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Tesoro Refinery fire, Anacortes, Washington
WhiskeyX | 2014-07-16 | WhiskeyX

Posted on 07/16/2014 6:39:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX

At least two large fires that appear to be uncontrolled are visible at the Tesoro Refinery, Anacortes, Washington. No further information is available at this time. The Tesoro website does not say anything about the fires yet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: energy; fire; refinery

1 posted on 07/16/2014 6:39:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

There goes the price of no lead!

CC


2 posted on 07/16/2014 6:42:12 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: WhiskeyX

Yikes. Prayers up!


3 posted on 07/16/2014 6:42:50 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: WhiskeyX

Not finding anything on the web yet.


4 posted on 07/16/2014 6:48:55 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: WhiskeyX

Weren’t there several killed by an explosion at this same facility a few years ago? The name is familiar.


5 posted on 07/16/2014 6:50:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: WhiskeyX

2010

http://www.csb.gov/csb-investigation-finds-2010-tesoro-refinery-fatal-explosion-resulted-from-high-temperature-hydrogen-attack-damage-to-heat-exchanger/


6 posted on 07/16/2014 6:51:26 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

yes. I can’t recall, but I don’t think they have been fully up for too long. Wow.


7 posted on 07/16/2014 6:52:38 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: WhiskeyX

I looked on www.nwcn.com news site, nothing yet. Hwy 2 closed up near Leavenworth due to forest fires though.


8 posted on 07/16/2014 6:58:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: listenhillary

The fires are currently towering above the tank farm. There are at least two major flames visible from several miles away. One of the fires is sending up a column of thick black smoke. The other flares up above the tank farm and then subsides before flaring up again. The refinery spokesman’s telephone number says to leave a message. Nothing seen so far at the Seattle Post Intelligencer, FoxNews, etc.


9 posted on 07/16/2014 7:01:29 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Just cycled through all of the local channels up here. There isn’t a peep on ANY channel. If there was a big fire at the refinery, SOMEONE would say something, don’t you think?


10 posted on 07/16/2014 7:06:30 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: WhiskeyX

Still not seeing anything on local (Seattle) news or on Twitter. Keep us updated, please.


11 posted on 07/16/2014 7:06:46 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: hoagy62

“Just cycled through all of the local channels up here. There isn’t a peep on ANY channel. If there was a big fire at the refinery, SOMEONE would say something, don’t you think?”

Yes, but no one seems to know anything about it. The spokesman for the refinery has a recorded message saying to leave a message. The Anacortes Police department says they have no information they can give out, and contact the Tesoro refinery.

Nonetheless, there are two fires ablaze that are sending up flames up to double the height of the tanks in the tank farm. Go figure....


12 posted on 07/16/2014 7:10:09 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Celtic Conservative

Everything in automotive fuel is no lead and has been for eons. Aviation piston engines still use 100LL I think.


13 posted on 07/16/2014 7:12:49 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: WhiskeyX

Well, I just Tweeted one of the local news stations, asking if anyone’s heard anything. No reply as yet.


14 posted on 07/16/2014 7:14:22 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: steve86

I think he meant “no ethanol”


15 posted on 07/16/2014 7:17:01 PM PDT by Scutter
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16 posted on 07/16/2014 7:19:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Scutter

No ethanol premium is 4.89 here in eastern WA and I shudder to think of that headed higher. May not get the boat out at all at this rate.


17 posted on 07/16/2014 7:23:01 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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Scanner action for Skagit County last 5 minutes.

A girl living behind the funeral home swallowed a nickle and has now thrown it up.


18 posted on 07/16/2014 7:23:19 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: WhiskeyX

I live just a couple of miles across the water from Tesoro. I noticed the smoke but none of their alarm sirens have gone off. You can easily hear those for 15-20 miles. That refinery was built in the mid-50s as a Shell refinery.


19 posted on 07/16/2014 7:36:11 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: beelzepug

The Leavenworth fire is visible in the east way beyond the mountains.


20 posted on 07/16/2014 7:43:02 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: brothers4thID

About two or two and a half hours later the fires have been greatly reduced now. There is still an occasional flareup with a flame rising up from behind one of the large green storage tanks. Otherwise there are at least two small columns of white smoke coming from the principal sites of the fires.


21 posted on 07/16/2014 8:30:10 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes, they were killed in April 2010.


22 posted on 07/16/2014 10:05:27 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Washington state average 3.962

Test case for "they didn't start hanging politicians at $3.96 a gallon. will they at $4.25 a gallon"?

23 posted on 07/16/2014 10:11:06 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: hoagy62

See:

No injuries in Tesoro ‘unplanned fire event’

http://www.goskagit.com/news/local_news/no-injuries-in-tesoro-unplanned-fire-event/article_3050f4ea-0d57-11e4-b9c2-0019bb2963f4.html

The reporting in that article appears to be seriously underplaying the scope of the incident. This event was considerably more than just an exceptional amount of flaring. There were multiple fires underway in separate areas. One of the fires was either atop a storage tank or coming up from behind the storage tank some tens of feet into the air above the storage tank.


24 posted on 07/16/2014 11:36:22 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

How many illegal muslims transported to WA? How many to Denver? Not a peep as Chickenpoper in a tight re-election race. sanctuary city and all, I’d bet thousands.

wa


25 posted on 07/16/2014 11:48:22 PM PDT by DISCO
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To: hoagy62

If anyone wants to take the time to post a photograph of the fire in this thread, I’ll e-mail the jpeg file to them.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 2:31:25 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: steve86

Ran my boat on the ethanol variety for 2 years and had to do a major overhaul of the fuel system and carburetor. They recommend the additive, so I’ll let you know in 2 years if it’s any better. It’s hard to find the no lead except at major river/lake docks. More expensive but probably the better choice.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 4:23:13 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: WhiskeyX
This event was considerably more than just an exceptional amount of flaring.

Given the news reports and my experience with emergency flares in a process unit, I suspect this was only controlled flares and no fire outside intended release.

An emergency flare from an upset in a process unit can be a massive fire, but completely under control from a nozzle designed for the heat and flow.

28 posted on 07/17/2014 5:35:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Picture courtesy of FReeper WhiskeyX

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29 posted on 07/17/2014 6:44:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: WhiskeyX
For comparison purposes, this is what I think of as a large refinery fire.

A smaller fire might look like, but also note on the right the large controlled flames coming from the flare in an emergency condition.


30 posted on 07/17/2014 6:49:48 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: WhiskeyX
This is an example of a refinery with multiple emergency flares going off. Depending on your point of view, the flare can be hidden behind tanks and other structures.


31 posted on 07/17/2014 6:52:57 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Understood, we have a family member who works at the neighboring refinery. The local news report described the fire as an “unplanned fire event,” which is a rather tongue-in-cheek understatement in itself given how there were multiple fires underway for awhile, and they were large enough to tower over the tank farm in at least two locations with what appeared to be other smaller fires in between and around the larger two flames. Two and a half hours later one of the two major sources still flared up from time to time atop or behind one of the storage tanks, while the other fires appeared to have been brought under control and were venting. So, this event appeared to be something considerably more than just some flame and flare from one of the nozzles or vents in a planned unit restart gone awry.


32 posted on 07/17/2014 6:57:13 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX; thackney

You need to understand that emergency flares are designed to be on fire when needed.

Say you have a vessel designed for a particular pressure of a flammable gas. If the pressure gets too high (for whatever reason due to process or control issues), the alternatives are to let the vessel explode (bad), let explosive gasses loose (potential for explosion if an ignition source is contacted), or to purposely burn the gas off (flare).

These types of fires are not pleasant as they represent lost product ($), and environmental regulation hassles, but they are preferable to the alternatives.


33 posted on 07/17/2014 7:15:01 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: WhiskeyX

I worked at that refinery in 1980 but then it was owned by Texaco and they filmed several Bob “for Texaco” Hope commercials there.

It was old then and we were there to replace and repair damage that was done by an explosion in the catalyst cracker. The enviroweenies have got this country by the balls and will stop every effort to employ new technology and build modern refineries. That is why we continue to see these problems...


34 posted on 07/17/2014 7:22:17 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: SoothingDave

We do understand that having had the safety training and witnessing prior incidents in which workers were killed at these two refineries. In a few hours we may learn more details about what happened. Understand, the posted picture is what the scene looked like about 2 and a half hours after the fires started at about 6PM. By the time the picture was taken most of the flame and smoke had been subdued. The flames were much larger than what is pictured later, and one of the other sources of the flames was in the vicinity of the vapor-smoke column seen to the left of the flame above the storage tank. Although it was difficult to see the small details, it looked as though there were smaller fires near ground level between those locations.

I don’t want to exagerrate the extent of the incident, but it was large enough and impressive enough to attract a large crowd of onlookers because of the unusual size of the fires and smoke columns and number of them which did not appear to be coming from the usual flare stacks. Later today there will likely be some further information about what happened.


35 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:22 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: shotgun

You’ve got the wrong refinery. The refinery on fire yesterday is the current Tesoro Refinery, which is the former Shell Refinery before the Texaco Refinery was sold to Shell due to FTC rules when Chevron merged with Texaco. In other words, Shell swapped refineries, and this is Shell’s forme refinery, the one with the green tankage. The former Texaco Refinery (Texaco, Equilon, Puget Sound Refinery, et al), now the Shell refinery, is outside the picture frame to the right.

Yeah, the “enviroweenies” are throwing a hissy fit here in opposition to the cargo trains hauling in the Bakken oil. The plant managers are currently trying to increase the railroad facilities to handle more tank cars, but they are being opposed by people who are equating the oil tank car trains to death trains being rolling bombs in their communities.


36 posted on 07/17/2014 7:47:49 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Two and a half hours later one of the two major sources still flared up from time to time atop or behind one of the storage tanks, while the other fires appeared to have been brought under control and were venting. So, this event appeared to be something considerably more than just some flame and flare from one of the nozzles or vents in a planned unit restart gone awry.

You have more info of this event than I do so I could be way off base. But judging just from your descriptions, and the picture, and my experience in plants, that is flares.

I would say it was certainly not planned based upon your description, but a reaction to something gone wrong and multiple processes had to go to emergency flares. Look again at the last photo, there are 5 flares in emergency condition. It might take several hours for those to balance out the mass flow before they could shut down.

37 posted on 07/17/2014 7:58:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Yes, and it would also fit into the report there was supposed to be no damage sufficient to interfere with plant operations. Wait till the next safety meeting at the plant.... No doubt there will be a few things said at that meeting.

Normally I would have had one of my good cameras with a long zoom lens with me at 6PM, but left them behind that time to go to the Framer’s Market for just a few minutes. The pictures of the fires would have been impressive and memorable.


38 posted on 07/17/2014 8:18:16 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

They get to have their cake and eat it too! No pipelines and no rail cars!


39 posted on 07/17/2014 9:27:56 AM PDT by shotgun
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