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'I'm Nearby The Place Where The Bodies Started Falling': Chilling Transcript Of Militants
Business Insider ^ | 18 Jul 14 | Paul Colgan

Posted on 07/18/2014 1:08:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

Transcripts of audio intercepted by Ukranian security services in which pro-Russian separatists discuss how they had shot down an airliner paint a chilling picture of what happened on the ground after Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 crashed near the Russian border, killing all 298 people on board, including 27 Australians.

The audio points to the involvement of the rebels, who are believed to have Russian backing, in the crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; ukraine
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Bad news for anti-American/pro-Putinistas.
1 posted on 07/18/2014 1:08:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

My former boss, Congressman Larry McDonald was on Korean Airlines flight 007 which was shot down by the Soviet Union in 1983. There were 269 on board and that aircraft held together for eleven minutes until it hit the water killing all on board.

This recent episode puts another massive crime right in Moscow’s lap.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 1:17:42 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The question is, why in the blazes does one shoot down a passenger plane? Target practice?


3 posted on 07/18/2014 1:19:11 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: elhombrelibre

within a day Obama has FBI in eastern Ukraine but it took months to get them into benghazi


4 posted on 07/18/2014 1:20:19 AM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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To: Monterrosa-24

I recall that. It was terrible. At least then we didn’t have pseudo conservatives making excuses for the Soviets. Now, with a former KGB man trying to reestablish the old Soviet empire, we end up with too many people who are more pro-Putin than pro-American. May Congressman Larry McDonald, a fine conservative in the old school sense (not the crank new age pro-putin one) rest in peace.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 1:20:41 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: jonrick46

a plane at 34K feet it would be hard to establish if it was commercial or military.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 1:38:34 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: jonrick46

They made a major f up...they thought it was a cargo plane.

Occam’s razor.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 1:41:13 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: elhombrelibre

...we do have to consider the source of these materials.

Right now, I don’t know if ANY side is trustworthy.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 1:58:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Crim

That seems to make a lot of sense to me—whoever shot it down.

Ukraine is not the place you want to fly over.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 2:00:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Not anymore. See this link. It's Putin's thugs trying to figure out what happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw

10 posted on 07/18/2014 2:18:39 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Thanks.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 2:21:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Crim; jonrick46

The day before they’d shot down a Ukrainian military cargo plane. They had the bit in their mouth, and were heady with power.


12 posted on 07/18/2014 3:00:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: elhombrelibre

Putin seems pretty conservative to me. I don’t think the problems with Russian are liberal/conservative in nature.


13 posted on 07/18/2014 3:08:34 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: jonrick46

“The question is, why in the blazes does one shoot down a passenger plane? Target practice?”

The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize. There is (usually) no military reason to shoot at a civilian target. But this exercise may be to disrupt civil life in an effort to get civilians to work on their government to end the conflict. On the other hand, in World War 1 a problem with using messenger pigeons was the troops got bored and shot at them. (Or, shot them for food.) It may be that the guys on the ground got bored and decided to use one of their excess shoulder rockets.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 3:15:57 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: The Duke

If you think conservatism means one church aligned with Putin imposing its doctrines on all others, if you think conservatism means Putin picks who can get rich, if you think conservatism means the reestablishment of soviet style hegemony over Russia’s neighbors, if you think that conservatism means Putin wins all elections, if you think conservatism means the rule of law doesn’t apply to Putin, if you think that conservatism means gangsters can kill opponents (especially in the press) for Putin, if you think conservatism means no free press, then, I guess your view of what is and isn’t conservatism is vastly different than what was traditionally believed to be conservatism.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 3:16:40 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“hey lets shoot at another plane....what’s the worst that could happen?”

*civilian airliner hit my missile*

“OMFG we screwed up”


16 posted on 07/18/2014 3:19:12 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: elhombrelibre

So what do you want to do about it? Lob a few nukes at Russia?


17 posted on 07/18/2014 3:20:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: The Duke

No...he isn’t a conservative.....he is a soviet.....

Confuse the two again and I will smack you with a herring.


18 posted on 07/18/2014 3:21:09 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Timber Rattler

No...send them Sandra fluke.


19 posted on 07/18/2014 3:21:55 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Monterrosa-24

The huge difference is that Pres. Reagan canceled his CA vacation and went back to Washington after the Korean shoot down, giving one of his most memorable speeches to the nation. Now, we have a dunce as president who gives this shoot down 40 seconds at a mediocre photo op and goes on telling jokes. It makes all the difference in the world.

And we, the American people still haven’t been told how many Americans died yesterday, when all the other countries have released information about their citizens. Is our NSA too busy spying on a grandmother’s cell phone calls in Omaha to report on what happened? Or is this information being embargoed so it doesn’t look so bad to have the president fundraising instead of taking care of business?


20 posted on 07/18/2014 3:24:27 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jonrick46

Outside of the special forces, the Russian military is poorly trained, poorly motivated and frequently drunk.

Oh yeah - and they are driving around with mobile SAM units with no command and control structure capable of shooting an aircraft out of the sky at 70,000 feet .

What could go wrong?


21 posted on 07/18/2014 3:59:24 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Obama will ensure the invasion on the southern border continues.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 4:00:06 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Timber Rattler

There are options besides going nuclear, but judging by your attempts to trivialize this mass murder, I won’t waste time trying to explain them to you.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 4:03:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: txrefugee

I am tempted to assume there were American dead, given they haven’t said there weren’t. It is very unusual to not have the info yet, unless they are covering it up until Valerie Jarrett decides what to do.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 4:05:57 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

Just what is the breakout of nationalities on that doomed flight? In addition to Malaysians, we know about Americans, Australians, and Dutch among the dead.

Is this information being withheld to contain international outrage?


25 posted on 07/18/2014 4:44:36 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: PghBaldy

Just what is the breakout of nationalities on that doomed flight? In addition to Malaysians, we know about Americans, Australians, and Dutch among the dead.

Is this information being withheld to contain international outrage?


26 posted on 07/18/2014 4:45:11 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: jonrick46
The answer is simple: those pro-Russian separatists who got their hands on the 9K37 Buk battlefield SAM system thought they were launching the missile at another Ukrainian AF An-26 military transport, but unfortunately ended up shooting down a commercial jet airliner instead.

We forget the current version of the 9K37 SAM system uses a missile that is actually more capable than the old S-75 Dvina (NATO code name SA-2 Guideline) system. As such, the 9K37 system is easily capable of shooting down a jet airliner flying at 10,000 meters (32,800 feet) altitude.

27 posted on 07/18/2014 4:50:46 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: elcid1970
From the Daily Mail, UK: Note how no Americans are identified. Word is Obama isn't allowing that information to go out because he was too busy fundraising at rich democrats houses last night, and didn't want this to interfere with the potential optics of doing nothing.

THE NATIONALITIES ON BOARD MH17

With the nationalities of 20 passengers still to be determined, this is the breakdown of people on board so far:
Netherlands: 173
Malaysia: 44
Australia: 27
Indonesia: 12
UK: 9
Germany: 4
Belgium: 4
Philippines: 3
Canada: 1
New Zealand: 1


28 posted on 07/18/2014 5:03:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: jonrick46

Error..... they thought it was a war plane


29 posted on 07/18/2014 5:06:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. NEgypt.C. GOPc.+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: elhombrelibre

Probably not a great idea to fly over war zones where planes are being shot down either.


30 posted on 07/18/2014 5:09:54 AM PDT by BobL
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To: elhombrelibre

Mean while,..... Obama laughs.


31 posted on 07/18/2014 5:16:18 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: jonrick46

Nobody can see what kind of plane is at 34k feet. Get real.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 5:18:16 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: elhombrelibre

Nothing will come of this. Obama will declare a do over and get back to fund raising.


33 posted on 07/18/2014 5:19:13 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Alas Babylon!

You would think that American passengers would be the EASIEST to identify on an international flight manifest, wouldn’t you?

The amorality of the Obama regime continues to both amaze and disgust me.


34 posted on 07/18/2014 5:51:57 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Who exactly would be “holding it to contain international outrage?” The Dutch and Malaysians are the ones who have the passenger manifests. They are the primary victims. Why would they want to contain international outrage?


35 posted on 07/18/2014 6:05:44 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: elhombrelibre
There are options besides going nuclear,

And those are...?


36 posted on 07/18/2014 6:22:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

I learned about Russia’s size by watching this...

What Fits Into Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXqKkYYALMU


37 posted on 07/18/2014 6:25:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gen.Blather
It may be that the guys on the ground got bored and decided to use one of their excess shoulder rockets.

Shoulder-fired rockets don't reach to 30K feet. The current thought is that it was a radar-guided rocket fired from a vehicle. At 30K, it probably takes a trained radar operator to distinguish between an airliner and a military transport, and it's unlikely the rebel operator was well trained.

38 posted on 07/18/2014 6:29:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: elhombrelibre
...and where was Obama...on a fundraiser...not on TV assuring the citizens of the USA that our government is on top of things. On the other hand, you have Reagan's handling of Korean Airlines Flight 007.

Reagan

...and this is ODUMBO NERO


39 posted on 07/18/2014 6:37:38 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: bigdaddy45

Where are the names of the twenty “unknown” passengers, and why do we suspect that they were Americans?

Dumb question: Don’t international passengers have to show their passports to be allowed to board, and doesn’t this information go on the final manifest?

So that in the wake of a terrorist incident the destination country isn’t screaming at the airline, “Why did you let this person on the plane!!?”


40 posted on 07/18/2014 7:22:07 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Alas Babylon!

I have my answer why no American names are not going out. If any Americans are on, it could very well be thought of as an act of war.


41 posted on 07/18/2014 8:11:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: elcid1970

Tell you what... its been 24 hours. Take a few deep breaths. Sheeesh. EVERYTHING is not a conspiracy.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: elhombrelibre
Well, probably my personal definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal' are unique to me. For me a conservative is someone who is inclined to preserve the system as it is, while a liberal is someone is inclined to change the system.

By that definition Putin would be a conservative I would think.

43 posted on 07/18/2014 9:04:25 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Timber Rattler

Yeah. Lets lob some nukes. What a wonderful idea. That will fix so many problems.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 9:13:47 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Monterrosa-24

Eleven minutes! That’s a long time to be in total fear.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 9:15:33 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: The Duke

Then, you would think Castro is a conservative. I see a conservative in the tradition of the great minds on the right, like Edmund Burke, for example.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 10:29:52 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: The Duke
Conservatives are patriotic. Americans who support Putin are by definition not conservative because they support America's anti-American enemy, and are therefore, not patriotic.
47 posted on 07/18/2014 10:51:55 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Biggirl

If there were Americans, wouldn’t family members be coming forward?


48 posted on 07/18/2014 10:53:34 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: bigdaddy45

‘’Lob a few nukes at Russia.

Either that or get off our ass and get 200,000

UN/US/UK/NATO/FR/GER guys in

there and send russians home, seal the border, hold a

referendum. and when they vote to stay in UKraine

it is done, and putler can go f— himself...

Or we can send the many hundreds of our armored warthogs,

we are destroying, along with their volunteer’’tourists’’

and blast the russians out......


49 posted on 07/18/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

You signing up? Since you’re so ready to send our guys over there? Or is this just armchair ranting?


50 posted on 07/18/2014 12:09:32 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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