring all immigrants to have a citizen sponsor?


4 posted on 07/16/2014 10:46:45 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

They have only seen the “political” light and the “subscriber” light.

When this “Border Storm” passes, when the election is over, they will go right back to selling Amnesty and massive legal immigration.

Our Republican leadership is incorrigible.

They can NEVER be trusted again on this issue.


5 posted on 07/16/2014 10:58:21 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
When this “Border Storm” passes, when the election is over, they will go right back to selling Amnesty and massive legal immigration. Our Republican leadership is incorrigible. They can NEVER be trusted again on this issue.

You're right, and this will only change when more voters start drawing lines in the sand. One of the reasons that George Bush and Bob Dole (deservedly) lost their elections is that conservatives stayed home. They drew a line in the sand saying that if you compromise on guns or taxes, we won't vote for "the lesser evil." If you're going to get shafted, it may as well be by a liberal Democrat than by a Republican who stabs you in the back.

Eventually, Republicans learned their lesson and became less likely to compromise on guns and taxes. Voters need to start doing the same on immigration.

6 posted on 07/16/2014 11:11:19 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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There aren't that many agricultural jobs they can do here anymore if they wanted.

We are going to let China process our chicken products, the liberals have turned the central California valley into a dust bowl, and most of our fresh produce come from the illegals home countries to begin with if not South America.

7 posted on 07/16/2014 11:25:18 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (I dream of country without liberals.)
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To: ek_hornbeck
4. Immigrants often serve our national economic interests by bringing skills and resources to the service of the U.S. economy. That is not the case for the largely unskilled and uneducated agricultural workers and casual laborers who make up the bulk of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico and Latin America.

We are bringing in plenty of unskilled and uneducated LEGAL immigrants. We have a kinship system where immigrants here can sponsor their relatives to join them. We bring in 1.1 million LEGAL immigrants a year with only about 12% coming here due to their skills.

LEGAL immigrants use welfare to a greater extent than the native born.

The bulk of LEGAL immigrants come from Mexico and Latin America.


8 posted on 07/16/2014 11:28:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Citizen Soldier
There aren't that many agricultural jobs they can do here anymore if they wanted.

We are going to let China process our chicken products, the liberals have turned the central California valley into a dust bowl, and most of our fresh produce come from the illegals home countries to begin with if not South America.

Which deflates the "they do jobs Americans won't do" line of bs still further...

Growing up, we had virtually no Mexicans or Central Americans in town that I can remember. Somehow, the lawns still got mowed, the roofs still got tarred, and the berries still got picked.

9 posted on 07/16/2014 11:29:37 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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I see the towns, cities, and states burdened into eternity supporting the aliens by education, whether elementary or community colleges, housing them, feeding them, free transportation, and on and on and on. Every day our parish gives out food and clothing to homeless, lots of vets, and they live in sleeping bags in washes and in the desert on the outskirts of Tucson. What’s wrong with this picture? Eventually, these “children” we will support will want to move on and have “fun” and who will support them?


10 posted on 07/16/2014 11:44:05 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (I dream of country without liberals.)
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To: kabar

Excellent informational graphs. Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 07/16/2014 11:58:37 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: kabar

Table 5 identifies the real problem. What America needs is more immigration from among the peoples and cultures that built her, not more 3rd-worlders looking for government gimmes. But of course that’s not going to happen, and that’s why I think America’s best days are very much behind her.


12 posted on 07/16/2014 1:19:31 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Trod Upon

The 1965 Immigration Act changed America forever.


13 posted on 07/16/2014 2:03:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Destroyed it actually. You watch.


14 posted on 07/16/2014 2:12:48 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: ek_hornbeck

“National Review has been a disappointment on immigration for quite some time,”

For a long time. They were getting bad as early as 1990 and simply got worse over time, firing editors who dared to write about the issue. I cancelled long ago when the adults were replaced by the GOPe Youth Brigade.

I wouldn’t put any faith in NR’s newfound concern. They are just mouthing the right words because the public is getting angry over the invasion.

National Review used to “stand athwart history yelling stop!”

Now they stand at the rear of conservative America yelling “wait! wait! I’m your leader!”

They are no more to be trusted than the sleazy GOPe they carry water for.


15 posted on 07/16/2014 3:28:40 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: kabar

“LEGAL immigrants use welfare to a greater extent than the native born.”

See that all the time here in SoCal. We legally import people who increase our welfare burden.


16 posted on 07/16/2014 3:31:09 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Pelham
I wouldn’t put any faith in NR’s newfound concern. They are just mouthing the right words because the public is getting angry over the invasion.

The politicians are even worse. It would be laughable to hear Rick Perry talk tough on immigration and border enforcement after years of supporting amnesty in everything but name if it weren't so pathetic. It's only a matter of time before Jeb Bush starts talking tough on "securing our borders" in time for his 2016 run for the WH.

For a long time. They were getting bad as early as 1990 and simply got worse over time, firing editors who dared to write about the issue. I cancelled long ago when the adults were replaced by the GOPe Youth Brigade.

Agreed. Hard to believe that a mouthpiece for mental midgets like Jonah Goldberg once showcased giants of conservative thought like Kirk and Burnham.

17 posted on 07/16/2014 3:40:46 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Pelham

Another case in point: hard to believe that there’s an approving quote of Pat Buchanan on immigration in NR. Ten or twenty years ago, most NR columnists were too busy repeating liberal epithets about Buchanan’s “xenophobia” and “racism” to notice that his warnings were prophetic. Now that the GOP’s version of multiculturalism has started to implode, they’re backtracking and trying to make it look like they weren’t on the wrong side of the (border) fence.


18 posted on 07/16/2014 3:46:27 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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“Agreed. Hard to believe that a mouthpiece for mental midgets like Jonah Goldberg once showcased giants of conservative thought like Kirk and Burnham. “

We must be beyond our expiration date since we remember Russell Kirk and James Buchanan, e_h.

“Ten or twenty years ago, most NR columnists were too busy repeating liberal epithets about Buchanan’s “xenophobia” and “racism” to notice that his warnings were prophetic.”

Shoot, the disgraceful frauds at NR weren’t just repeating that crap they were generating a lot of it. One of the more shameful episodes in the conservative movement.

Yesterday I ran across a hit piece by Ben Shapiro, one of the kiddy brigade doing mornings at the Salem radio station in LA. He was wearing diapers when PJB was working for Reagan but he’s an ‘expert’ on how evil Buchanan is.

The little fool didn’t even bother to do basic fact checking on some of his accusations. Buchanan gets blamed for the Bitburg controversy, no matter that Michael Deaver was Reagan’s media adviser and the man who arranged the visit.

Does it ever occur to these geniuses that they are impugning Reagan’s judgement when they call Buchanan a Nazi? Of course I can remember early Buchanan haters saying the very same things about Reagan so I guess it wouldn’t be a problem for them. I subscribed to Commentary Magazine at the time this stuff got started and there were plenty of nasty comments aimed at Reagan to be found in its pages.


19 posted on 07/16/2014 4:27:09 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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