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Illinois Gov. Wants Statewide Assault Weapon Ban over Chicago Violence
breitbart.com ^ | 7/17/2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 07/17/2014 7:29:08 AM PDT by rktman

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn (D) is supporting statewide "restrictions" on .50 caliber rifles and bans on "assault weapon" and "high capacity" magazines because of the violence in heavily gun-controlled Chicago.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; chicago; chicagomurders; guncontrol; guncontrolnazis Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: rktman

Did he mention anything about Criminal control?


2 posted on 07/17/2014 7:30:16 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: rktman

Just how many of those murders were committed with .50 caliber rifles?


3 posted on 07/17/2014 7:30:17 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Details, details.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 7:31:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rktman

what about all of the other anti-gun laws already in place - aren’t they working??


5 posted on 07/17/2014 7:32:03 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: rktman

Criminals don’t follow laws. That’s why we came up with a name for them: criminals!

So this dope of a governor, like all liberals, is offering a cure that has absolutely no relation to the disease.


6 posted on 07/17/2014 7:32:20 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: mlo

.50 cal is good for a headline.
That’s all.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: rktman
.50 caliber rifle photo: Berrett M99 50 Cal. Sniper Rifle barrettM99g.jpg

Because everyone knows the weapon of choice for an inner city gang thug is a huge Barrett .50 rifle with a scope.

8 posted on 07/17/2014 7:35:59 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: rktman

So, does this mean there are no laws today in Chicago against injuring or killing another person? When they make gunz illegal, all this killing will stop because there will finally be a law against it? /s

Will they pass laws against rocks, sticks, knives, chainsaws, hammers, etc.?


10 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:20 AM PDT by wrench
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To: rktman

If they would ban even larger caliber, that would really stop the bad guys. Should go after 20mm and 40mm cannon as well.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:31 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: rktman

99% of Chicago’s problems could be solved with one simple societal change:

Women, require men to marry you before getting sex.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

How about sending in the national guard or military troops to the southside and implementing night time curfews? I don’t care if the people there whine about their loss of freedom and being in a lockdown mode. The rest of America and, for that matter, the folks in the other parts of Chicago are sick of that area being turned into an American Beirut and Baghdad.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 7:38:59 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: rktman

LMAO... Does this idiot think this will stop gang violence and their use of assault weapons?

Of course he doesn’t! It’s just an excuse to confiscate.


14 posted on 07/17/2014 7:39:47 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: rktman

They could stop the gun violence by giving away guns..................


15 posted on 07/17/2014 7:40:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,763 threads and 85,286 replies. ...............)
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To: rktman

The U.S. is third in the world in murders. Take out Chicago, Washington,Detroit and New Orleans and we are fourth from the bottom.
All four cities have been ruled by Democrats. All four have former mayors convicted in federal court of criminal offenses. And are near bankrupt.
We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.And that mental health problem is liberalism.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 7:40:47 AM PDT by all the best
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To: armydawg505

No, and neither did ne mention the DemocRat attack on the black family that has left millions of black children without a stable father in the house.


17 posted on 07/17/2014 7:42:32 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: mlo

But you can use one to shoot through a tank or shoot down an airliner at 30,000 feet!


19 posted on 07/17/2014 7:43:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: rktman

Listen up gangbangers, your assault weapons are about to be banned. Kindly refrain from killing using these weapons. Mkay...thanks.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 7:47:53 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Red Badger

Hmmm. I don’t think Detroit is that far away. Maybe they should give the Detroit Chief of Police a call and seek a little advice from him. I don’t think the demographics are that different between the two are they? Seems like Detroit has told it’s folks to man up and arm up and-——ta da. Less crime. Maybe. Haven’t seen any data to support the Chief but it makes sense to me.


21 posted on 07/17/2014 7:48:41 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: mlo

Just how many of those murders were committed with .50 caliber rifles?...Or so-called assault weapons?

Answer: Zero percent.

The goal is not to limit crime, but to disarm the resistance.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 7:50:25 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rktman

“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” - Robert A. Heinlein.............


23 posted on 07/17/2014 7:51:25 AM PDT by Red Badger ("An armed society is a polite society. " - Robert Heinlein................)
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To: JimRed

I would bet that most of the murders and other crimes are done with 9mm or similar caliber weapons....................


24 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:25 AM PDT by Red Badger ("An armed society is a polite society. " - Robert Heinlein................)
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To: all the best

Good paraphrase danka


25 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:34 AM PDT by therapsida
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To: Red Badger

Here’s the Detroit report:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/16/Detroit-Police-Chief-Armed-Citizens-Making-Detroit-Criminals-Think-Twice


26 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:44 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

What has worked for Detroit may not work in Chicago because many of the shootings in Chicago are gang related. But it couldn’t hurt.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 7:54:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: armydawg505

I’m surprised he didn’t call for limiting soft drink sizes, “to combat street violence.”


28 posted on 07/17/2014 8:00:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: ThomasMore

If the Democrats are going to disregard the 2nd Amendment to ban arms, then the arms owners should have the right to disregard the First Amendment and ban the Democrats who ban arms in defiance of the Constitution. Turnabout is fairplay, unless you are a so-called Liberal Democrat, of course.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If Rauner was smart he would run against Quinn on “they are trying to take away your guns. . .your security” and on the diseases and wave of crimes coming into Illinois by the illegals.


30 posted on 07/17/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Maudeen

PS How would you like to live in Chicago without a firearm?


31 posted on 07/17/2014 8:05:01 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: MrB

“99% of Chicago’s problems could be solved with one simple societal change:
Women, require men to marry you before getting sex.”

But that won’t solve the problem because the men will “marry” a dozen or more women if that’s what it takes to continue to procreate all over town. And it won’t make them provide for their offspring either. The only “real answer” is castration.


32 posted on 07/17/2014 8:07:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: armydawg505

If the folks doing the shooting on the South Side actually HAD those kind of weapons, they would be RUNNING the city - not just the South Side.


33 posted on 07/17/2014 8:11:55 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: MrB
99% of Chicago’s problems could be solved with one simple societal change: Women, require men to marry you before getting sex.

Simpler: "Women, if you have a child out of wedlock, then you will get zero money from government. Get married to a man with a decent job, go to work yourself, or starve. Those are your choices."

34 posted on 07/17/2014 8:12:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: armydawg505
Meanwhile: Detroit Police Chief Credits Armed Homeowners with Reducing Crime
35 posted on 07/17/2014 8:14:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Red Badger

Only if you could find responsible people in Chicago.


36 posted on 07/17/2014 8:27:01 AM PDT by Pecos (Kakistocracy - killing the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: PapaBear3625

It is not just in Chicago. . .around this neck of the woods, more babies mean more $$$ from the government even in a two parent home.


37 posted on 07/17/2014 8:27:39 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: PapaBear3625

You left out the local church charity option,
which I would definitely keep in there.

Of course, the pastors would be a lot more diligent about the use of their charity resources,

and just might require some behavioral/spending changes on the party of the petitioner.


38 posted on 07/17/2014 8:29:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505

Well of course he does. Leaders will do anything to try to blame gun violence on anything or anyone other than Black inner-city kids.

This could be stopped in about a matter of weeks if they truly wanted to stop it.


39 posted on 07/17/2014 8:33:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: vette6387

I don’t think these people actually have a goal of procreating.
They’re not thinking past the big O.


40 posted on 07/17/2014 8:38:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Pecos

Thinning the herd is just one way.....................


41 posted on 07/17/2014 8:50:52 AM PDT by Red Badger ("An armed society is a polite society. " - Robert Heinlein................)
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To: armydawg505

I’m sure most gun homicides in Chicago are 9mm, .40, & .45.
.50s & assault rifles got nothing to do with it.


42 posted on 07/17/2014 9:02:06 AM PDT by wdk535
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To: Snickering Hound
Because everyone knows the weapon of choice for an inner city gang thug is a huge Barrett .50 rifle with a scope.

Packing my Fiddy

Deadly as cancer

Shows I mean biddness

Baggies draggin' like an anchor.

43 posted on 07/17/2014 9:27:22 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: all the best; All

Interesting stats, thanks.

We are always hearing from the leftists how high on the chart the USA is in homicide rates without your rational information which shows the cause of the close to the top rating

Obama doesn’t want United States Constitutional Republic type citizens to be able to defend themselves and our country when the revolution he is bringing on takes place.

Of course his good buddy, unrepentant murdering terrorist Bill Ayers, has stated that 25 million Americans would be a good number to wipe out.

Re the article: Another example of the goal of only the authorities and the criminal having weapons that shoot.

Interesting how the line has continued to be more blurred between the two factions.


44 posted on 07/17/2014 9:56:00 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead---MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: armydawg505
I think the idea is to make all gun owners criminals. Then they can arrest anybody and make it stick.

They also can't be accused of being racist. Nowadays, probably 80% of the murders in the state are in $hitcago - and most of them are by gang-bangers, the vast majority of whom are black.

But, saying that is raciss too. So here we are back to making everybody a criminal so they can't be accused of being raciss.

45 posted on 07/17/2014 10:39:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: MrB
You left out the local church charity option, which I would definitely keep in there. Of course, the pastors would be a lot more diligent about the use of their charity resources, and just might require some behavioral/spending changes on the party of the petitioner.

And hopefully a congregational committee is keeping an eye on how the pastor spends Church money on needy single moms, lest they belatedly discover the Church has been funding the keeping of the pastor's mistresses.

46 posted on 07/17/2014 1:15:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: mlo
Illinois Governor Pat Quinn (D) is supporting statewide "restrictions" on .50 caliber rifles

Personally, I would enjoy watching the attempt of a drive by shooting utilizing a 35 lb. .50 Cal BMG pointed out the window of a stolen sedan. I certainly wouldn't want to be in the back seat tho.........

47 posted on 07/17/2014 1:19:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, you definitely need an accountability policy in place - we’re all sinners.


48 posted on 07/17/2014 1:20:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505
Number of crimes committed with .50 caliber guns = 0
49 posted on 07/17/2014 3:00:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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