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GOP LOST AT THE BORDER
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | July 16, 2010 | Mike Flynn

Posted on 07/16/2014 7:29:14 PM PDT by Bratch


The central weakness of the Republican's political position in Washington has been on vivid display as the situation at the southern border has devolved into a complete crisis. As tens of thousands of foreign nationals overwhelm the border and render our sovereign boundary meaningless, Republicans in DC are tinkering with legislative fixes they say will address the situation. As if the crisis at the border is the result of some drafting error or a failure to enact some specific law relevant to this precise set of circumstances. It is a fool's errand.

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Republicans in DC have chosen to be a legislative opposition, rather than a political opposition. They don't articulate an alternative vision of the role of government and law in our society but, rather, a different basket of legislation and proposals. Is is any wonder that House Democrats are raising more money than House Republicans for the midterm elections? Contrast that with how Republican governors are running fundraising rings around state Democrats.

Voters want to support a vision, not a laundry list of legislative proposals. Mitt Romney beat Barack Obama on almost every single issue in 2012, according to exit polls. Voters, however, believed that Obama "understood" them. The rest is history. 

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; gope; immigration
Modern Republican establishment outreach tactics.



1 posted on 07/16/2014 7:29:14 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

This article nails it and completely unmasks the Stupid Party for what they really are: The crony-capitalist wing of the Democrat Party.


2 posted on 07/16/2014 7:32:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Maybe Bonehead will file a lawsuit. That should take care of it.


3 posted on 07/16/2014 7:35:16 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t think we are losing the PR war on the border. In fact, even The Hill this week said that immigration is no longer a winner for the Democrats. Now, it’s nothing that the Republicans have done - but it’s the Democrats…they are losing this.

As is America...


4 posted on 07/16/2014 7:47:56 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: tennmountainman

Definition: Wimp - slang meaning “weakling, coward”


5 posted on 07/16/2014 7:53:23 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Bratch

So what is the GOP supposed to do short of giving 3.7B to el Presidente for starters?

I understand why Senor Flynn will not criticize el Presidente because it would be ‘racismo’...

but shall our Congress critters pack a lunch and head to the border? Whats they sposed to do? Help me out here!


6 posted on 07/16/2014 7:58:19 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Bratch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE


7 posted on 07/16/2014 8:04:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize-Voltaire)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I only hear people pissed at zer0 over the border. This is his doing and everyone knows it.


8 posted on 07/16/2014 8:04:53 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I only hear people pissed at zer0 over the border. This is his doing and everyone knows it.


9 posted on 07/16/2014 8:04:54 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Bratch

Maybe a GOP congress critter has been yelling this from the roof tops but I haven’t heard or read about a single one. And that is “IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE BEING IGNORES AND BORDER SECURITY IS BEING IGNORED.”


10 posted on 07/16/2014 8:05:59 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Bttt


11 posted on 07/16/2014 8:09:48 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Hostage
Via Sarah Palin's Facebook

Dear Humanitarians, Since it Takes a Village to Stop Amnesty Abuse of Children, Join Me

“It’s for the children!”

“This is a humanitarian crisis!”

Finally, they have won me over. I actually agree with the liberals’ war whoop. I, too, demand that this issue of young illegal aliens flooding across our border into horrendous conditions be taken care of. Now! Uncompassionate people, wake up! Though it’s claimed by Democrats ad nauseam to justify more spending to pile on our $17 trillion debt, and it’s applied to every single “crisis” their policies conjure up, and no matter the cause you’re labeled a racist if you disagree with their policies, well, this time it really IS for the children.

I say this as a mother – a bleeding-heart compassionate woman and mother. I say, how dare anyone turn a blind eye and further harden your horrid heart when you see these pictures snuck out of the innocent children’s holding pens – snuck out because our government is censoring images released. It must be my (former) friends in the GOP ordering this censorship because Democrat leadership knows better than to EVER spy on or censor the press; they’d NEVER infringe on the First Amendment. So, for shame, Republicans.

These thousands of hungry, innocent children rushing in through Mexico are just the tip of the Sedona Red Rocks (granted, some of these illegals are 18-year-old men whom you wouldn’t want to mess with, but, still, according to Obamacare we now dub young adults “children” until they’re 26, so…). Expect to see hundreds of thousands of another country’s children walk right through our welcoming open border, counting on America’s families to render all aid. We owe it to ourselves to be prepared – so, work even harder, working class, while our President uses his trustworthy discernment to redistribute your paycheck, because it IS for the children, after all. And it takes a village, don’t you know?

These victims are brought here (by SOMEONE in authority in their own countries) facing sweltering 110-degree Arizona heat, illness, unsanitary conditions with unbelievable hygiene issues, Texan food the kids don’t like because it’s too foreign to them, and possibly sexual exploitation. By any definition, this is child abuse!

We cannot ignore this, and to do so proves you are heartlessly oblivious to the plight of those who, though not willing and able to follow rules or our laws, are expecting a free pass and handout anyway. As a Christian I find it unforgivable to ignore this issue of overrunning border security into these conditions in southern states, and this one issue is just about driving me to renounce my Republican ties because, see, even leaders on the RIGHT side of the aisle haven’t exerted all Constitutional power to stop the madness. A few have tried, but until they’re sent reinforcements, then atrocities like the child abuse and exploitation you’re now getting wind of will only get worse.

It’s already hard to recognize our once exceptional nation amidst the neglect of this issue of children used as political pawns. Can you imagine this disregard for child safety happening even a short decade ago? The press would have had none of it, and they’d shine light on what the underlying problem is. They’d report that it’s not the innocent babes’ fault, would attempt to get to the bottom of it, and then finally they’d blame Bush. Today, that approach is ignored. They just blame Bush. There is a loud and aggressive invitation to illegals of all ages and from all countries to “kick off your shoes and come on in!” Now that’s Southern Hospitality! It’s sent by foreign leaders and our own. C’mon, with all the free stuff we can supply everyone, how can anyone turn this down? Government will have to grow enormously to accommodate this influx, and services and care will inevitably have to be rationed, but like we teach our children – we’re all better off being disciplined! And isn’t sharing our resources okay as long as we have trustworthy, compassionate career politicians in charge of the nation’s priorities? Remember, our Republic has been blessed because we committed to nurture a caring, compassionate, pro-child, law abiding citizenry. And because of those mores, it’s unconscionable to take any more of this chaos and crisis. I say, enough is enough. This issue of the children MUST be addressed.

So, GOP and Democrats alike, where are you on this humanitarian issue of child abuse?

Hang on to your hat, because here’s the issue: Barack Obama has orchestrated this newest “crisis” in order to overload the system with the intention of “fixing” the problems his own policies create – by fiat, and that infamous phone and pen; screw the rule of law. He’s warned you by proudly claiming his executive orders can bypass the peoples’ representatives and obviously ignore the will of the people.

This exploitation of foreigners’ children is an inhumane ploy to entice families to break laws by literally shoving kids across one of Obama’s infamous and irrelevant lines, with assurance that parents, aunties, step-uncles and third cousins twice removed will get to cut in line too – that sacred line that previously led law abiding, hardworking immigrants to build this great nation. Barack Obama will keep phoning in and penning the message that he will NOT secure borders, so, hey, extended undocumented relatives, you’re free to join the kids being used and abused to snag that golden ticket. Obama surely knows a nation is not a nation without borders, while we must surely know this is the “fundamental transformation of America” that he promised and some of us warned about.

Congress and American voters, how long will you let Team Obama get away with this? The recent avalanche of devastating crises caused by a president believing he is above the law has set the most dangerous precedent a once-free people can imagine. To encourage and reward lawlessness by refusing to enforce the will of the people as proven by laws passed by our political representatives is the signature of a tyrant. In this case, Obama’s refusal to enforce immigration laws and his blatant suggestion that his chosen illegal activity will be rewarded are proof of his tyrannical tactics. The recent numerous manipulated “crises” have the media pinging and ponging trying to keep up with what is the scandal of the day, which one overshadows another, and how will they distract next, and who’s on first?! Purposeful decisions causing these crises are meant to overload the system, justify abuse of executive power to “fix” it all, and ultimately tighten control of the people.

So, how much more will you take, Congress and We the People? I sense not enough guts in D.C. to file impeachment charges against Team Obama for their countless documented illegalities, so the way to stop this is at the ballot box. To fundamentally restore America to her destined exceptionalism you must get involved and then get to that box. Use YOUR phone and pen to support conservative candidates who will fight for what is right: Constitutionally protected freedom, respected military, free markets to create jobs, and secured borders to protect jobs! We need your help to do this; it takes more than a village to fortify the homeland. ANYONE associated with support for Obama’s deceptive ploys that would stoop to using and abusing innocent children must be voted out of office. ANYONE who has shined the boot that Obama’s put on the neck of our economy and security must be held accountable by those with the legal power to do so – Congress. And then We the People hold Congress accountable. Do not vote for any politician who has gone wobbly on their commitment to respect the will of the people and to fight to defend our Constitution. This wishy-washy status quo has got to go.

It IS for the children.

- Sarah Palin

P.S. I see that HHS is offering a $350 million grant to provide “family planning services” to the children here illegally. The primary expenditure we need to supply in this humanitarian crisis is jet fuel to fly these children back home to their parents.


12 posted on 07/16/2014 8:13:41 PM PDT by Bratch
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13 posted on 07/16/2014 8:18:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Bratch
As if the crisis at the border is the result of some drafting error or a failure to enact some specific law relevant to this precise set of circumstances. It is a fool's errand.

Couldn't have said it better.

14 posted on 07/16/2014 8:27:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Maybe it had to get this bad before most people wake up. Maybe this is what it takes for loyal rubber stamp rat voters to realize what they’ve enabled.

If that’s the case then maybe the republicans have done us a favor - whether or not it’s was intended is another question entirely.


15 posted on 07/16/2014 8:38:25 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Bratch
Thanks but the question is left unanswered. Sarah offers no immediate solution:

So, how much more will you take, Congress and We the People? I sense not enough guts in D.C. to file impeachment charges against Team Obama for their countless documented illegalities, so the way to stop this is at the ballot box. To fundamentally restore America to her destined exceptionalism you must get involved and then get to that box.

She admits impeachment ain't going to happen and she suggests voting the bums out but that takes time and Mississippi is having a tough time just getting the bums out the way.

There's not much the House can do. Boehner will not allow an impeachment vote and even if he did there are enough GOP cowards that an impeachment vote will not pass.

One half serious thing I would suggest is they allocate about 50 million to pay for hospices in Mexico to take these 26 year old adorable tatooed kids into.

Everything else I can think of would not be serious such as doing what the Congress member said to pay $8 million for first class tickets back to their homeland.

16 posted on 07/16/2014 8:39:52 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree. This border fiasco has big giant teeth sunk right into Obama’s rear end. It will not help democrats in the mid terms.


17 posted on 07/16/2014 8:55:18 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Bratch

Very good analysis.....


18 posted on 07/16/2014 9:21:59 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Organic Panic
Maybe a GOP congress critter has been yelling this from the roof tops but I haven’t heard or read about a single one. And that is “IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE BEING IGNORES AND BORDER SECURITY IS BEING IGNORED.”

Exactly. Obama and the Democrats have presented opportunity after opportunity to beat them over the head, yet the GOP can't seem to find a way to get a coherant message out pointing out how the Dems have (mostly) created this and other problems. They are one of lazy, stupid, or in full agreement with the Democrats, but none of those choices is good for the country.

19 posted on 07/16/2014 10:37:10 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Aria

zackly


20 posted on 07/17/2014 2:32:10 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Bratch

Excellent posting, Bratch!

Sarah speaks as a clear-headed American, unlike the politically elected and bent who constantly speak their words in some manner to try and appease every potential voter.


21 posted on 07/17/2014 3:36:17 AM PDT by octex
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To: Hostage
"So what is the GOP supposed to do short of giving 3.7 to el Presidente"

All it takes is money, but as to how much money, that is not known. Its good to know the process by which the border patrol deals with illegal Mexicans and illegal OTMs when they are apprehended in the border zone and also look at the history.

When an illegal Mexican is apprehended in the border zone, the border patrol gives him an option. He can immediately self deport and the majority chose this option and the Mexican govt readily accepts these illegal Mexicans. But if he says no to self deportation, then he will enter into the deportation system, which is costly to the US govt. But, as I said, most Mexican illegals self deport, so it doesn't the US govt much.

But OTMs are not given the option, they can't self deport because Mexico won't accept them because they are not Mexican citizens and Border patrol has to have pre-clearance before they can send them back to their country of origin.

So, Border Patrol has to send the OTMs into the deportation system but this becomes a problem because they overwhelm the system. They have to have detention facilities, courtrooms, judges, lawyers, officers. Because of budget constraints(not enough money), they can't hold them. Instead, the OTM is given an order to appear for his hearing(in the future), then released(catch and release). Obviously, if the illegal OTM is a an adult he has no intention showing up for that hearing and this order to appear he is holding becomes a get of jail card. If he gets apprehended a second time the order to appear exempts him from being held. Obviously this expires when he misses his hearing, but it gives him enough time to get to his destination and dis-appear into the underground.

Back in 2006/2007 this became a major issue and Bush/Congress had to come up with a big slug money to hold and deport these OTMs.

But then the problem of the illegal children came up and they couldn't be handled the same way so Congress passed legislation dealing with them. You can't put a child or a woman and child into the same facilities as the men. They have to be held separate and the child can't be held in any facility that looks like a prison or a jail. It is supposed to be more of a residential facility.

They had a big problem with this in Texas last year. There was a very old prison in south Texas that was no longer being used by the penal system so the Border Patrol leased it to hold the women and children and it must have been in bad shape because it didn't take long for a judge to find out about it and shut it down. But the media got hold of it plastered all these pictures of children with sad faces looking out between the bars of their cells. It was dirty, grimy and the paint was peeling off the walls. Most of the toilets were broken. Bad PR by the evil SOBs in the Border Patrol.

Now the system is overwhelmed and like in 2006/2007, its going to take money to fix it. These women and children have to be held and processed and those that do this will require at the least some re-imbursement. More money for the bureauracracy. These latin American countries will have to be leaned on and perhaps paid to accept these children promptly and dependably.

But, the GOP is not going to be willing to spend the money and they will be more interested in trying to exploit it as a political issue.

Whatever they do, it is just a patch and doesn't address the real problem

22 posted on 07/17/2014 8:21:01 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Good information thank you.

Recently republicans in the House have proposed or passed legislation to gut parts of the IRS budget. It seems they could target other law violating agencies, cut their budgets and then fund deportation facilities.

There can’t be more than a handful of countries where these people are coming from if they are OTM. Barring something extraordinary like and impeachment/conviction, conservatives will be waiting until 2016 for a conservative president to control the DOJ and the State Dept in order to permanently solve this problem at the border.

Any solution needs to go further and develop charges of treason on groups that advocate border violations, reconquista, etc.

Further again, the US government must levy charges of child abuse as poignantly described by Sarah Palin against those handful of countries that aided and abetted in this violation of American sovereignty and demand monetary restitution; example must be set.

Yet further, any islamic radicals caught at the border must not be allowed any access to the US Courts, rather they must be flown and processed immediately at Guantanamo Bay.

While waiting for a president that can execute these actions, the only tool Congress has short of unlikely impeachment is to target specific budget appropriations and redirect budget savings to the crisis at hand. Such budget actions will not be passed because of Reid and Obama, but there is a chance that the message would get out if republicans did not cave. The message regarding the IRS budget gutting has gotten out to a large extent. It’s possible a similar message regarding border budgeting could get out.


23 posted on 07/17/2014 9:53:59 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
"There can't be more than a handful of countries"

About 30% of the illegals are overstays. They came in on a temp visa and didn't leave when the visa expired. It could be a work visa, student visa, or tourist visa. A few years ago we had 50,000 illegal irish but I think many of them left when the economy collapsed.

Of the remaining 70%, about 55% are Mexicans, 20% are from other Latin America countries and then Canada-Europe for a few percent. They come from all over but predominately from the south. Evidently, China is the most uncooperative in authorizing returns of illegals

24 posted on 07/17/2014 10:28:27 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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