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WV: Public Comment Period Open for "Dangerous Wild Animal" List
WV Secretary of State / USARK ^ | 7/2/14 | WV Secretary of State

Posted on 07/17/2014 12:04:12 PM PDT by gieriscm

In lieu of a public hearing, a comment period has been established during which any interested person may send comments concerning these proposed rules. This comment period will end on August 1, 2014 at 12:00 p.m. Only written comments will be accepted and are to be mailed to the following address:

WV Department of Agriculture
1900 Kanawha Boulevard, East
Charleston, WV 25305

(Excerpt) Read more at usark.org ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Government; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: animal; exotic
During the last legislative session in WV, HB4393, the "Dangerous Wild Animals" (DWA) Act, was passed. The law states that anyone who owns a DWA must get an annual permit for it (cost $100), and must obtain a $300,000 liability insurance policy with a $250 deductible to cover the animals.

This law also created a "Dangerous Wild Animals" Board comprised of a member from DNR, DHHS, and Agriculture. The Board is tasked with deciding which animals to include on the DWA list.

The list is out and it's not pretty. As it stands today it includes:
- All turtles and tortoises,
- Many fish, including all catfish species and even aquarium fish like neon tetras,
- Most rodents, including many rat, mouse, hamster, gerbil, rabbit/hare, and guinea pig species, - Many birds,
- Amphibians such as frogs and toads,
- Hedgehogs,
- Sugar Gliders,
- Ferrets,
- Constrictor snakes,
and a host of other species that are commonly kept as pets, all of which are at the link I posted.

If you are on Facebook there are sample letters and the common names for the species on the list available on the group "WV_Reptile Watch", as most people don't know the scientific names for their pets.

The public comment period ends 7/31. PLEASE send in your comments.

1 posted on 07/17/2014 12:04:12 PM PDT by gieriscm
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To: gieriscm
I'm not positive what species this is, but it certainly should be on the list:


2 posted on 07/17/2014 12:09:26 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want 0bama to make history - First to be IMPEACHED and REMOVED!)
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To: gieriscm
"The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus

There are already so many federal laws that the average person commits three federal felonies a day.

http://www.threefeloniesaday.com/Youtoo/tabid/86/Default.aspx

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

3 posted on 07/17/2014 12:09:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government.” —Tacitus

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What the government doesn’t seem to get is that the more laws you make, the more criminals you create - Arlo Guthrie


4 posted on 07/17/2014 12:12:16 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
"What the government doesn’t seem to get is that the more laws you make, the more criminals you create - Arlo Guthrie

Oh, they get it alright.

5 posted on 07/17/2014 12:14:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Dangerous” Wild Animals.......

Sugar Gliders and turtles...

BWAHAAHAAHAAHAA.....


6 posted on 07/17/2014 12:17:15 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: All

Comes right out of “South Park”

“That rabbit was coming right for me!!!!!”


7 posted on 07/17/2014 12:18:56 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: gieriscm

So a gold fish or a hamster is now a public safety hazard. Glad they have that Meth problem all taken care of.

Nice work WVA.

I would send a nice FU letter with no return address.
Anyone sending in questions will surely be visited by the MRAP goon squad


8 posted on 07/17/2014 12:19:10 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: dmz
What the government doesn’t seem to get is that the more laws you make, the more criminals you create - Arlo Guthrie

Silly Arlo. They get it.

9 posted on 07/17/2014 12:21:01 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus

There are already so many federal laws that the average person commits three federal felonies a day.

And that the only thing it's meant to do, the law will be almost universally ignored, as the current wildlife laws are, I know people locally that have pet raccoons and possums and they have been illegal for ages, but West Virginia is a very rural state and they know their chances of ever getting caught or prosecuted are to the south side of slim and none. It will be the same with this law, even more so, but it gives the state another tool to go after citizens that they want to target, now they fine you because your kid unknowingly happens to have a rare breed of guinea pig or a neon tetra in the fish tank....

10 posted on 07/17/2014 12:21:20 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Boonie
“Dangerous” Wild Animals.......

Sugar Gliders and turtles...

BWAHAAHAAHAAHAA.....

I know I often wake in a cold sweat worrying about wild guinea pigs breaking out of their cages and running rampant.....

11 posted on 07/17/2014 12:23:35 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

“They’ve got bloody great fangs!”


12 posted on 07/17/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: apillar

*ROFL*


13 posted on 07/17/2014 12:41:10 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: DanielRedfoot

Actually goldfish managed to avoid the list; I’ve no idea how the DWA Board overlooked them.


14 posted on 07/17/2014 12:45:03 PM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / C2 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: gieriscm

What are you all worried about? Clearly, this is for the safety of all West Virginia residents.

That’s why they included:

All species of turtles
Chinese Mystery Snails
New Zealand Mud Snails
Zebra Mussels
Gobies
Hedgehogs
Whales
Dolphins
Manatees
Salamanders

I can’t imagine what would happen if a rabid zebra mussel went berserk and started terrorizing the countryside.


15 posted on 07/17/2014 12:47:56 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I remember when a blue whale got loose in Sutton Lake once. It sank three houseboats before they could get it tied up.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 12:50:59 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Paine in the Neck

It was from a bootleg concert a good while back. Arlo may actually have attributed the sentiment to Woody, been a while since I give it a listen.


17 posted on 07/17/2014 12:51:27 PM PDT by dmz
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To: FLAMING DEATH
I can’t imagine what would happen if a rabid zebra mussel went berserk and started terrorizing the countryside.

They might not terrorize, but they sure cause havoc when put in the wrong place. We have major problems in North Texas lakes because of them.

18 posted on 07/17/2014 1:01:13 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Primates: All non-human primates prohibited

I could have so much fun with that

but I’m concerned that all camelidea species are being classed as “dangerous animals.” $100 a head for each alpaca or llama is half the value of the animal, is it annual? And to cage a pushme-pullyou? criminal!


19 posted on 07/17/2014 1:13:59 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I believe it is the species ‘TerribleCommieMarxistus’ native to college campi.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 1:28:25 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I ai-pprove this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: blueplum
I’m concerned that all camelidea species are being classed as “dangerous animals.” $100 a head for each alpaca or llama is half the value of the animal, is it annual?

I believe that alpacas and llamas are exempted as livestock.

Yes the $100 permit fee is annual. Permits are not shall-issue based on any standard defined in the law; the DWA Board has discretion on who can be issued a permit. Also, permits are only issued for grandfathered animals, that is, the ones that were owned once the legislature adopts the list. You can't purchase or breed new DWA's and apply for permits for them.

The insurance mandated by the law is a killer also. One woman was quoted a $705 annual premium to cover her two sugar gliders.

21 posted on 07/17/2014 2:33:22 PM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / C2 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: gieriscm

Is the Jabberwock on the list?


22 posted on 07/21/2014 1:50:36 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: gieriscm

Also, jackalopes are incredibly dangerous; yet I do not see them on the list.


23 posted on 07/21/2014 1:52:50 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Boonie

24 posted on 07/21/2014 1:55:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Hey, now. This is serious business. Anyone who’s ever witnessed the raw, unchecked violence of a stampeding herd of tortoises would NOT be making such jokes.


25 posted on 07/21/2014 1:56:10 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Boonie

I *warned* you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you *knew*, didn't you? Oh, it's just a harmless little *bunny*, isn't it?

26 posted on 07/21/2014 1:58:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: gieriscm
If you're against this law, it's because you support the tea party's war on women


27 posted on 07/21/2014 2:03:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Boonie
Hey a tortoise bit my sister once. They can become agressive it you take them into the shower.
28 posted on 07/22/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: gieriscm

They need to add pit bulls to that dangerous animal list. And democrats.


29 posted on 07/24/2014 8:41:09 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: gieriscm

Gerbils? Someone on staff either believes urban legends or tried it out themselves.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 10:40:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: gieriscm

Gerbils? Someone on staff either believes urban legends or tried it out themselves.


31 posted on 08/01/2014 10:40:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: gieriscm

I don’t think I’m on this list.

http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/07/MM8117_140710_36969.jpg


32 posted on 08/01/2014 2:59:03 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Boonie

Remember Jimmy Carter’s man eating rabbit attack?


33 posted on 08/07/2014 8:53:43 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: gieriscm

bump


34 posted on 08/07/2014 8:55:55 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: gieriscm

I was chased by an assault tortoise last week. I almost had to walk fast in order to escape.


35 posted on 08/12/2014 1:16:17 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: gieriscm

Gerbils COULD be dangerous - if you’re Richard Gere...


36 posted on 08/12/2014 1:18:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: apillar

The way things are supposed to work in an honest system is that when it becomes apparent that a crime has been committed law enforcement people seek out the criminal who commited it. In a DIShonest system which is the type we now have, it is more likely that a person will attract the wrong kind of attention because of something he did or said that some person in law enforcement does not like and then his every move will be scrutinized until he does something to justify his being arrested and imprisoned. With so many laws that no one can possibly be aware of all of them it doesn’t take long to find a reason to arrest a person. Attorneys have to specialize because the law is far too complicated for someone who makes a career of knowing the law to possibly be competent except in one small subdivision of the law. What chance do the rest of us have?


37 posted on 08/30/2014 6:31:18 PM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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